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Herbicides?

Posted By: centralala

Herbicides? - 12/05/17 04:48 PM

I have a corn field that I want to change over to all crimson clover. The field has some briars and morning glory that gly hasn't worked on. I want to nuke this field this summer, multiple times if necessary. Then in the fall plant clover in field. Thinking Crossbow or Grazeon and gly. What other suggestions? What can be sprayed on the clover the following summer for briars and morning glory?
Posted By: Waldo

Re: Herbicides? - 12/05/17 06:45 PM

Gly and Crossbow should kill just about everything.

Clethodim and Butyrac after it is established.

Make sure you read and follow the labels.
Posted By: centralala

Re: Herbicides? - 12/05/17 06:54 PM

Ive had no luck with clethodim on broadleaves in clover.
Posted By: Waldo

Re: Herbicides? - 12/05/17 07:31 PM

Clethodim is for grasses. Butyrac is for broad leaves.

And be careful with herbicides in a high temperature high humidity situation.

Do not spray if the clover is stressed.
Posted By: 257wbymag

Re: Herbicides? - 12/05/17 11:34 PM

Do not use grazon. Use some non volatile dicamba to spray the MGs with. Couple doses with heavy gly will do it.
Posted By: centralala

Re: Herbicides? - 12/06/17 02:31 PM

I use grazon a lot and have been pleased with it. Kill persimmon trees in pastures good. I use a mixture of grazon, gly, and remedy to kill rose bushes. If it kills Cherokee roses, it'll kill asphalt. That's a TOUGH plant. I was thinking, or hoping, to use grazon because its not terribly expensive.

EDIT: I see dicamba is not very expensive either. THANKS!
Posted By: 257wbymag

Re: Herbicides? - 12/06/17 08:34 PM

The residual on grazon could dampen your clover establishment.
Posted By: Bossbuck

Re: Herbicides? - 02/13/18 03:19 AM

Herbicide for multiflora rose and privet hedge?

Posted By: 257wbymag

Re: Herbicides? - 02/13/18 01:36 PM

Garlon 3A will be your best bet on both
Posted By: Bossbuck

Re: Herbicides? - 02/14/18 12:52 AM

Thanks 257wbymag do you think it would be best to bushhog it down and then spray it and when is the best time to spray?
Posted By: 257wbymag

Re: Herbicides? - 02/14/18 12:58 AM

Catch the multiflora rose in may as it begins to get going. Spray the privet in fall.
Posted By: 007

Re: Herbicides? - 02/14/18 01:40 AM

I agree with 257, for the most part.

The general guidelines are to spray Rubus species (briars) in the summer - fall with triclopyr.
For most brush species, this is also true, including multiflora rose.

Do not mow brush before spraying. You end up treating minimal top growth that has a mature root system and won’t get near enough in to kill it.
Method 240SL at .375% v/v + Triclopyr at 0.5% v/v is hard to beat. Add in 8 oz Escort per 100 gallons and it’ll go bye-bye. Include MSO at 1% v/v. However, Method does not have a grazing tolerance and can only be sprayed on fence rows and not in pasture of the rose is there.

Privet can be killed with glyphosate in the winter when most other foliage is gone.
Posted By: joshm28

Re: Herbicides? - 02/15/18 01:26 AM

Why crimson? We have no problem growing crimson clover but the deer don't browse it like I thought they would. Gonna try durana next year
Posted By: DAX

Re: Herbicides? - 02/15/18 03:03 AM

257 I got a good one for you. Sicklepod in non GMO beans? What I have done is rotate every few years between round up beans and non. Seems to have worked well cause I have eliminated my hemp sesbaina and morning glory gyl tolerate issue. So now I rotating back to RU beans to get the sicklepod because I'm being told that is the only way to deal with it. I only have this issue in one field and it ain't that bad being that I'm not harvesting them but I like a clean field. Also any ideas you have on my bean spaying program are always appreciated.
Posted By: 257wbymag

Re: Herbicides? - 02/15/18 03:14 AM

Classic plus gly on RR beans is by far best bet and bang for $$$. Apply right before canopy for best results.
Posted By: DAX

Re: Herbicides? - 02/15/18 03:44 AM

You the man 257. Just looked it up and that fits my plan perfectly because I'm not spraying a pre in my burn down for RR beans so the timing of the first gly/classic plus app should be dead on.
Posted By: 257wbymag

Re: Herbicides? - 02/15/18 03:50 AM

Good deal. There's not many pre's that can handle large seeded broadleaves like sicklepod anyway. You're on right track.
Posted By: DAX

Re: Herbicides? - 02/15/18 04:06 AM

Yeah I may mess around and get good at this farming for deer thing. Seriously I appreciate the advice I have come a long ways from planting eagle beans and just spraying the piss out of gly for years. I will be getting to test a new forage bean for a company this year and I want to have my ducks in a row so I at least look like I know what the hell I'm doing.
Posted By: 257wbymag

Re: Herbicides? - 02/15/18 04:08 AM

When you get palmer in the mix then you swap to Xtend beans. I'll have some group 7 Xtend this year for deer. "Test plot"
Posted By: DAX

Re: Herbicides? - 02/15/18 04:19 AM

I'm hoping that never happens I've read about palmer and don't want no part of it. Hopefully by using a no-till plan and not disturbing the soil it will reduce my chances of that crap. I'm thinking about getting a roller crimper so I don't have to bring the bat wing in the fields anymore. The last couple years I just plant in the burned up standing cereal grains with great results. I still can't believe how good the Tyrone's and Derry's did last year as far a weeds go.
Posted By: 257wbymag

Re: Herbicides? - 02/15/18 04:22 AM

Anytime you reduce tillage you definitely reduce weed seed exposure. Keeping the seed bank low is key. Just make sure you don't buy any equipment from a palmer area and you should be fine. We learned the hard way
Posted By: DAX

Re: Herbicides? - 02/15/18 04:28 AM

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