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The other end of the curve

Posted By: CNC

The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 01:42 PM

For every Alabama buck over 140 inches, there is very likely one on the other end of the bell curve that won't even score 90 inches. Here is one such deer. Mature buck that weighed 202 lbs.

How many of guys have killed 200+ lb deer that didn't score 90 inches?

Posted By: LUMPY

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 01:49 PM

I killed one that scored 97"
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 01:58 PM

I killed a 195 lb 5 year old that scored less than 60. I've got one on camera right now that won't score 30.
Posted By: doekiller

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 02:08 PM

I killed a 195 lbs 5 year old that was a 6 that went maybe 70.
Posted By: AUdeerhunter

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 02:18 PM

I killed this 206 lb. buck last year. He only scored 102"
Posted By: Whild_Bill

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 02:20 PM

I think some folks get toocaught up with scoring. If its a buck you like, kill it
Posted By: daniel white

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 02:25 PM


Originally Posted By: Whild_Bill
I think some folks get toocaught up with scoring. If its a buck you like, kill it


Yea Cmon!!!
Posted By: CNC

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 02:43 PM

It seems to be slowly changing some but I think all the hype of big bucks on TV has really skewed people's perception as to what is realistic.

I don't guess I've ever scored this one but I'd say he'd be lucky to go much over 90 inches. A 4 1/2 year old....weight 197 lbs. There was another one with him that was nearly identical.

Posted By: Tambo252

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 02:54 PM

Originally Posted By: daniel white

Originally Posted By: Whild_Bill
I think some folks get toocaught up with scoring. If its a buck you like, kill it


Yea Cmon!!!


In the words of my Dad: "Shoot whatever makes you happy." smile
Posted By: Stob

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 03:00 PM

Nothing wrong with those bucks, awesome trophies.
I'll take those ANY day.
Posted By: CNC

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 03:02 PM

Just scored that last one out of curiosity and came up with roughly 95"...give or take.
Posted By: N2TRKYS

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 03:40 PM

Y'all got some bad genetics. laugh


Seriously, those are good deer.
Posted By: 3FFarms

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 03:48 PM

Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Y'all got some bad genetics.


Nope, I think that's the norm. If you're fortunate to hunt where it's not, consider yourself blessed. Most of our 200 lb deer are going to score 110-125. I would venture to say we probably have more 100+\-, 4 year ods than 140" 4 year olds. My son killed a 190lb deer over Thanksgiving. If he went 80", I'd be real surprised. I personally laid eyes on 3 bucks last year that were 225lbs plus. 5 year olds, no doubt. One was a four point and 2 were 6's. None of them would have broken 75"s.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 04:08 PM

Here are some dang pics for y'all to look through. These will be at the lower end of the bell curve.





Posted By: 3FFarms

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 04:13 PM

Someone hacked Brock's computer and posted pics!!!! grin
Thanks for posting Matt. Good to see you stick around. thumbup
Posted By: sj22

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 04:17 PM


Originally Posted By: daniel white

Originally Posted By: Whild_Bill
I think some folks get toocaught up with scoring. If its a buck you like, kill it


Yea Cmon!!!

X2
Posted By: extreme heights hunter

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 04:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Matt Brock
Here are some dang pics for y'all to look through. These will be at the lower end of the bell curve.





for some reason I always thought you were much older. like 60+ not sure why, I just did
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 04:43 PM

Well dang. Never been told that. I'm about half of 60. laugh
Posted By: wmd

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 05:00 PM

I killed one that field dressed 165 lbs that might hit 70" and couple more that are probably 85-90".
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 05:07 PM

I killed several six and seven year old bucks on my place at Leeds that scored 100-110", big bodied 180-210 pound OLD bucks. We had a bad six point genetic line there as well. Great BIG six pointers. And then we had those nice BIG ten point genetics too to make it worthwhile....
Posted By: Jwbfx4

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 05:24 PM

I shot an 8 that weighed 203 and aged at 5. I think he scored 87".
Posted By: Hogwild

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 05:32 PM

Never felt a need to score this old brute.....220lb and only 6 pts.



But, there was no doubt he was a shooter when he stepped out! smile
Older definitely does not equal higher-scoring in all cases!
Posted By: MS_Hunter

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 05:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Whild_Bill
I think some folks get toocaught up with scoring. If its a buck you like, kill it




EXACTLY!!!!!!!
Posted By: rackdisaster

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 05:35 PM

People gotta learn. That shlit on TV aint real!!! Nothing on TV is real. It's all about the money and trying to hold your attention so that you will spend your money with them, their sponsors, etc. Get real!!
Posted By: Squeaky

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 05:49 PM

Here are a few. They score a bit over 90" but under 120"

235 lbs live weight



230 lbs live weight and at least 7.5 years old.



Under 90" & 200 lb but late Jan. 5.5+ year old.



Under 90" and 225 lb another 5.5+ buck


100" and 205 lb and 5+

Posted By: Fun4all

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 05:56 PM

WOW!! It sounds like reality in beginning to seep in!

Carry on.
Posted By: Fireman12

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 06:26 PM

Oldest and heaviest deer I've ever killed scored the least. 6.5 yo 5 point that didn't even go 60 inches. 215 live weight

Just as proud of him as my best scorer. He's the skullmount on the left.
Posted By: CNC

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 07:08 PM

Deer on the back left is….was a 4 ½ year old. Scores around 95-100”. Never saw that big spike again. Would have been interesting to see what he would have turned into. Very likely about 80-90 inches I’m guessing. grin

Posted By: CNC

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 07:27 PM

Here's another one. This deer was never killed but he looks to have a little age on him. Doesn't even come close to 90 inches.

Posted By: JD_Bowhunter1976

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 07:29 PM

Matt since you have broke the ice on picture posting. Quit sandbagging and let's us see what's on your wall. laugh
Posted By: 2Dogs

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 09:01 PM

I'll play. My son shot these two a couple years ago. Top buck aged at 7.5 YO, bottom is a clean 10 pt aged at 4.5 YO. Both weighed 165-170 field dressed. Both were aged by a cementum annuli lab.

OOPs, I didn't read close enough, these are over 90" but not much, and a long way from 140"

Posted By: FurFlyin

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 09:04 PM

I saw a 3.5 year old spike killed in Beatrice AL on a school hunt that had 4" long spikes. Deer weighed about 150 lbs live weight.
Posted By: auburn17

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 09:18 PM

Originally Posted By: JD_Bowhunter1976
Matt since you have broke the ice on picture posting. Quit sandbagging and let's us see what's on your wall. laugh


That probably wont happen and I don't blame him a bit.
Posted By: timbercruiser

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 09:42 PM

I"ve hunted in a lot of clubs with all kinds of dang fool rules, and at the end of the day they didn't make a damn bit of difference to the deer herd. Main thing they did was start arguments and in some cases start hard feelings. I have more fun now hunting with my grandson on my land where we shoot anything we want to and just have a good time.
Posted By: T-town

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 09:57 PM

I wind up seeing that end of the curve way more often than the great end.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/20/14 10:19 PM

Originally Posted By: JD_Bowhunter1976
Matt since you have broke the ice on picture posting. Quit sandbagging and let's us see what's on your wall. laugh


I'll show you pics of my duck and turkey mounts. Got two squirrels mounted too. I've already showed you my deer. Look in the above post. whistle
Posted By: CNC

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/21/14 09:52 AM

Here's one you would probably never guess to be an older deer but it is.....I've seen him for several years now and it amazes me every time he shows back up.

http://www.qdma.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61839

Posted By: hawgwild

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/21/14 02:05 PM

Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
I'll play. My son shot these two a couple years ago. Top buck aged at 7.5 YO, bottom is a clean 10 pt aged at 4.5 YO. Both weighed 165-170 field dressed. Both were aged by a cementum annuli lab.

OOPs, I didn't read close enough, these are over 90" but not much, and a long way from 140"

That top one is a beast
Posted By: JUGHEAD

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/21/14 02:36 PM

I've killed several. Seems all I can kill is the lower end of the bell curve on mature bucks lately, but I'll take em! It kinda tickles me to death to not have to pay for shoulder mounts just to be honest. laugh

Here is the latest one from last year. No idea what he scores but it aint much. Weighed 168# dressed:



One from a couple of season ago that was prolly the biggest bodied deer I have ever killed in Bama but didnt get a weight cause I didnt find him til a week later. He was a dadgum hoss. Again, no idea on the score but not much at all:



I'll try to post some more when I can get off this phone and to a computer.
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/21/14 03:11 PM

here's a seven year old seven pointer, 225# live, maybe scores 110. Dang fine old warrior....
Posted By: JW

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/21/14 03:20 PM

I'd say the lower scores on the mature deer are probably closer to the norm. I agree score ain't everything, but it sure is nice seeing y'all let these deer have at least a chance to turn into something with age. Well done in my opinion.
Posted By: Cuz-Pat

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/21/14 04:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Matt Brock
I've already showed you my deer.


rolleyes grin thumbup
Posted By: Ben2

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/21/14 06:43 PM

Posted By: Fuzzy_Bunny

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/21/14 10:30 PM

I killed a 202 lb spike in Brundidge about 10 years ago.
Posted By: semperfi10463

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/21/14 11:22 PM

ive never seen a bad one.
Posted By: mirage243

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/22/14 10:17 AM

Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
I"ve hunted in a lot of clubs with all kinds of dang fool rules, and at the end of the day they didn't make a damn bit of difference to the deer herd. Main thing they did was start arguments and in some cases start hard feelings. I have more fun now hunting with my grandson on my land where we shoot anything we want to and just have a good time.


I disagree, it does make a difference in the deer herd, if you kill the young ones, they'll never turn into mature ones. There should be clubs like you are in that allow anything, and there should be clubs where rules are in place to help members be able to kill mature deer. Glad you found the type of club your looking for.
Posted By: mike35549

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/22/14 10:50 AM

Everyone I have ever killed has been on this end of the curve.
Posted By: Thisldu

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/22/14 11:52 AM

Originally Posted By: BhamFred
I killed several six and seven year old bucks on my place at Leeds that scored 100-110", big bodied 180-210 pound OLD bucks. We had a bad six point genetic line there as well. Great BIG six pointers. And then we had those nice BIG ten point genetics too to make it worthwhile....


We have several of those big six points in the area I hunt. They are 6 points every year, we let let get over 200 pounds then it's game on.

I love a big ol six point.
Posted By: tsmith

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/22/14 12:47 PM

203lb 7 Point. I shot this deer with my bow, found blood but never found the deer. A couple of weeks later he strolled out onto a greenfield and I put him down with the .308. He had a perfect 2" vertical scar on his upper leg where the rage broadhead passed through. You can actually see the scar in the photo. This was the first racked buck I ever shot at with a bow.



This is him the year prior.
Posted By: scrape

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/22/14 07:08 PM



small racked 8 that went over 200
Posted By: scrubbuck

Re: The other end of the curve - 12/22/14 10:01 PM

Here are a couple that were 5 1/2. Both of these come from central Al in areas that have produced great deer. This first one died about a month ago.



This one didn't weigh but about 150 lbs and scored about 113, but was aged at 5 1/2.
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