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Poor boat handling, don't play with speed.

Posted By: perchjerker

Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/18/17 02:46 PM

Dumb Jerk ! Watch all of it. It shows ejection in slo mo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UEETjztLqI
Posted By: abolt300

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/18/17 02:59 PM

Dumb SOB taking that wake without trimming down. Cant fix stupid.
Posted By: Drake322

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/18/17 03:38 PM

That's called a dumb ass hitting a roller. AGREE. Cant fix stupid.
Posted By: Geno

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/18/17 03:59 PM

Natural selection thwarted by technology yet again. Rats.

People do this nonsense at night with no spotlight. Not that a spotlight would help much at 70 but at least you'd get a glimpse of what killed you....or what you killed.
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/18/17 04:02 PM

what a fkn idiot, that boat was out of control long before it hit the roller.
Posted By: Shaneomac2

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/18/17 04:12 PM

why was he knocked out in the water for 10 minutes with a person in the boat in front of him filming? shuks
Posted By: perchjerker

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/18/17 04:54 PM

That boat was a chine walking POS anyway.
Posted By: abolt300

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/18/17 05:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Shaneomac2
why was he knocked out in the water for 10 minutes with a person in the boat in front of him filming? shuks


Probably cause the guys in the camera boat looked at each other and said, "let's let him lay there and maybe he will flip over face down and drown and we wont have to worry anymore about that freaking dumb azz idiot that doesnt know how to drive a boat."
Posted By: Gobl4me

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/18/17 07:30 PM

play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Posted By: Hevishot13

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/18/17 10:09 PM

Originally Posted By: perchjerker
That boat was a chine walking POS anyway.
that's cause the dumb ass can't drive it

Hard to tell but I believe it's an Allison. Not sure cause it kind of resembles a hydrasport super v. But if it's an Allison there ain't many people that I know can't drive that boat the way that boat is designed to be driven. You have to drive an Allison, ain't nothing about what he's doing considered driving.
Posted By: Beadlescomb

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/18/17 10:22 PM


Originally Posted By: Hevishot13
Originally Posted By: perchjerker
That boat was a chine walking POS anyway.
that's cause the dumb ass can't drive it

Hard to tell but I believe it's an Allison. Not sure cause it kind of resembles a hydrasport super v. But if it's an Allison there ain't many people that I know can't drive that boat the way that boat is designed to be driven. You have to drive an Allison, ain't nothing about what he's doing considered driving.



i paused it and i think its a legend dominator
Posted By: Beadlescomb

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/18/17 10:23 PM

or a gambler intimidator
Posted By: hayman

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/18/17 11:04 PM

I don't think it is a Allison.
Posted By: perchjerker

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/18/17 11:10 PM

HEVI, I thought you were supposed to know Boats???? It isn't any kind of HydraSport. They ALL had a lightning bolt on the side. It may be some sort of Allison, but I don't think so. I can't remember a boat marked like that. probably one built out West.
There are regional boats Like the Big O in Fl.
Posted By: hayman

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/18/17 11:15 PM

Originally Posted By: perchjerker
HEVI, I thought you were supposed to know Boats???? It isn't any kind of HydraSport. They ALL had a lightning bolt on the side. It may be some sort of Allison, but I don't think so. I can't remember a boat marked like that. probably one built out West.
There are regional boats Like the Big O in Fl.


I can't believe you posted this video without knowing the serial number and the owner of the boat. laugh
Posted By: hunterbuck

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/19/17 06:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Beadlescomb

Originally Posted By: Hevishot13
Originally Posted By: perchjerker
That boat was a chine walking POS anyway.
that's cause the dumb ass can't drive it

Hard to tell but I believe it's an Allison. Not sure cause it kind of resembles a hydrasport super v. But if it's an Allison there ain't many people that I know can't drive that boat the way that boat is designed to be driven. You have to drive an Allison, ain't nothing about what he's doing considered driving.



i paused it and i think its a legend dominator


I can't remember what kind of boat it is, but that sounds right. Definitely NOT an Allison or Gambler. I do know he was running a 225 ProMax on it.

I met this guy about 3 or 4 years ago. He came to a buddy of mine's house to buy a 260 Mercury from him, to put on this same boat. The deal was pretty much made, when he started talking about this incident, and admitted that it was him in the video. My buddy pulled me over to the side and asked me if I would be comfortable with selling him the motor, and I said "hell no". He told the guy he couldn't sell him the motor.

Dude was actually a nice guy, from somewhere over in Mississippi, if I remember correctly. He just had no business trying to run a boat like that...and apparently hadn't learned his lesson.
Posted By: Gotcha1

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/19/17 06:50 AM

I was fishing topwater about 20 yds. from this and just out of the picture. Had to be him. Nobody else would drive like a maniac, would they?lol
Posted By: Drake322

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/19/17 07:01 AM

The video has been out for a while. I first saw it on BBC. I believe the boat is a Legend. Not an Allison. I have been around and in many Allisons. They do not like a lot of trim and that is what get ppl in trouble driving these boats. I had one well over 80 couple years ago with little driving effort. Disclaimer though, you can over drive them like most do.
Posted By: klay

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/19/17 09:46 AM

Definetly a legend. Old company, not the good new ones. They were built in Alabama. Link to one: https://www.louisianasportsman.com/lpca/...d&id=350293
Posted By: Shaneomac2

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/19/17 11:15 AM

Originally Posted By: abolt300
Originally Posted By: Shaneomac2
why was he knocked out in the water for 10 minutes with a person in the boat in front of him filming? shuks


Probably cause the guys in the camera boat looked at each other and said, "let's let him lay there and maybe he will flip over face down and drown and we wont have to worry anymore about that freaking dumb azz idiot that doesnt know how to drive a boat."


lmfao
Posted By: Shaneomac2

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/19/17 11:15 AM

Originally Posted By: perchjerker
HEVI, I thought you were supposed to know Boats???? It isn't any kind of HydraSport. They ALL had a lightning bolt on the side. It may be some sort of Allison, but I don't think so. I can't remember a boat marked like that. probably one built out West.
There are regional boats Like the Big O in Fl.


looked like a triton to me
Posted By: perchjerker

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/19/17 11:18 AM

That's what I thought too. Tritons are bad about chine walking. Drive a boat? Who the hell wants a boat you have to fight? I prefer one you can be going WOT and take your hands off the wheel without it flipping.
Posted By: Drake322

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/19/17 12:02 PM

Originally Posted By: perchjerker
That's what I thought too. Tritons are bad about chine walking. Drive a boat? Who the hell wants a boat you have to fight? I prefer one you can be going WOT and take your hands off the wheel without it flipping.


There is only one you can do that with, STROKER.
Posted By: hunterbuck

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/19/17 12:37 PM

Drake...do you know Terry Gibbs from up in your neighborhood? Big Allison guy. I've sold him some parts in the past.
Posted By: perchjerker

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/19/17 01:11 PM

Do they still make Stroker?
Posted By: Drake322

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/19/17 02:07 PM

Originally Posted By: hunterbuck
Drake...do you know Terry Gibbs from up in your neighborhood? Big Allison guy. I've sold him some parts in the past.


Who don't know Ratchet. LOL.
Posted By: Shaneomac2

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/19/17 02:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Drake322
Originally Posted By: perchjerker
That's what I thought too. Tritons are bad about chine walking. Drive a boat? Who the hell wants a boat you have to fight? I prefer one you can be going WOT and take your hands off the wheel without it flipping.


There is only one you can do that with, champion.

fixed it for ya!
Posted By: perchjerker

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/19/17 02:28 PM

Champions owned Texas for a while, safe, fast , dependable. Then that wanker that bought Ranger bought them too. Another great boat gone. Irwin Jacobs. The Soros of the bass boat world.
Posted By: abolt300

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/19/17 03:11 PM

Originally Posted By: perchjerker
Champions owned Texas for a while, safe, fast , dependable. Then that wanker that bought Ranger bought them too. Another great boat gone. Irwin Jacobs. The Soros of the bass boat world.


"Soros of the boat world" that's a classic right there rofl
Posted By: hunterbuck

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/19/17 05:08 PM

Originally Posted By: perchjerker
Do they still make Stroker?


I'm pretty sure Chub's still making them. Those big wide bodies will scream with BIG horsepower on them.
Posted By: hunterbuck

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/19/17 05:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Drake322
Originally Posted By: hunterbuck
Drake...do you know Terry Gibbs from up in your neighborhood? Big Allison guy. I've sold him some parts in the past.


Who don't know Ratchet. LOL.


He's a bit of a character. grin
Posted By: Hevishot13

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/19/17 06:52 PM

May be a legend, never seen an older one. I've only worked on one that patt Kelly owned and it was a super piece of crap. It doesnt really resemble an Allison but on the other hand, doesn't resemble anything to me really, that's why I said Allison. But it damn sure ain't no triton. And Norris craft is what I was trying to think of, not hydrasport.

Merc pro sport 260hp is the engine yes. We sold Wilson loyd an Allison with a pro sport on it one time. We never even cranked the engine before pulling the powerhead to change the port timing, and several other things. After the mods, that boat would run as fast as a person could drive it. We did 106mph in it with two people, a full tank of gas, 3 batteries and a 24 volt trolling motor, as well as the boat full of rods and tackle.

My old boss used to race a light weight Allison hull he had darris make for him. I can't remember exact weight, something like 700ish pounds. The boat had a Johnson gt200 on it, sitting on a 15" midsection with a v8 gt300 trim unit. That boat would fly. He has the pictures of it hanging on his wall in his office.
Posted By: CarbonClimber1

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/20/17 12:19 AM

Idk on that boat but it looks like an old legend. That there is whatchy call an alien cowel prowmax from i think around 1999. im sure the feller in the video did what bout everbody else did.. He screwd with it. Them old motors came from the factory basically a racin motor an you could mess withem some kinda way..vapor paths maybe somethin to do with the intake,not rememberin off hand but you could doit yourself an ad bout an extra 40hp to an already powerful motor kinda like turnin the fuel up on a 12 valve..weather its a 2.5 or a 3.2 idk but all them old motors would absolutely scream aaand that aint countin the folks that bored the motor over. Seems like the popular combo back in the day was a 20xd bullet an a 3.2L 300hp. I know thats where i saw my first one was pushin a bee colored bullet an he had to be doin a hundred miles an hour. Looked like you jumped on a mustard bottle with both feet.
Posted By: Drake322

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/20/17 06:55 AM

Originally Posted By: hunterbuck
Originally Posted By: perchjerker
Do they still make Stroker?


I'm pretty sure Chub's still making them. Those big wide bodies will scream with BIG horsepower on them.


Yes he is but there is one hell of a waiting list. He has the old hydrostream molds also from what I have read.
Posted By: hunterbuck

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/20/17 08:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Drake322
Originally Posted By: hunterbuck
Originally Posted By: perchjerker
Do they still make Stroker?


I'm pretty sure Chub's still making them. Those big wide bodies will scream with BIG horsepower on them.


Yes he is but there is one hell of a waiting list. He has the old hydrostream molds also from what I have read.


I think the only Hydrostream molds Chub has are the Venom molds. Beautiful boat that will haul the mail, but not very useful except for riding or racing.
Posted By: R_H_Clark

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/20/17 02:49 PM

A perfect example of why 90% of people don't need to own a boat with more than a 20 hp motor.
Posted By: bloodtrail

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/20/17 03:28 PM

Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
A perfect example of why 90% of people don't need to own a boat with more than a 20 hp motor.


Agree! People shouldn't own any gun capable of holding more than 1 bullet either! Single shots are all that's needed for hunting or target shooting.
Posted By: gman

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/20/17 03:39 PM

Originally Posted By: bloodtrail
Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
A perfect example of why 90% of people don't need to own a boat with more than a 20 hp motor.


Agree! People shouldn't own any gun capable of holding more than 1 bullet either! Single shots are all that's needed for hunting or target shooting.

Maybe you shouldn't...I on the other hand, should.
Posted By: !shiloh!

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/20/17 03:39 PM


Originally Posted By: bloodtrail
Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
A perfect example of why 90% of people don't need to own a boat with more than a 20 hp motor.


Agree! People shouldn't own any gun capable of holding more than 1 bullet either! Single shots are all that's needed for hunting or target shooting.

lol great point. We should all be running around like Barney fife
Posted By: bloodtrail

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/20/17 03:49 PM

Originally Posted By: gman
Originally Posted By: bloodtrail
Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
A perfect example of why 90% of people don't need to own a boat with more than a 20 hp motor.


Agree! People shouldn't own any gun capable of holding more than 1 bullet either! Single shots are all that's needed for hunting or target shooting.

Maybe you shouldn't...I on the other hand, should.


The gun is a metaphor. I'll keep my dangerous bass boats and high capacity magazines.
Posted By: R_H_Clark

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/22/17 04:27 PM

Originally Posted By: bloodtrail
Originally Posted By: gman
Originally Posted By: bloodtrail
Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
A perfect example of why 90% of people don't need to own a boat with more than a 20 hp motor.


Agree! People shouldn't own any gun capable of holding more than 1 bullet either! Single shots are all that's needed for hunting or target shooting.

Maybe you shouldn't...I on the other hand, should.


The gun is a metaphor. I'll keep my dangerous bass boats and high capacity magazines.


Maybe you're a 10%er. Seriously though,I wouldn't turn my inexperienced kid loose with an AR-15, yet it seems that the same equivalent is happening with watercraft. I don't want to ban anything but there has to be better answer than just letting idiots run till they kill themselves or someone else.
Posted By: bloodtrail

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/22/17 04:50 PM

I can agree with that. MOST folks either do not know the rules of the water or refuse to follow them. Being able to travel 40-50mph allows me to run 10-15miles to a marina for drinks, snacks, or gas and not use all of my fishing time. It also allows me to fish the river section or the deep lake section of a reservoir. If the lower end is full of wake boats I'll run 15-25 north to get away. Not everyone wants to fish within 1-2mi of the ramp, that's all you can do with a 20hp motor.

Interstates and major roadways are the real dangers.
Posted By: perchjerker

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/22/17 05:02 PM

I always looked at the ability to run from a lightning storm. I usually trailer to an area I'm going to fish if possible. It's cheaper and quicker in many cases.
Posted By: Beadlescomb

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/22/17 05:07 PM

i just wanna go fast
Posted By: R_H_Clark

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/22/17 05:46 PM

Originally Posted By: bloodtrail
I can agree with that. MOST folks either do not know the rules of the water or refuse to follow them. Being able to travel 40-50mph allows me to run 10-15miles to a marina for drinks, snacks, or gas and not use all of my fishing time. It also allows me to fish the river section or the deep lake section of a reservoir. If the lower end is full of wake boats I'll run 15-25 north to get away. Not everyone wants to fish within 1-2mi of the ramp, that's all you can do with a 20hp motor.

Interstates and major roadways are the real dangers.


I think you can do a little better than 1-2 miles with a 20hp.I used one for a lot of years and did better than 2 miles just paddling.

I understand your point and I have no problem with anyone who knows how to drive safely. I don't care if you get up some speed on a big open area. On the other hand we have a little lake up here just a few miles long,6-8 would be my guess if you don't count the very shallow feeder creeks. it's about 50-90 yards wide most places and very curvy and winding. There's guys running their 250 hp bass boats wide open around those curves all the time,like they think it's the Indy 500. There's just no sense in it when you could get to the same place at a safe speed just 3 minuets later.
Posted By: Avengedsevenfold

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/22/17 06:39 PM

Where you talking about R.H.?
Posted By: Jakethesnake

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/31/17 11:07 PM

He had no control of it in the video before the wreck seen.. Im surprised he lived. That was crazy. I thought they were made to fish in? Didnt know bass swam that fast dang
Posted By: 257wbymag

Re: Poor boat handling, don't play with speed. - 07/31/17 11:24 PM

Damn a bunch of fishing. Sucks anyway.
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