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Legal Shooting Light

Posted By: Jackson13

Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 03:27 PM

What exactly is the definition of legal shooting light? Seems like a huge gray area based on your ability to see.
Posted By: jlbuc10

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 03:43 PM

30 min before sunrise until sunset I believe.
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 03:52 PM

daylight hours for deer...
Posted By: Joe4majors

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 04:00 PM

Originally Posted By: BhamFred
daylight hours for deer...


So that would have been 6:50 AM until 5:21 PM yesterday for deer? Official sunrise to sunset?
Posted By: Remington270

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 04:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Joe4majors
Originally Posted By: BhamFred
daylight hours for deer...


So that would have been 6:50 AM until 5:21 PM yesterday for deer? Official sunrise to sunset?


There is no official time. It varies based on weather etc. at 5:21 you're still well within legal time, but Alabama is not like Mississippi in that there's no 30 min rule pre and post sunrise/set. It's a pretty good rule of thumb though.
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 04:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Joe4majors
Originally Posted By: BhamFred
daylight hours for deer...


So that would have been 6:50 AM until 5:21 PM yesterday for deer? Official sunrise to sunset?


no
Posted By: Joe4majors

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 04:12 PM

Originally Posted By: BhamFred
Originally Posted By: Joe4majors
Originally Posted By: BhamFred
daylight hours for deer...


So that would have been 6:50 AM until 5:21 PM yesterday for deer? Official sunrise to sunset?


no


I'm glad this is being addressed because 5:21 in a field looks a whole lot brighter than 5:21 deep in the woods.
Posted By: Joe4majors

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 04:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Remington270
Originally Posted By: Joe4majors
Originally Posted By: BhamFred
daylight hours for deer...


So that would have been 6:50 AM until 5:21 PM yesterday for deer? Official sunrise to sunset?


There is no official time. It varies based on weather etc. at 5:21 you're still well within legal time, but Alabama is not like Mississippi in that there's no 30 min rule pre and post sunrise/set. It's a pretty good rule of thumb though.


Thanks.
Posted By: Hunting-231

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 05:40 PM

I believe it has been said by some (I believe either a GW or a retired GW on this site) - that if you can't clearly read your hunting license without the aid of light, then it is too dark to be hunting.
Posted By: top cat

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 06:14 PM

If I can see.............then.................
Posted By: 2Dogs

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 06:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Hunting-231
I believe it has been said by some (I believe either a GW or a retired GW on this site) - that if you can't clearly read your hunting license without the aid of light, then it is too dark to be hunting.


shocked I can't read mine at high noon!
Posted By: deerkiller24

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 06:44 PM

I shoot 50mm scopes so from 6am till 5:40 pm im good.
Posted By: 2Dogs

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 06:58 PM

Originally Posted By: deerkiller24
I shoot 50mm scopes so from 6am till 5:40 pm im good.


5:40 around Dec 20 is pitch black.

The fact you are using a 50mm versus a smaller objective will only increase the light to your eye by 1-2%, that per a Leupold engineer, your eye can register 1-2%. It's the quality of the glass that does the real work letting light through.
Posted By: deerkiller24

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 07:23 PM

^^^ 2dogs forgot the JK at the end.
Posted By: westflgator

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 08:58 PM

Originally Posted By: top cat
If I can see.............then.................


So does that mean you can hunt half the night 4 or 5 days before the full moon when the moon is straight overhead at the time it would normally be dark? Because I you can see plain as day at that time on a clear day/night, especially with good optics.

I never understood the "until I can't see argument". Most of the time that is reasonable but there is a week or so every month which that definition won't work.
Posted By: Clem

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 09:10 PM

Quote:
I believe it has been said by some (I believe either a GW or a retired GW on this site) - that if you can't clearly read your hunting license without the aid of light, then it is too dark to be hunting.


Bullcrap.

Either set a definitive time or let everyone use common sense and decide on their own. But one person who may be half-blind telling me I have to leave because HE can't read a license ain't worth doodly-squat.

As B'ham Fred said, it says "daylight hours." Use common sense and decide for yourself.
Posted By: Zzzfog

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 09:11 PM

What is so damned hard about understanding "daylight hours only"? Not moonlight or starlight or flashlight or spotlight or headlight. DAYLIGHT hours only! Good grief.
Posted By: Clem

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 09:12 PM

Quote:
So does that mean you can hunt half the night 4 or 5 days before the full moon when the moon is straight overhead at the time it would normally be dark? Because I you can see plain as day at that time on a clear day/night, especially with good optics.


You can, but you shouldn't. Because common sense should tell you that it's nighttime and not "daylight hours" as the regs state.
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 09:14 PM

Originally Posted By: deerkiller24
I shoot 50mm scopes so from 6am till 5:40 pm im good.


ticket time at 5:40 crazy
Posted By: Clem

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 09:15 PM


Yesterday at 5:40 I could have seen clearly enough on an open field or road with a good scope to pull the trigger. In the woods? No.
Posted By: timbercruiser

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 09:17 PM

I ask an older game warden what time he quit hunting and he said, "when I can't see". He then clarified to say you can't use full moon type light to hunt.
Posted By: 3FFarms

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 09:18 PM

Why not said a SPECIFIC regulation for it? The dang gray areas are what get people in trouble. 30 mins prior thru 30 mins after is pretty cut and dry. Why is this not a reg?

With that said, has anyone reading this been ticketed, or know of anyone ticketed for hunting too early or too late? Not to be confused with hunting with the aid of a light.
Posted By: 3FFarms

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 09:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Clem

Yesterday at 5:40 I could have seen clearly enough on an open field or road with a good scope to pull the trigger. In the woods? No.



So under the current guidelines I could legally hunt in a field while you would be illegal if in the woods at the same time? Makes perfect sense. crazy
Posted By: Clem

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 09:44 PM

3FF, I agree. Clear as mud.

I hunt in woods and when I can't see well enough to feel comfortable w/ bow or gun, I leave. Walking out on the road to my truck, though, it's clear enough to hunt probably a good 10 minutes. If I were hunting the adjacent fields (which aren't ours, but if they were) then I could maybe have 15-20.

But I'd rather Joe Average Hunter use common sense to make that decision to leave than being mandated on a specific time. Have hunted in other states with specific times and it's clear enough to shoot at "ending time," and that sucks.
Posted By: Rocket62

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 10:46 PM

I will hunt as long as I can resolve objects thru my scope. I'm thankful to live in a state that allows me to make that decision myself
Posted By: Avengedsevenfold

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 10:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Rocket62
I will hunt as long as I can resolve objects thru my scope. I'm thankful to live in a state that allows me to make that decision myself


Damn right.

"He who has the biggest scope shall inherit the earth"
Posted By: Reaper

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 11:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Avengedsevenfold
Originally Posted By: Rocket62
I will hunt as long as I can resolve objects thru my scope. I'm thankful to live in a state that allows me to make that decision myself


Damn right.

"He who has the biggest scope shall inherit the earth"


lol
Posted By: Atoler

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 11:23 PM

IDK why some of yall are bitching about this law. Use common sense and it works out a whole lot better for everyone. I've never heard of anyone getting a ticket unless they were obviously hunting at night....
Posted By: burbank

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 11:30 PM

540 in December and 540 now are two different things.
Posted By: wmd

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/01/15 11:38 PM

This section of the Alabama Code sure makes it sound like sunset, which is a defined time, is the cutoff for end of legal shooting time. Is this not true, even if not enforced?

Alabama Code - Section 9-11-235: TAKING, ETC., OF PROTECTED BIRDS OR ANIMALS AT NIGHT; TAKING, ETC., OF RACCOONS OR OPOSSUMS AT NIGHT; TAKING OF FOXES AT NIGHT
It shall be unlawful, except as to trapping as otherwise provided by law, for a person to take, capture, or kill, or attempt to take, capture, or kill any bird or animal protected by the laws of this state between sunset and daylight of the following day, except that the Commissioner of Conservation and Natural Resources may by a duly promulgated regulation, allow the taking, catching, or killing of raccoons and opossums between sunset and daylight in any county or counties within the state. In any county where the taking, catching, or killing of raccoons and opossums is permitted during nighttime hours by regulations of the commissioner, the animals may only be legally taken with the use of a light and/or a shotgun using shot no larger than number eight, and the person or persons so hunting shall be accompanied by a dog or dogs and, if hunting on the lands of another, shall have the written permission of the landowner.
Posted By: Jackmcbrax

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/02/15 02:31 AM

If I can't make an ethical shot it is time to go to the truck.
Posted By: 2Dogs

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/02/15 06:18 AM

Originally Posted By: burbank
540 in December and 540 now are two different things.



thumbup Bout 5:15 around December 20 it's dark in the woods, time to go to the truck.
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/02/15 10:06 AM

we only do this thread bout five times a season.....
Posted By: shooters

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/02/15 10:28 AM

I thought , after the last discuss on this everyone new = ITs basicly Officers Discretion! What ever the GW decides on a case to case basis !
Posted By: goodman_hunter

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/02/15 10:34 AM

fred

to recieve a ticket for this, would a person just have to be sitting in the stand past the "time". or shoot past the 'time'. what is the criteria a gw would look for in order to write a ticket such as this.
( I know gw are diffrent and the descretion will vary some )
obvisouly shining a field with flashlight would probably do it, but what else
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: Legal Shooting Light - 02/02/15 12:26 PM

just sitting in the house past time would not of gotten a ticket from me. Add complaints of late shots from that area, loaded rifle, shining field, etc, might make a ticket.
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