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Baiting for hogs??

Posted By: ford150man

Baiting for hogs?? - 11/08/11 07:35 PM

It may be a dumb question but I couldn't find an answer on line. Is it legal to hunt over bait (corn or whatever) for hogs?
Posted By: Chiefdog

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/08/11 07:41 PM

If you have a permit
Posted By: Albin

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/08/11 11:37 PM

My understanding is that the only thing you can hunt over is plain salt. You can't even use salt in the NF or WMAs.

go to outdoorsalabama.com and read the regs.
Posted By: Hogwild

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/09/11 02:14 AM

No, you cannot hunt hogs over bait.

UNLESS, you have a permit from the local GW......and they will ONLY write them during the times when there is NO other hunting season in.
Posted By: ElkHunter

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/09/11 12:34 PM

Hogwild is correct, you can only get a permit outside of turkey and deer season.

If you can get a permit, baiting them is a great way to pattern and hunt them.

If you get one and need some advice getting set up, give me a call, I will be glad to help! LOL
Posted By: SwampHunter

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/14/11 11:00 PM

Is this not a stupid law? You can bait them in a trap and shoot them in a trap, but you can't just put out the corn, or feeder, and shoot them there. Why not allow the hunting of hogs over bait, without a permit, outside of deer and turkey seasons? Any reason not to request this law be changed? I got a permit for it myself, but the standard permit also gives me the right to shoot deer and hogs at night. That was more than I needed and a waste of the game warden's time in having to do the paperwork anyway.
Posted By: Hogwild

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/15/11 01:14 AM

ABSOLUTELY!!!

Technically, by the Regulations in place now......if I get invited to a property to catch hogs that are eating up expensive deer feed and turn my dogs loose in the 'area' of the feed......I am hunting with the aid of bait and breaking the Law.

How stupid is that????
Posted By: SwampHunter

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/15/11 02:04 PM

Hogwild, it makes no sense at all. I am going to work on this through the advisory board and see what we can get in motion to change this. I know two of the guys and I'll see what we can do.
Posted By: ElkHunter

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/15/11 02:35 PM

It has been interesting to me to attend the CAB meetings and hear the many speakers talk about hog problems. And I continue to hear that hunting won't have an impact on the population explosion. Yet, nothing really seems to be getting done. I do know that doing nothing will not stop the hogs.

Dead hogs to not reproduce.
Posted By: Moose24

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/15/11 09:39 PM

Those jokers are tearing us up. My best green field is now at least 50% destroyed. Where can I buy some portable traps? I guess if I was to bait the trap with corn, I don't want to be anywhere near it while deer hunting.
Posted By: ElkHunter

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/16/11 01:43 PM

Moose,

If you have a buddy that can weld, I can help you build one.
Posted By: SwampHunter

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/16/11 02:11 PM

I have some designs for one you can build yourself on my website at www.wilcoxwebworks.com/hs Look for the hog trapping page. Has a guillotine door made of wood that works well. Open top so deer can jump out. We have had a lot of trouble catching more deer than hogs in our totally enclosed traps. There is a guy in Camden that sells some very good doors too if you are interested in purchasing one. Call Park Harris at 334-682-4410
Posted By: Moose24

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/16/11 09:52 PM

Thanks for the info. I had already been eyeing the plans on your website. :-)
Posted By: Clem

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/16/11 11:53 PM

So ...

You can legally use bait (hafta get a permit?) in a trap and then kill an animal inside that pen?

But without the trap, you can't use bait and shoot the hogs eating it?
Posted By: coon_killer

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/17/11 01:19 AM

i have one i might sale
Posted By: SwampHunter

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/18/11 06:01 PM

Clem, I don't think you need a permit to trap hogs using bait, then shoot them. But you can't just bait and shoot them. Make no sense. This is something that needs to be changed, for sure. I've got an advisory board member looking into it but this is something that really should be changed by executive order in my opinion.
Posted By: Big Jack

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/19/11 07:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Clem
So ...

You can legally use bait (hafta get a permit?) in a trap and then kill an animal inside that pen?

But without the trap, you can't use bait and shoot the hogs eating it?


You can bait them to a trap(without a permit) even during other hunting seasons but you can not hunt in the area that the baited trap is located.
Posted By: Hogwild

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/20/11 01:46 AM

You are right!

My Father-in-Law got a ticket in Monroe County several years ago for that.

He was invited to hunt a place with some friends and they put him in a nice food plot on Flat Creek. Right before dark, the GW pulled into the patch in his truck, got out and walked up to the house and got him down. There was a baited hog trap in the woods just off the field.....got 3 of them that afternoon and the tickets stuck......
Posted By: Out back

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/20/11 04:24 AM

That's a good design, Swamphunter, but I would replace that trap door with a spring-loaded root door. You can catch multiple hogs with a spring-loaded door.
Posted By: Big Jack

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/23/11 01:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Out back
That's a good design, Swamphunter, but I would replace that trap door with a spring-loaded root door. You can catch multiple hogs with a spring-loaded door.


Either spring loaded or gravity will get um by the multiples. However I caught 7 at one time with a guillotine door like Williams.
Posted By: Out back

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/25/11 12:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Big Jack


Either spring loaded or gravity will get um by the multiples. However I caught 7 at one time with a guillotine door like Williams.


So a pregnant sow got trapped and gave birth to 6 piglets?
Posted By: scrubbuck

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/25/11 01:32 AM

I've caught up to 8 at a time in this trap and it has a gravity door.

Posted By: Big Jack

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/29/11 12:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Out back
Originally Posted By: Big Jack


Either spring loaded or gravity will get um by the multiples. However I caught 7 at one time with a guillotine door like Williams.


So a pregnant sow got trapped and gave birth to 6 piglets?

Not exactly but the trap is only 4X6 and I caught 2 75# shoults in it last night. Put one in the freezer and gave one to a friend in Camden. There is a picture around here someplace of this trailer full in the trap before I killed um. There were two more, one alive, that are not on there yet.
Posted By: Albin

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/29/11 04:21 PM

How do you guys get your hogs out of the trap, shoot them or tie them up?

Here is what I used to design and build my trap: http://wildhoghunters.com/content/section/218-how-build-hog-trap.html

And here's a pic of mine:



More pics here: http://s126.photobucket.com/albums/p111/Albinator/Hog%20Trap/
Posted By: Big Jack

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/29/11 06:43 PM

Thats a neet little rig right there. thumbup But I believe I would want the sides just a little higher. That is if my idea of how it works is right and that is the bottom, as it is shown, is acutally the top and is open.
I usually put a .22 between and just above the eyes or right behind the ear and towards the eye on the other side. But when I do take one out alive, I drop a noose around his neck and pull the rope through the wire near the door. Pull his head up to the wire and reach in and get him by a back leg, pull him out, throw him on his side and tie him up. If its a big un, I get some help and do basically the same thing.
Posted By: Albin

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 11/30/11 02:28 AM

It's right side up, the wheels are easily removable:



It's about 39" high +/-, should be plenty high enough.

thanks,
Posted By: SwampHunter

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 12/02/11 02:17 AM

I can see getting a ticket for deer hunting near a hog trap filled with corn. Catch more deer than hogs usually anyway. But you should be able to bait hogs outside of deer and turkey season. Going to work on getting that changed.
Posted By: Big Jack

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 12/04/11 03:06 PM

Originally Posted By: SwampHunter
I can see getting a ticket for deer hunting near a hog trap filled with corn. Catch more deer than hogs usually anyway. But you should be able to bait hogs outside of deer and turkey season. Going to work on getting that changed.


You can do that now. However, the way I understand it is you gotta have a permit and the local GW will give just about anyone located in your area one without any checking. Also, I don't think you have to have a permitt ot bait them outside of hunting season on your own land. Is that right or wrong?
Posted By: Teacher One

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 12/05/11 11:21 PM

Hope you can work that out for us in North alabama also. We found the first hog this week on our propery dead in some cut over. I have seen the hogs before on property here in Colbert county that I own, but not on the club I am in. There are places we are seeing now that show evidence of hog rooting. I don't want them here at all. Wish we could get rid of them and coyotes also. Just not going to happen any time soon.
Posted By: SwampHunter

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 12/14/11 05:13 PM

I don't see anything in the regs that say you can shoot them over bait at any time. They are a game animal until killed. You can get a permit. Only the landowner can apply for this. A guy paying $15 an acre to lease property can't do it. I think he should be able to.
Posted By: Hogwild

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 12/15/11 02:52 AM

Originally Posted By: SwampHunter
I don't see anything in the regs that say you can shoot them over bait at any time. They are a game animal until killed. You can get a permit. Only the landowner can apply for this.


Jack,

William is right.
As per the Law, as written now, feral hogs are a GAME ANIMAL and cannot be hunted with the aid of bait at any time WITHOUT a specific permit. You cannot even legally turn dogs out at a protein feeder in July to trail up and bay hogs to catch......much less shoot one over a corn pile!
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 12/15/11 04:31 AM

this^^^^^^^
Posted By: Big Jack

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 12/15/11 02:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Hogwild
Originally Posted By: SwampHunter
I don't see anything in the regs that say you can shoot them over bait at any time. They are a game animal until killed. You can get a permit. Only the landowner can apply for this.


Jack,

William is right.
As per the Law, as written now, feral hogs are a GAME ANIMAL and cannot be hunted with the aid of bait at any time WITHOUT a specific permit. You cannot even legally turn dogs out at a protein feeder in July to trail up and bay hogs to catch......much less shoot one over a corn pile!


Dammit boy! That needs fixing for sure.
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 12/20/11 12:12 PM

I just don't understand all the restrictions and hoops ya have to jump thru to hunt hogs over bait or at night. Hog numbers are still increasing.
Posted By: Big Jack

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 12/20/11 01:41 PM

I got four more Saturday morning. According to the cameras they got in the trap at about 4AM. I dressed one for one of my sons, gave one to a couple folks from mobile who hunt in an adjoining hunting club and two to the local dog hunting club.
Posted By: SilentSwineSlayr

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 01/13/12 08:56 PM

It needs to be like Texas, where you can hunt hogs at night, w/ silencers, over bait, year-round etc.
Posted By: coon_killer

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 01/14/12 03:33 AM

they bitch about them tearing the world up, then put all these stupid rules on how you can and cannot huntem. if you own or lease the land you should be able to kill hogs any which way possible.
Posted By: ElkHunter

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 01/16/12 02:33 PM

Originally Posted By: coon_killer
they bitch about them tearing the world up, then put all these stupid rules on how you can and cannot huntem. if you own or lease the land you should be able to kill hogs any which way possible.


X2!
Posted By: SilentSwineSlayr

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 01/16/12 10:27 PM

Originally Posted By: coon_killer
they bitch about them tearing the world up, then put all these stupid rules on how you can and cannot huntem. if you own or lease the land you should be able to kill hogs any which way possible.


+1000
Posted By: tim1980

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 01/16/12 10:29 PM

+2000
Posted By: Out back

Re: Baiting for hogs?? - 01/17/12 01:43 AM

Originally Posted By: coon_killer
they bitch about them tearing the world up, then put all these stupid rules on how you can and cannot huntem. if you own or lease the land you should be able to kill hogs any which way possible.


The truth is, when it comes to hogs and coyotes, the profit is in the propaganda. It's much more lucrative to "study" them than kill them. The dead ones don't sell magazines, increase TV ratings, or secure government funding.
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