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Work days and work day fees?

Posted By: JRF

Work days and work day fees? - 04/22/16 05:48 PM

Some of you guys in clubs how many work days do you require and what is your fees for not attending them?
Posted By: hopper35005

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/22/16 07:40 PM

4 work days .....100.00 for each day missed
Posted By: JCL

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/22/16 08:15 PM

20 hours, $15 hour for each hour not worked.
Posted By: bigt

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/23/16 03:25 AM

3 work days....$100 for a missed day.
Posted By: glenncmp

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/23/16 06:30 AM

32 hours.. $25 per hour missed. This does not include planting week
Posted By: bamaeyedoc

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/23/16 08:43 AM

Originally Posted By: bigt
3 work days....$100 for a missed day.


This.

Dr. B
Posted By: walt4dun

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/23/16 11:33 AM

2 days or $200
Posted By: BamaGrad85

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/24/16 08:16 PM

Originally Posted By: bigt
3 work days....$100 for a missed day.


^^^this^^^
Posted By: johndeere5036

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/24/16 09:17 PM

An old club I was in was full of people with deep pockets so hardly nobody would work they just wanted to hunt. My thoughts to get people to help do the work is work three or four work days or you don't hunt instead of paying a fine for not working days.
Posted By: SouthBamaSlayer

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/24/16 09:56 PM


Originally Posted By: johndeere5036
An old club I was in was full of people with deep pockets so hardly nobody would work they just wanted to hunt. My thoughts to get people to help do the work is work three or four work days or you don't hunt instead of paying a fine for not working days.


I know of a club that has a mandatory 3 work days, and every work day you miss takes a week off the end of your season.
Posted By: JRF

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/24/16 09:59 PM

That's the problem I'm having now I've got a few guys that don't hunt very often they do pay Their fines. But when they get there they complain about things it's getting done. So taken away hunt dates may be something that we need to look at that might get their attention. We also have 3 work days with $100 per day missed is what we have now.
Posted By: alhawk

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/25/16 07:35 AM

Originally Posted By: SouthBamaSlayer

Originally Posted By: johndeere5036
An old club I was in was full of people with deep pockets so hardly nobody would work they just wanted to hunt. My thoughts to get people to help do the work is work three or four work days or you don't hunt instead of paying a fine for not working days.


I know of a club that has a mandatory 3 work days, and every work day you miss takes a week off the end of your season.


May be the best fine/penalty/rule I have ever seen. I would imagine the desired results were achieved. $100 fines won't hurt some, but this one would do the job.
Posted By: Robert D.

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/25/16 07:37 AM

Originally Posted By: JRF
That's the problem I'm having now I've got a few guys that don't hunt very often they do pay Their fines. But when they get there they complain about things it's getting done. So taken away hunt dates may be something that we need to look at that might get their attention. We also have 3 work days with $100 per day missed is what we have now.


Better idea is figure out what it would cost to hire someone to help do the work those days and double that figure. Let that be the new amount equal to missing a work day. Put the extra money into club improvements.

Deep pocketed people don't get deep pocketed by paying someone else $3-500 per day to do work they could do themselves. Unless they make that kind of money per day (on a weekend). Another possibility is dividing up the work and giving everyone a specific set of tasks. It becomes real apparent real quick then who's not holding up their end. After a certain date hire someone to do that guys tasks, or let another member do it, and give him the guys fine money.

Plenty of ways to skin cats. Gotta get creative.
Posted By: walt4dun

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/25/16 09:30 AM

^ this is the way we used to do it. Our club is broken up into areas and members were assigned an area and it was there responsibility to have it ready to hunt (roads cleared, minor stand repairs, etc) with a deadline date. I liked it.

Now we are having 6 consecutive work days in which a member must make 2 days.
Posted By: walt4dun

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/25/16 09:45 AM

Also, I have a friend that is a superintendent for a construction company that has brought out a crew of amigos to do all the work for $100 per man per day. Pretty smart actually. They can do a heck of a lot more work and faster than a group of fat old white guys not used to working in the summer heat.
Posted By: GeauxRed

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/25/16 09:52 AM

There are currently clubs that don't have work days and/or work day fees.

Some of those clubs have a group of members that pay a substantially reduced or no membership dues/fees. This group completes the work. (President, lease holder, vice president, family members, close friends, etc....) Therefore, the remaining members are paying for the labor/lease.
Posted By: OlTimer

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/25/16 09:59 AM

3 days or $150 per day missed.
Posted By: timbercruiser

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/25/16 12:47 PM

We are suppose to have fines for the members that don't show up, but really it is still a core group that does the majority of the planting. A lot of them are just in the way and just want to ride around and drink beer all day.
Posted By: Sulli

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/25/16 01:42 PM

Originally Posted By: JRF
That's the problem I'm having now I've got a few guys that don't hunt very often they do pay Their fines. But when they get there they complain about things it's getting done. So taken away hunt dates may be something that we need to look at that might get their attention. We also have 3 work days with $100 per day missed is what we have now.

We had a similar situation where someone complained about a stand needing some work. He never came to work days and on this day it struck a chord with a member (his Dad) and was given a hammer, some nails and lumber and was told to go fix it or shut up. There was a group of about 8 of us out of 18-20 that always showed up for work days and did stuff on their On my way! as well. I busted out laughing the day this happened-PRICELESS
Posted By: dBmV

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/25/16 09:05 PM

I have never heard of levying a fine for not pulling your weight at the lease. Why not just not include them in the lease the following year. There's people looking to join a club every year.
Posted By: Shotts

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/29/16 02:58 PM

Work days and fees are one thing what about equipment how is it handled? Also equipment damage (i.e. flats, broken disk blades. I have always tried to do more than my share and be a good member. Last year I think I covered every green field on our club. I don't mind and believe in using what I have and helping, but it is annoying when the majority show up and ride 4 wheelers instead of working, while you haul equipment back and forth and damage it on rough new food plots.
Posted By: Remington270

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/29/16 10:11 PM

Originally Posted By: dBmV
I have never heard of levying a fine for not pulling your weight at the lease. Why not just not include them in the lease the following year. There's people looking to join a club every year.


Hmmm. Maybe because they get to hunt that whole season without putting forth any work effort?
Posted By: Remington270

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/29/16 10:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Shotts
Work days and fees are one thing what about equipment how is it handled? Also equipment damage (i.e. flats, broken disk blades. I have always tried to do more than my share and be a good member. Last year I think I covered every green field on our club. I don't mind and believe in using what I have and helping, but it is annoying when the majority show up and ride 4 wheelers instead of working, while you haul equipment back and forth and damage it on rough new food plots.


I think planting all the plots on a big lease with your equipment is very likely worth a huge chunk of your membership fee. It would be if you hired it out, and then some.
Posted By: bigt

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/30/16 07:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Shotts
Work days and fees are one thing what about equipment how is it handled? Also equipment damage (i.e. flats, broken disk blades. I have always tried to do more than my share and be a good member. Last year I think I covered every green field on our club. I don't mind and believe in using what I have and helping, but it is annoying when the majority show up and ride 4 wheelers instead of working, while you haul equipment back and forth and damage it on rough new food plots.

Our club gives a membership to our tractor guy hopefully that will cover any expenses he incurs........
Posted By: bigt

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 04/30/16 07:55 PM

Originally Posted By: dBmV
I have never heard of levying a fine for not pulling your weight at the lease. Why not just not include them in the lease the following year. There's people looking to join a club every year.

You haven't been in many clubs then I guess.......Also just because so,me one doesn't show up for work days doesn't necessarily make them a bad member. They could be a ethical hunter that doesn't put a lot of pressure on the property and get a long with everyone........
Posted By: STRING

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 05/01/16 06:27 PM

2 days or $100 per day if you don't work. We match the work to the skill of the person. We all work together when we plant. If you have a tractor and do fields ( spray to kill, bush hog, disk ) then you don't pay membership but you don't get reimbersed for anything you break or any other expenses.
Posted By: dBmV

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 05/01/16 09:04 PM

Originally Posted By: bigt
Originally Posted By: dBmV
I have never heard of levying a fine for not pulling your weight at the lease. Why not just not include them in the lease the following year. There's people looking to join a club every year.

You haven't been in many clubs then I guess.......Also just because so,me one doesn't show up for work days doesn't necessarily make them a bad member. They could be a ethical hunter that doesn't put a lot of pressure on the property and get a long with everyone........

Actually I've been in at least one club every year since 1996. Right now I've got 3 leases that I'm responsible for with different land owners. Things may have changed since I pulled my own leases but we never did it in any club I've been in. It's always been my rule that if you didn't make it to a work day you were assigned something to do before the season started and you couldn't miss more than 1 work day.
Now I have had members that didn't put much effort into work days but they were always put with someone who would make sure they worked on the next work day. If that didn't work they just weren't invited back the next year. Simple as that. But I guess if you have 30 members you probably can't live by this just because of the number of people to keep up with.
I still say its not worth the drama of dealing with members that aren't willing to put the work into a club. If I have to worry about fineing you for not working, your not worth your membership anyway and your gone.
Unless it's the mythical member that pays their dues early every year and never shows for work but also only hunts on opening day then never shows up again till time to pay dues next year. I wouldn't mind having a couple of those.
Posted By: TooTall

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 05/08/16 01:43 PM

For a little lesson in reverse psychology, try charging everyone $100 for each workday you intend to have, then pay them $100 for each day they make.

If they can't make it you hire out the missing labor or pay everyone else the difference.
Posted By: CASPER81

Re: Work days and work day fees? - 05/08/16 02:10 PM

That maybe a way to try it. An see what results come from the change. It makes total sense an possibly the best way to finally get those members we all as club management see every year telling the few that actually show up that we dont do things right or the way we planted is wrong but never do you see them on work/plant days.
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