Seed Wheat vs Feed Wheat

Anyone ever plant feed wheat in food plots? I was curious if it works as good as seed wheat.
Whats a good mix to plant without spending big money on seed. I usually plan Tecomante Maxx Attract but wanted to split it up this year.
The Maxx attract is about 45.00 per acre

Feed wheat will definitely come up just expect a little less germination then seed.

Easy. No. What do you think the difference is? One has been inspected to ensure the best possible germination rate. The other didn't pass the test to be sold as seed. Perhaps you meant to ask if it will perform good enough to get by? That's a different question.

We got feed wheat two years ago and certified seed last year. There was a huge difference in germination with the certified seed. You really don't know until you see the seed heads in the spring. No more feed wheat for us.

Seed heads seen in spring have nothing to do with seed vs feed wheat.

ones legal for doves and one isnt....

Lmao

More Coffeeweed, etc in the feed wheat

We plant feed wheat in a few of our fields and it came up just fine and looked just like the other regular wheat fields. Just added a few more lbs to the seeding rate.

Coffee weed isn't even up when we cut a wheat crop.

Same with us. We spent what we saved on feed grade over seed grade and put it toward more lime and fertilizer.

Lots of inert matter and noxious weeds in feed wheat but to each their own. Come mid December you'll be asking where those giant looking turnip plants that cover your field came from and just remember the few $$$ you saved. Don't worry those wild turnips will be back next year also. This I have seen first hand on people land who used feed wheat vs seed wheat. 257's knowledge on this is well beyond mine so he can probably elaborate a little more.

Never had any germination problem with feed wheat or germination of the wild turnips that came with it. I've been trying to get rid of the wild turnips for about 10 years and still counting

OK. I'll admit I'm not an expert so can you elaborate? The following spring after we planted feed wheat we saw hardly any wheat heads. The following spring after we planted certified seed our fields were covered with wheat heads. I took that as evidence that the certified seed germinated better than the feed wheat. What am I missing?

Used to I would have said not much difference maybe just sow the feed wheat a little heavy. But the last several years we have used the NWTF certified and it makes a big difference. Very nice

I can't remember shite! Seems planting feed wheat is illegal. Not a game law. Some other kind of law.

Bingo.

Illegal to plant wheat

I was assuming it came in some feed wheat. I've got it in two spots this year. I tried to bush hog it this year before it went to seed, don't know if that will help. Possibly could have gotten it in some WGF Sorghum ? It was certified, cleaned seed ?

And don't get me started on the wild turnips. Anything effective on it that won't nuke clover ?

This case is very concerning, and I've read about it before, but completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

I don't think any of us would argue that planting wheat, in and of itself, is illegal. It's probably in every food plot in the state. So, planting wheat is clearly not illegal.

I should have titled the link differently, perhaps "illegal to plant seed wheat." A few years ago I was a rookie (still am I guess) and was talking to a guy at a seed and feed store up in Marion county. Got to talking about wheat and he said something along the lines of he makes sure he's out of stock on feed wheat during the fall because it was illegal to be planted (only for feed) and of course hunters are after it since it's a little cheaper. I think he said another feed and seed store had gotten busted for it. Don't really see why he'd lie about it, but could have been. I researched it a little bit years ago just out of curiosity. It seems like I found more relevant articles in the past. I'll see what I can dig up, but the general idea was something along the lines of big corporations and the government.

That said, I also think this would kind of fall into those crazy laws (if true) that even law enforcement are unaware of or ignore. Kind of like how it apparently it is illegal to sell peanuts in Lee County after sundown on Wednesday in Alabama.

Here is the old thread with a lot of good links and the experts (not me) chiming in.

Wheat

Feed wheat is where the problem comes in.

The problems associated with feed wheat are germination rate, noxious weed seeds in the mix etc. There aren't any patent issues to worry about, and I don't think the feds are going to monitor my wheat planting quota.

Feed or seed wheat will both grow and do well.

What he said.

Feed wheat is not legal to use for top sowing if you are planning a dove shoot over it. The dcnr uses the Extension Service recommendation to determine what is normal Agricultural practice, and it they have decided it isn't normal to plant feed wheat.

If you wanna plant feed wheat in a deer plot, I don't think there is any law against that. I bought some seed wheat this week for $9. I asked the price of feed wheat - $9. He said he got a good buy on the seed wheat and is passing it on to customers. I've got a couple of fields ruined by wild turnips that were in feed wheat my dad bought in the 90s. I've stuck with seed wheat since.

There is a lot more to the 1940s era case than that article mentions. I remember it still being discussed in classes at Auburn in the 70s. There were all sorts of programs the government had back then, and if you signed up for their programs and took their money, you were bound to follow their rules. The farmer thought he had a loophole because he wasn't gonna sell the wheat, he was gonna feed it to chickens and sell them. That info is from memory and may not be exactly right, so please correct if I'm wrong.

I do remember that the farmer was so mad that he sold out and moved to Australia to farm. He came back in a few years; said they were even worse.

None of this has anything to do with the Obama era law about food production. Who knows how it might be enforced.

I may have been thinking of the dove. Reckon how many people planting plots actually check test date. I've caught some trying to sell last years seed to me. It is suppose to be rechecked for germination every so often and retagged. Think its once a year. Generally, last year seed is what the NWTF sells cheap.

I'd like to see the DCNR to try and prove somebody planted feed instead of seed wheat.

Once out of the bag, how are they going to tell the diffence? Hell they have little interest in stopping people from throwing out corn!!!! What makes anybody think they are going to start checking the type of wheat your using!

I think it's more geared towards farmers and dealers selling uncertified crops as "seed".

Like I said earlier, it was a guy at the seed and feed talking about not selling feed wheat for plots (and said someone got busted for selling). For what it's worth, he was the store owner, not some 19-year old kid loading fertilizer in the back of people's trucks. He could have been fibbing though.

It's simple. They will use the same tried and true methods they use to make sure that nobody kills over 5 turkeys or 3 bucks in a season. And since there has never been an arrest made for violating either regulation, then it's clear that these methods are 100% effective.

You do not have to plant certified seed for cover crops. So there's your loophole. I'll use feed wheat all day on cover crop. My head hurts and I'm tired. Another one of these threads I could clear up easily here but I'm not going to.

This NWTF wheat I speak of is not from any other year and is solid ( non deformed) with a orange coating . Maybe some kind of inoculant or something to keep birds from eating

Nope. Just standard fungicide plus maybe insecticide seed treatment. Wheat doesn't need inoculating. And thanks to the EPA we don't have bird repellents anymore