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Cultipack alternative?

Posted By: Rmart30

Cultipack alternative? - 09/25/17 06:45 AM

Was listening to some guys talk about food plots and one mentioned wanting to buy a cultipacker but they were pricey when he found one.
One of the old guys there told him said hell your driving a cultipacker , pack em with the tractor.

Never really thought about that before myself. It wouldnt be feasible on larger plots but it wouldnt take long on lanes or small plots to go over with the tractor tires.

Worth trying it, or would the tractor compact it too much?
Posted By: timbercruiser

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/25/17 07:24 AM

I think you could take a 6 or 8 old mounted pickup tires that are about the same size and fill them with water (maybe partially), then slide them over a metal shaft of some kind, make a yoke attachment and pull them around a plot and it would do a fair/good job. It wouldn't be hard to just pull it from plot to plot without having to pick it up.
Posted By: toothdoc

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/25/17 07:52 AM

Anything with tires can be a cultipacker yes, but it takes a lot of passes to cover an entire field with tire tracks.
Posted By: ALFisher

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/25/17 09:59 AM

I use an old cattle gate. A log works well too. Just make sure you tie either off with something break away, like a rope. If it hangs on something unexpected, and doesn't break, can be dangerous.
Posted By: Rmart30

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/25/17 10:00 AM


Originally Posted By: toothdoc
Anything with tires can be a cultipacker yes, but it takes a lot of passes to cover an entire field with tire tracks.


Yeah, Wasnt sure if it would be too compacted or not by tractor weight. Seems like most culitpackers ive seen a weight listed on were 750-1100 # Thanks.
Posted By: deadeye48

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/25/17 10:42 AM

I've always cultipacked with the tractor ...it works great and you don't have to swap attachments
Posted By: blumsden

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/25/17 11:05 AM

The main thing when discing is not to disc too deep. A couple inches is plenty. Drag a roll of chainlink over it. That smoothes it real good.
Posted By: Rmart30

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/25/17 11:31 AM


Originally Posted By: blumsden
The main thing when discing is not to disc too deep. A couple inches is plenty. Drag a roll of chainlink over it. That smoothes it real good.


Yeah, this guy was discussing planting clover is what brought up cultipacking.
Most clubs disc the clover in too deep.This guy was talking about going back and top dressing with clover after the disk guy had left. Wether to hope the rain washed it in, or to cultipack it.
Posted By: AU338MAG

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/25/17 02:57 PM

Smooth the plot with a harrow drag after disking then spread the seed. Drag one more time and it will cover the seed nicely.
Posted By: jlbuc10

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/26/17 08:11 AM


Originally Posted By: AU338MAG
Smooth the plot with a harrow drag after disking then spread the seed. Drag one more time and it will cover the seed nicely.

This is what we do
Posted By: N2TRKYS

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/26/17 08:16 AM

You can make a cultipacker out of corrugated pipe.
Posted By: bambam32

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/26/17 10:41 AM

Originally Posted By: AU338MAG
Smooth the plot with a harrow drag after disking then spread the seed. Drag one more time and it will cover the seed nicely.


What kind of drag harrow are you using? Is it a homemade or one of the heavy chained drag harrows? Pics would be nice if you have any.
Posted By: jlbuc10

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/26/17 05:12 PM

Originally Posted By: bambam32
Originally Posted By: AU338MAG
Smooth the plot with a harrow drag after disking then spread the seed. Drag one more time and it will cover the seed nicely.


What kind of drag harrow are you using? Is it a homemade or one of the heavy chained drag harrows? Pics would be nice if you have any.

Posted By: walt4dun

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/26/17 08:57 PM

Piece of chain link fence with some weight on it attached to a 4 wheeler with a THIN rope.
Posted By: dBmV

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/26/17 08:59 PM

I use 5 tires chained in a triangle formation pulled behind an atv. Works great and you can drag it down the road between plots without tearing it up. Before we built it we did just run over some of the smaller lanes with the atv. Lot easier with the drag.
Posted By: !shiloh!

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/26/17 09:16 PM

I drag a 7 ft piece of angle iron with a 15ft chain hooked to both ends. Cheap,durable and ez to move from plot to plot.
Posted By: Rmart30

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/26/17 09:49 PM

Havent thought about it too much before wether to cultipack or not.
With the way most hunting club food plots are with sticks, root balls, wads of bush hogged waist high grass and weeds from the cutting the week before, dragging is good but it will not pack seeds into good contact with soil, which a Cultipacker does.
Since clover seeds are very small but require good contact to germinate. Disking in or heavy dragging is more likely to cover these seeds too deep.

I myself have just done the light disk or some type of 4 wheeler drag to cover. But ive also seen a lot of seed left on top that didnt germinate, (no good contact?) or know of clover plots that were planted and disked in but never came up. (too deep?)

I planted 2 spots today and tried it 2 ways on each plot.
On all i lightly disked the seed mix in, then topped it with clover. I then packed half of each plot with the tractor.
Will watch it and see if can tell any difference in it.
Posted By: johndeere5036

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/27/17 08:55 PM

I love my cultipcker and my fields look way better since I started using one. Sure makes a very pretty slick field when you get done
Posted By: 257wbymag

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/27/17 09:20 PM

Yep
Posted By: N2TRKYS

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/27/17 09:23 PM

We use a section harrow to cover our seed. Does a very good job.
Posted By: Wiley Coyote

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/28/17 04:41 AM

Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
We use a section harrow to cover our seed. Does a very good job.


Old pull type section harrows were a farmer's favorite tool when I was growing up. Talk about busting clods and smoothing a field, they worked wonders. I haven't seen one in decades.
Posted By: .308

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/28/17 05:44 AM

After using my rototiller to till the plot & after seed & fertilizer, I take the pto out of gear & "walk" the tiller across the plot. It acts like a mini sheep's foot. It's packs & covers great.
Posted By: marshmud991

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/29/17 06:47 PM


He ya go!!
Posted By: N2TRKYS

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 09/29/17 07:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote
Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
We use a section harrow to cover our seed. Does a very good job.


Old pull type section harrows were a farmer's favorite tool when I was growing up. Talk about busting clods and smoothing a field, they worked wonders. I haven't seen one in decades.


Ours is the 3 point hitch variety.
Posted By: therealhojo

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 10/05/17 09:21 PM

A Firminator will let you do it all in 1 pass. We just tried the 6' RT (Rotor Tiller) version. Till, Plant, Pack.
Posted By: therealhojo

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 10/05/17 09:21 PM

Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote
Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
We use a section harrow to cover our seed. Does a very good job.


Old pull type section harrows were a farmer's favorite tool when I was growing up. Talk about busting clods and smoothing a field, they worked wonders. I haven't seen one in decades.


Ours is the 3 point hitch variety.


They are hard to find.
Posted By: Rmart30

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 10/05/17 10:32 PM

I think I can build one about 6-8 ft wide using OTR truck tires for under $200.

I did test strips on the fields i planted the other day.
The sides that were packed by the tractor had much more coming up in those areas than did the sides that were just lightly disked in.
Gave them probably a good weeks head start if not more over the non packed side.
Posted By: Squadron77

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 10/06/17 09:59 AM

I built one of these a few years ago and it works great as long as you don't have a lot of rocks.

http://www.mytractorforum.com/showthread.php?t=240270
Posted By: timbercruiser

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 10/06/17 06:05 PM

Is that a culvert pipe with concrete in it?
Posted By: Squadron77

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 10/06/17 08:36 PM

That is some old plastic culvert we had around camp. I had to buy 2 pillow block bearings and a 2" receiver and 6 bags of sakrete. I used scrap from our driveline shop to build the frame so I had less then $100 in building it. It works great on small fields but just not big enough for the larger fields.
Posted By: timbercruiser

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 10/07/17 06:37 AM

What does it weigh? What is the diameter? I have a piece of new 26" plastic pipe about 10' long I've been thinking about fixing, maybe a 7' long packer, but I don't know what it would weigh to move around and what it would take to pull it, probably a small tractor.
Posted By: Squadron77

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 10/07/17 11:59 AM


I had to find my notes. It's 15" diameter and 44" long. I used 8 bags of sakrete and it weighs 550 lbs.
Posted By: muzziehead

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 10/09/17 10:05 AM

I made this one from heavy 6AWG chainlink fence wire. It is 15 years old and has been used to drag many fields. It does a great job, especially with the added weight of the tires, but it takes a good atv to pull it. We have just pulled it with a truck too.
Posted By: N2TRKYS

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 10/09/17 10:20 AM

Originally Posted By: therealhojo
Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote
Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
We use a section harrow to cover our seed. Does a very good job.


Old pull type section harrows were a farmer's favorite tool when I was growing up. Talk about busting clods and smoothing a field, they worked wonders. I haven't seen one in decades.


Ours is the 3 point hitch variety.


They are hard to find.


Huh? You can buy them anytime. A quick Google search offers lots of choices.
Posted By: ClarkGriswold

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 10/11/17 03:54 PM

Posted By: top cat

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 10/11/17 05:11 PM

For smaller plots I took three landscape 4x4's, changed them about 8" apart and bolted angle metal across them to keep them from rolling. Then took another piece of chain and made a hookup for the ATV. Works pretty dang good, light enough to haul.
Posted By: Tigger85

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 10/11/17 10:10 PM

I use a piece of metal man grate on a chain pulled behind 4 wheeler. Seems to work well
Posted By: GKelly

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 10/12/17 12:54 PM

We've always just covered our seed with about a 4 ft lengt of chain length fence. Attach a 2x4 at the front and rear for weight and tie a rope to both ends of one of the boards tie a loop in the middle of the rope to attach to a ball hitch. Works good soesnt cover to deep and smooths out well after discing. Also rolls up easy to haul on the back of an atv
Posted By: bambam32

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 10/12/17 05:20 PM

I use a 6', round post behind my disk while disking and covering. This is the forth year I've been using this set up. It takes longer but it does a good job. I disk and cover so the pole doesn't bounce and is in constant contact with the ground.

We used to use a chain link gate behind an ATV. In our case, the gate looked like it did a good job because all of the seed was dusted when finished. After the rain washed the dust off it was alarming how much seed wasn't covered. Maybe some weight would have helped. The crows and turkeys appreciated it though.
Posted By: GKelly

Re: Cultipack alternative? - 10/15/17 09:47 AM

Originally Posted By: jlbuc10
Originally Posted By: bambam32
Originally Posted By: AU338MAG
Smooth the plot with a harrow drag after disking then spread the seed. Drag one more time and it will cover the seed nicely.


What kind of drag harrow are you using? Is it a homemade or one of the heavy chained drag harrows? Pics would be nice if you have any.

these things work awesome you can break the soil with the spikes then flip it over to cover and smooth the one ive used weighed about 100 pounds
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