well

looks like strong and direct reminders dont matter much. going to have to change things up.

Sent my 3% from my covert camera that sold other day. Hope that helped it wasn’t much

got that, you are good. Thank you. These others dont seem to understand.

Just sent in for the trophy chair I sold. Also added a little extra.

Thank you.

Start posting names of deadbeats and we can just adjust payment and send 3% as the buyer or not do business with them. Or if they don’t pay up, block them from classifieds or delete their ads

i clicked on the donate link yesterday and it didn't work. will try again

Heck I sent $40 and didn’t even sell anything . Some you pieces of crap need to get right

Why not just call them out here on the board?

got there, but get an error sending money

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4fhd2ljzvieu7oz/payment1.JPG?dl=0

I think the problem with calling people out is that the 3% is only suggested at this point.

Maybe more than a suggestion in the future if I read Skinny right.

Thank you Morris, we have had our differences but you and I understand honest business. I may just start doing that. That is not a bad idea. Chinese style...social media credit score.

Skinny are some of the guys ignoring the 3% repeat offenders?

Are they aldeer veterans that know better or rookies?

Im surprised this is still going on given how much it was discussed a few weeks ago.

If you sell an item and dont submit payment within 15 days it’s a $100 late fee to do business (buy or sell) in the classifieds again.

Or just get a temporary ban hammer for the first offense. Permanent on the second offense

This.

Good grief!

It’s freaking 3%.......you gotta sell something over $3k to even get the $100 mulligan.

Selling $1k guns, it’s only $30.....flea bay probably costs you more, and nobody even likes them.

I think some folks just need every penny they can get and are good folks who are thinking they will make it up later. Credit living people, its a world wide problem. I understand, I have been there many years ago and eventually paid down the tough times, it did take a while.
Others though are bad folks who take advantage of a good thing, I want to weed those asshats out on here. Honest society used to keep them knocked back but nowadays we dont have the face to face to get them out. I am thinking something up though.

Paid memberships could weed some asshats out too. Just sayin

Sent my 3% when my leaf vacuum finally sold. Hope it got there. Didn't see any error notice

Got that! Thank you!

What happened to the donate link?

If you dont see it up there to the right of the meyer insurance ad then your computer is messed up.

I have always considered it a special privilege to be able to sell or buy here in the classifieds. Have always done right by my 3% each time I have sold something here. I'm gonna do right every time because I know that one day I'm going to answer to the Lord God for all I've done whilst here on this earth. I surely don't need Him chastising me over a little ol' 3% that I owed to Skinny Digger.

I reckon some folks here act like it's their right to use this place and do so without paying up. I'd get real harsh with those folks and wouldn't feel one bit bad about doing so.

I just hope you come up with a way to deal with the situation, so that all the folks here that does do right, doesn't get punished for the wrong of a few.

Billy you have been on this site from the beginning and you know how it works. I do not want to ruin a good thing over those who take advantage and of-course you have seen that from the beginning over 20 years ago. It has been that long.

Yes, Jason, you are correct. We have had a real good thing here for a long, long time. It sure is aggravating to know that we have a bunch here now that won't do right and you are having to deal with this crap so much.

This place has been a ton of enjoyment and a blessing to me for the last 20 years. It really doesn't seem like it has been that long but my, the years really have went on by us.

I'll live with and do right by whatever you come up with on this situation. Thanks so much for what we have had for such a long time.

I like this idea. And only paid members can post, classifieds or anything else.

Hoggin has volunteered to be head of the “CRT” collections response team. 😁

Seems like the simple solution would be to suspend the users account if they don't pay.

Call them out publicly and let the natives tear em down! Lol!

If I’m screwing up you can let me know publicly or through PM. I listed a trailer on here but it sold off my Facebook market place ad. Do I still pay a 3% fee here because I listed it or do I only pay here when it sells as a result of the ad on Aldeer?

I think your fine NSDQ. If Skinny took 3% for every listing regardless of sale on site he'd be a politician.

Charging a membership fee to use the classifieds wouldn't bother me but with all the free places to sell out there it would likely lead to a slow death of the category on aldeer.

Guvner.....🤷🏻‍♂️....Just sayin.

If you have bought something and the person hasn't posted that they paid the 3% call them out on it.

Havent sold anything off here in a long time but just sent in a payment to help out. Let me know if you don't get it Skinny.

I sent $10

Thank you and Thank you!

Archery Talk has a blacklist of people to be aware of.

I get an error.

Took it this time.

Not everyone who pays 3%, post it was paid though.

God Bless,
David B.

Dammit!...I forgot...HE IS A POLITICIAN!

Just sent my 3% for the layout boat. Sold it last Wednesday evening, and I reckon I had forgot about sending it during all the holiday mess going on. We good now Guvner.

Why not just send a message with amount due to any seller when the item is listed as sold. Give them a grace period then if not paid suspend membership.

Then folks will list as sold on another site. Plus we don’t have time to be sending all those messages.

are a majority of offenders relatively new members (people joining just so they can post on the classifieds) or is it long-time members? As someone mentioned in the last thread, many forums require a minimum post count or minimum wait period after joining before you can even see the classifieds, much less post in them......cause I guarantee you that guy that joins the site and his first/only post is a classifieds post isn't paying the 3% fee. In fact, they probably honestly don't know they're supposed to because I seriously doubt they're reading the rules first anyway.

I don't know if it's possible, based on the software running the site, but possibly:

1. minimum post count of 100 posts to even see that there is a classifieds, then
2. once a user meets 100 posts and can see the classifieds, they have to request access that has to be approved by a Moderator
3. make them click through something stating they've read/agreed to the rules, including the 3% donation

unfortunately I don't know that there's much way around that, unless you charge a fee just to list it to begin with. I know a lot of folks probably post items on Facebook Marketplace and craigslist, in addition to here and I'm sure many do sell on those sites before it sells here, but undoubtedly some will say that just to avoid paying the donation...

I would also suggest editing the original "Classifieds Rules" post and remove the part that says the donation upon sale "would be nice" and change it to "is required"

I am on another automotive forum that requests donations from members to sponsor the site. Their names are listed on the top, etc. I am sure it helps to offset the cost of running the site., which I assume is not cheap. However, the ones that would donate to support the site are the ones that are paying the 3% anyway. Maybe it really is time for an ALdeer premium that allows you to post in the classified other wise it's read only.

As far as I know, I'm current on paying my 3%.

A few times in the past I had multiple items sell at the same time and I'd send 1 payment for all, for the actual selling price, not the initial asking price.

If I'm not, or there are any questions, you can let me know via PM or in an open forum...I'll make it right.

I'd also be on board for a paid membership...I like this place and want to see it succeed

This.

I usually pay money on and off through the year for things I sell. If I get behind send Out back over to slap me in the head and tell me to tighten up.

You have a step stool he can borrow, or does he need to bring his own? 😆

That was my first thought

I sent $10 on an ad for a deer for firewood trade and found out it was illegal so I'm out the money and a deer. Whatever, figure I've caused exponentially more aggravation here than $10 worth. And has been suggested, just charge $5.00 for any ad posted and be done with it. No pay, no play.

You could charge $5 per year on the first ad a person runs that has to be paid before posting. Then they must pay their 3% or $100 on subsequent submissions or posting privileges are suspended for a length of time and repeat offenders get the boot. That $5 fee would bring in revenue from everyone using the classifieds and get people used to paying through the system that's been established.

Skinny, I'm sending you a PM about something else that could help regarding the payment gateway.

I’m probably guilty of this myself. I have bought a LOT of items from members here and I’m sure I’ve sold a few. I’ll work on getting something paid this week. I’ll make it a round number and hope it helps. I have enjoyed this forum for several years and through both accounts I’ve had. I lost access to my older one (Robert D) when I changed jobs years ago.

I apologize for the oversight and will endeavor to do better in the future. Thanks Skinny

Auburn and Florida fans should have to pay $5 a month to be members of ALDEER.

$50 for FSU fans.

And $10,000 for Bama fanaticz.

Just donated $10, never sold anything on the site, haven't posted but a few times, but have enjoyed reading the site for years.

I also just sent $10.00 to help keep the lights on.

Sold a portalette couple weeks ago, donated my 3% just now

Sold a XDS about three years ago. I cant remember if I paid With late fees and other fees I probably owe about $3,000. Just sent $30. hope that will keep me off the band list.

Our team is so poor we're on food stamps and welfare.

I haven't bought or sold anything on here. But the other day something finally caught my eye, and I looked up the sellers profile, because he only had like 9 posts. Every post he had made was either the classified ad or a comment on the item.

3% should be mandatory for all members.and minimum post count to sell on here.

Or maybe 5% or more for new members

Sent some money over!

I sold my wood chipper thanks to ToothDoc for the referral. I was glad to send my $100 because I didn’t have to deal with the crazies on Craigslist.

I sold my Summit to Ben2 and rounded up and gave more than 3% just because it’s not much money to keep a good thing going here. I’ve listed a bunch of other stuff on here that I either just traded straight up with no money exchange, or didn’t even sell at all. I haven’t had much luck selling items here. Guess nobody wants my junk!

Thank Ya'll to those who have sent in. If its only a $1 on a sale that is what its about. We try to keep this place as cheap as possible. I looked into ads on facebook, holy smoke's, a simple shop store there is several grand a year, and you never know what kind of asshat you may end up dealing with.

I don't think charging someone to be a membership is a good idea. I like this website but not sure I would pay a monthly or yearly subscription Im sure there are other people who also think that. Now I don't mind donating every now and then. Now $5 for the first add and then 3% after that seems like it would be the best idea, however I do realize I am not a moderator so my opinion does not matter what so ever. Just my $0.02

I'm working up something honest that I think most folks can live with and it wont costed nuthin.

After reading this thread I realized I neglected to send in my donation for a sale I made recently. Didn't mean to short change anyone Skinny. I just overlooked it. Payment sent.

Thank you!

Glad y’all lowlifes are getting up to date, y’all been getting to heavy to keep carrying 😁

Just a thought Skinny.......... How about a working thread that users post "I made my 3% contribution for my _____ " It'll always be commented in, therefore making it always at the top, therefore reminding users.......... I dont know, trying to help.

Call them out in their thread.
If they claim sold on another site, the member who purchased should call them out for public ridicule for not only selling and not paying but lying to dodge.

That is a good point snakebit, but nobody has any time to police the facelists and craigbooks. over 3% on a hundred dollar lawn mower sale ($3.00). This is really a kind of social problem. Its just 3%. I have a few solutions in mind but really the honor system is so much easier on me and everyone else. Many folks have paid more than their 3% to try and make up for the asshats. I may just put a gate up and make folks pay at the door. so that they do not have to risk being dishonest.

I'm going to be sure and write "sold to me" on posts that aren't flagged by the seller as sold...

I just sent $20. I’ve traded several items over the past couple years and sold a couple small things. I don’t think I’ve sent my 3% in every time but I’ll make sure I do going forward.

Thank you!

$20 donation sent per mine and BCLC agreement with a extra $5 donation sent.

Thank you!

I’ll admit i didn't pay last time i sold something and can’t remember what it was but meant to get with you about my concerns and forgot all about it. My issue was with the payment system. If i remember correctly, we used to pay with PayPal and that’s how i pay for everything online because i don’t like my info to get out in too many places on the internet. I have still never heard of paygistix or whatever it is. I bit the bullet and sent in $20.00 which is way more than i owe to help offset the costs of others who will never pay. I just hope my account doesn’t get hacked after this.

Look them up. Payment Logistics (Paygistix is their Gateway)has a A+ rating with the better business bureau and unlike PayPal, has never had an internal data breach. Also, they are who ElkHunter , FurFlyin, Ben2 and several other aldeer members use for their business credit card processing. Plus , the fees are lower and we actually want hunters and gun enthusiasts business.

I'm an independent contractor and can choose to send business to any processing company and Payment Logistics is the one I send 99% of all my clients to because of their customer service and my ability to keep rates low with them. I'm doing this site's processing at cost because I wanted to help and didn't feel right trying to make a profit on something all of us get to enjoy for free but hope to pick up business from other business owners on the site if they aren't happy with their current processor or want to compare rates. Hope this answers your questions about security and , for the record, I have zero access to any cardholder info and can only see the amount of the transaction.

Just sent in $15, sold a revolver here in October and forgot all about it until I saw this, took forever for me and the buyer to meet and the deal to go through after we'd agreed to terms. I know there is a pile I did years ago that never got paid up too, but I was always under the impression it was voluntary and I'm not selling stuff because I'm rich lol. May list a .22 here this weekend and I'll be sure to send in the 3% if I sell it

That does make me feel much better. Thanks

Thank you for sending in. And to reiterate what bill said. I cannot see any kind of card number at all. The only thing I see is a name, address, amount. Its very secure, cheaper than paypal, and they do not care about politics.

Skinny, if we went to paid memberships rather than donations, wouldn’t that change the taxes up?

I do more buying than selling but love the forum.seems folks set decent prices from the getgo and I see a lot of items sold for asking price. I sent $10 a week ago, not much but if those that like and use the forum would do the same it would be significant. However, folks that don’t pay their 3% need to be dealt with.