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Posted By: Joe4majors

Sawtooths - 08/15/19 09:30 PM

I thought about putting out 2-4 sawtooths this fall/winter. Have y'all had much luck finding them locally? I'll mess around with growing my own at some point, but would like to get a couple going ASAP if possible.
Posted By: jwalker77

Re: Sawtooths - 08/15/19 11:18 PM

If you know anybody who has them, you could probably dig sprouts from under their trees. Ive got a friend who tries to get me to come dig some up every year, id get you some but I believe were a pretty good ways apart.
Posted By: Rmart30

Re: Sawtooths - 08/15/19 11:46 PM

Native nursery is showing them in stock for under $4 https://www.nativnurseries.com/products/sawtooth-oak-seedlings-for-sale-quercus-accutisima
Posted By: Joe4majors

Re: Sawtooths - 08/16/19 01:34 AM

Originally Posted by Rmart30


Looks great, but it turns into $44 when you have to add several trees to get to their minimum order amount and add shipping. $44 isn't terrible though.
Posted By: HHSyelper

Re: Sawtooths - 08/16/19 04:14 PM

Not sure if to far, but I get hundreds sprouted every year. You are welcome to come get some.
Posted By: Turkey

Re: Sawtooths - 08/16/19 05:28 PM

When we moved back to the country 10 years ago, I planted 20 from Nativ nurseries. I'm not sure if it was me learning to take care of trees or what, but I lost about half of them. I replaced the dead, and added more, from The Wildlife Group from near Tallassee and have kept them all. I saw the first acorns at 4 years and about year 6 or 7, all the trees started bearing heavily. The nice thing about The Wildlife Group is they support the hunting industry in Alabama. They are usually at both shows and I've talked with them at QDMA meetings in the state.
Posted By: Mully

Re: Sawtooths - 08/16/19 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Turkey
When we moved back to the country 10 years ago, I planted 20 from Nativ nurseries. I'm not sure if it was me learning to take care of trees or what, but I lost about half of them. I replaced the dead, and added more, from The Wildlife Group from near Tallassee and have kept them all. I saw the first acorns at 4 years and about year 6 or 7, all the trees started bearing heavily. The nice thing about The Wildlife Group is they support the hunting industry in Alabama. They are usually at both shows and I've talked with them at QDMA meetings in the state.


I would go to The Wildlife Group and deal with Allen. He is a big ugly bald headed joker but a good guy and he will take care of you.
Posted By: Nightwatchman

Re: Sawtooths - 08/16/19 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by Joe4majors
I thought about putting out 2-4 sawtooths this fall/winter. Have y'all had much luck finding them locally? I'll mess around with growing my own at some point, but would like to get a couple going ASAP if possible.



Just go find some acorns lying on the ground underneath a tree that is already producing and put them in a 5 gallon bucket with some potting soil
Posted By: Joe4majors

Re: Sawtooths - 08/17/19 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by jwalker77
If you know anybody who has them, you could probably dig sprouts from under their trees. Ive got a friend who tries to get me to come dig some up every year, id get you some but I believe were a pretty good ways apart.


Originally Posted by HHSyelper
Not sure if to far, but I get hundreds sprouted every year. You are welcome to come get some.



Thanks guys. I drive up to Cullman (family) quite often so maybe I could swing by one day. I'll also check the few sawtooths we already have to see if any are sprouting there. I have never noticed any, but maybe haven't looked hard enough.
Posted By: Joe4majors

Re: Sawtooths - 08/17/19 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
Originally Posted by Joe4majors
I thought about putting out 2-4 sawtooths this fall/winter. Have y'all had much luck finding them locally? I'll mess around with growing my own at some point, but would like to get a couple going ASAP if possible.



Just go find some acorns lying on the ground underneath a tree that is already producing and put them in a 5 gallon bucket with some potting soil


I know that can be done, but I'd rather have something that's already a year or two old.
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: Sawtooths - 08/17/19 06:41 PM

a friend of mine may have some for sale, I'll ask him.
Posted By: Joe4majors

Re: Sawtooths - 08/17/19 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by BhamFred
a friend of mine may have some for sale, I'll ask him.


Great, thanks.
Posted By: Teacher One

Re: Sawtooths - 08/17/19 09:15 PM

I just pick up a handful here at the house and mash them in soft dirt on my properties. I have literally thousands of them growing all over Colbert County. Easy as it gets. I usually have a lot of folks every year come by and get some of the acorns to plant.

B
Posted By: HHSyelper

Re: Sawtooths - 08/17/19 10:14 PM

Looks like a good crop this year, I’ll have a bunch of acorns if anyone wants to stop by and get some once they start dropping.
Posted By: Remington270

Re: Sawtooths - 08/18/19 03:01 AM

Don’t they drop really early? The ones I know about are done by Oct 15.
Posted By: Teacher One

Re: Sawtooths - 08/18/19 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Remington270
Don’t they drop really early? The ones I know about are done by Oct 15.


Mine aren't dropping on their own yet, but the storm this week blew a lot on the ground. The ones on the ground have turned brown. Give them another week and the first ones will start dropping.

B
Posted By: Joe4majors

Re: Sawtooths - 08/18/19 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Remington270
Don’t they drop really early? The ones I know about are done by Oct 15.



Yes, that’s one reason this is more of a side project for fun rather than a central focus.
Posted By: ALFisher

Re: Sawtooths - 08/20/19 09:09 PM

No offense, but I wouldn't plant any tree that was not native to the U.S. there are other oaks that grow fast if that's what your are after. Turkey oaks do.
Posted By: demp17

Re: Sawtooths - 08/21/19 01:54 PM

I bought some last year from a nursery somewhere down around Cullman and all of them have survived and have done really well. They were bare root and I think I paid $10 per tree and most were between 8-10ft tall.

Place is called North Alabama Nursery and its in Joppa, had someone from here recommend it.
Posted By: Joe4majors

Re: Sawtooths - 08/21/19 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by demp17
I bought some last year from a nursery somewhere down around Cullman and all of them have survived and have done really well. They were bare root and I think I paid $10 per tree and most were between 8-10ft tall.

Place is called North Alabama Nursery and its in Joppa, had someone from here recommend it.


Something like that would be ideal! Maybe the next time I'm visiting the folks in Cullman I can swing by.
Posted By: Clem

Re: Sawtooths - 08/21/19 04:44 PM



The sawtooth is an invasive species and on many U.S. lists as such.

If someone said deer love cogon or kudzu some folks would plant those. Doesn't make it right, though.

Planting natives is better.
Posted By: Joe4majors

Re: Sawtooths - 08/21/19 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Clem


The sawtooth is an invasive species and on many U.S. lists as such.

If someone said deer love cogon or kudzu some folks would plant those. Doesn't make it right, though.

Planting natives is better.





Corn gets a pass?
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: Sawtooths - 08/21/19 06:23 PM

Joe, my buddy in Coaling will have some for sale in Nov
Posted By: Joe4majors

Re: Sawtooths - 08/21/19 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by BhamFred
Joe, my buddy in Coaling will have some for sale in Nov


Thanks for the update.
Posted By: Clem

Re: Sawtooths - 08/21/19 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Joe4majors
Originally Posted by Clem


The sawtooth is an invasive species and on many U.S. lists as such.

If someone said deer love cogon or kudzu some folks would plant those. Doesn't make it right, though.

Planting natives is better.





Corn gets a pass?




Are sawtooths an accepted agriculture crop commonly traded on the open market worldwide and something that's been here for 500 or so years?
Posted By: Joe4majors

Re: Sawtooths - 08/21/19 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Clem
Originally Posted by Joe4majors
Originally Posted by Clem


The sawtooth is an invasive species and on many U.S. lists as such.

If someone said deer love cogon or kudzu some folks would plant those. Doesn't make it right, though.

Planting natives is better.





Corn gets a pass?




Are sawtooths an accepted agriculture crop commonly traded on the open market worldwide and something that's been here for 500 or so years?



Can you please inform our four 20-year old sawtooth oaks that are half dead from being shaded out that they need to start spreading because their buddies kudzu and cogon are having all the fun?
Posted By: AU338MAG

Re: Sawtooths - 08/22/19 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Clem


The sawtooth is an invasive species and on many U.S. lists as such.

If someone said deer love cogon or kudzu some folks would plant those. Doesn't make it right, though.

Planting natives is better.




I agree with this post.
Posted By: Remington270

Re: Sawtooths - 08/22/19 03:51 PM

I don't have a problem with planting sawtooths, but I've never had a desire for planting any. I think finding naturally occurring persimmon trees and giving them some sunlight is a quicker and more effective way of accomplishing the same thing.
Posted By: Overland

Re: Sawtooths - 08/22/19 06:18 PM

One man's opinion, but I'm not going to plant anything that is non-native. I have spent enough time and money fighting kudzu, privet, cogongrass, climbing fern and mimosa trees that I don't want anything else planted that shouldn't be there. Exception is the annual food plot crops like wheat, oats and soybeans.
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: Sawtooths - 08/23/19 11:41 AM

Sawtooth Oaks fill a void in the acorn crop by dropping earlier than other oaks.
Posted By: Squadron77

Re: Sawtooths - 08/23/19 01:17 PM

Wheat, Oats, Rice,Pears,Peaches, Apples, Chestnuts and even Turnips came from Europe. This is just a small list and I have planted most of them for the wildlife.
Posted By: nomercy

Re: Sawtooths - 08/25/19 05:45 AM

2-4??? Come by my place. You can have 20-40. My wife and kids are starting a tree farm soon to include Sawtooth. That will be about another year, but for now they are still free. You can be a "grass roots" client and tell all of your buddies!!
Posted By: Ramblin99

Re: Sawtooths - 09/30/19 01:24 PM

We planted about 40 sawtooths on our club in Pickens County about 20 years ago. The trees are massive now and produce a ton or mast for the deer. But yes, they drop early and all the mast is gone by October 15th. So although they aren't great to hunt over, they provide a huge amount of food for our deer. We don't regret planting them at all.
Posted By: blumsden

Re: Sawtooths - 09/30/19 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Ramblin99
We planted about 40 sawtooths on our club in Pickens County about 20 years ago. The trees are massive now and produce a ton or mast for the deer. But yes, they drop early and all the mast is gone by October 15th. So although they aren't great to hunt over, they provide a huge amount of food for our deer. We don't regret planting them at all.

I hope you didn't plant tree's on leased land. No way in hell I would do that. I hope it was your land.
Posted By: Wiley Coyote

Re: Sawtooths - 10/06/19 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by demp17
I bought some last year from a nursery somewhere down around Cullman and all of them have survived and have done really well. They were bare root and I think I paid $10 per tree and most were between 8-10ft tall.

Place is called North Alabama Nursery and its in Joppa, had someone from here recommend it.


North Alabama Nursery is a great place to deal with. About 5 years ago I bought 25 Leyland Cypress ($6 each for 5 footers) from them and he threw in 6 just in case I lost a few. That was on a Saturday and they are closed on Saturday but for the amount I was buying he met me and had the trees ready.
Posted By: Rutabaga

Re: Sawtooths - 10/06/19 09:24 PM

https://www.nativnurseries.com/
Posted By: Rutabaga

Re: Sawtooths - 10/06/19 09:32 PM

Sawtooths are the bomb.
Posted By: Tigger85

Re: Sawtooths - 10/07/19 11:46 PM

Our sawtooths are dropping now and are being vacuumed up by the deer
Posted By: Mjh97

Re: Sawtooths - 10/10/19 12:01 AM

Whats the problem with planting sawtooths? I have about 50 we planted in 200
They are huge produce a ton of acorns, deer love them, turkey love them.
I have 60 small ones marked for a friend to come get and plant
On his place later.
Posted By: Mjh97

Re: Sawtooths - 10/10/19 12:02 AM

We planted in 2000 not 200 sorry
Posted By: Rockhound

Re: Sawtooths - 10/10/19 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by Clem


The sawtooth is an invasive species and on many U.S. lists as such.

If someone said deer love cogon or kudzu some folks would plant those. Doesn't make it right, though.

Planting natives is better.






I haven't seen 1 example of a sawtooth outgrowing native vegetation, and I've tried a few times, once they get a canopy over them, they are trash.

Deer do in fact love kudzu lol
Posted By: HHSyelper

Re: Sawtooths - 10/10/19 04:46 PM

I haven't seen any negatives to planting them. I planted in 2000 also and have given several acorns and sprouts away. They produce tons of acorns for wildlife yearly.
Posted By: Rutabaga

Re: Sawtooths - 10/10/19 04:54 PM




I haven't seen 1 example of a sawtooth outgrowing native vegetation, and I've tried a few times, once they get a canopy over them, they are trash.

Deer do in fact love kudzu lol [/quote]

Apparently you are not planting them correctly. I have over 100 planted on my land and they have been producing for years. They are deer magnets.
Posted By: Rockhound

Re: Sawtooths - 10/10/19 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by Rutabaga



I haven't seen 1 example of a sawtooth outgrowing native vegetation, and I've tried a few times, once they get a canopy over them, they are trash.

Deer do in fact love kudzu lol


Apparently you are not planting them correctly. I have over 100 planted on my land and they have been producing for years. They are deer magnets.
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Apparently your reading comprehension is not on point, I bet they aren't planted in the shade.
Posted By: Rutabaga

Re: Sawtooths - 10/11/19 10:20 AM

Of course they are not planted in the shade, maybe that was your problem, ya think.
Posted By: Rockhound

Re: Sawtooths - 10/11/19 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Rutabaga
Of course they are not planted in the shade, maybe that was your problem, ya think.


You completely missed my point, I don't have a problem, I've got a bunch doing fine. The ones I lost were planted on the edge of a fresh clear cut, and I didn't make time to clean around them. Which was the whole point of my post.

Sawtooth cant be to invasive because they cant out compete native vegetation.
Posted By: Rutabaga

Re: Sawtooths - 10/15/19 07:32 PM

My neighbor told me she saw four coyotes eating acorn under my sawtooths. Middle of the day, who would have thunk it.
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