Reed’s to stop processing deer (Clanton)

Hate to hear this. I’ve been using them for 20 years.
From their FB page -

https://www.outdooralabama.com/transfer-possession

Chuck's grand gamecheck unveiling has been an embarrassing disaster for him so he figures if he adds one more complicated regulation to the process that it will magically make his gamecheck baby not look so bad. Us regular folks didn't listen to the "experts" enough so we get punished with another needless regulation.

I’ll be processing my own this year. I was already considering it just because of the cost to have it done. This just solidified that decision.

GA & FL already do this.

Well gosh! Let's run out and be like Georgia and Florida, by all means!

Maybe im naive but I really dont see the big issue. Its 2 extra lines on the sheet you already fill out at the processor / Taxidermist. Game warden can check to make sure numbers match up.
So long as they are not holding the processors liable for false information im not sure where their job gets changed at all.

God forbid we do anything to record legal harvesting of a deer in this state.

That was the way I understood it, but the way everybody is acting there must be more to it.

Sooo if they're still weighing the decision, then why make the post?

Its prolly more about tax revenue than deer numbers.

IF...IF...I even kill another deer, due to these regulations and trying to make the processors police everyone, I’ll just cut out back straps and make hams/roasts out of the rest. I have no desire to have things ground into this or that and I won’t fool with the political crap.

Pretty amazing, isn't it?

Something being preached and mandated "that will help hunters!" is harming legitimate businesses and making hunters so pissed of that they're changing the way they do things.

People are tired of being micro managed.

What happened to the other deer processor closing down thread?

In the General Forum.

This isn't about "recording the legal 'harvesting' of a deer in this state."

It's about forcing private businesses to do the work of and serve as agents of a state agency. It's about hunters in the last 15 years being micromanaged, told what to do with minimal if any explanation other than "just do it, we know best" follwed by pissy public statements about why no one's following the rules. It's about added fees and regulations from supposedly conservative politicians and appointees taking the tack of liberal progressives.

Taken strictly on its face, this "possession-transfer" regulation means that if you give your grandmother a hindquarter, you have to give her the information the department mandates. No one can or should say "Oh, but that's different an you know know it" because it's not. If I have to fill out bulldoodoo transfer confirmation crap to get a processor to cut up a nanny, you have to do the same stuff to give your deer to Granny.

Some of y'all who continue to say "Oh, it's just $15 so you should pay it or quit hunting" or "Just fill out the form, it's not a big deal or an imposition" are going to rue the day in the future when you wake up and realize the amount of crap you have to do to hunt a deer on your own land. When the "No one needs more than one buck!" adherents finally get their way, you'll be pissed about 10 years later when you're still seeing the same spindly 8-pointers, just like how we're not seeing more mature "giants!" 15 years after the 3-buck limit was rammed through to appease a small, vocal group,

But that''s fine. Continue down the path of rolling over when more regulations, fees and laws are imposed.

I agree with you 100%!!!!

So, here's my slightly knowledgeable long 2 cents worth... The problem with it is a couple things. 1) Being an anti-establishment Libertarian myself, it is most certainly moving into stronger government overreach. 2) There is not always cell service and many of my customers at Shana's Place do not even have a smart phone, and the ap crashes every cold January weekend night. ADCNR says their fix for this is to a)go to a kiosk, or b) call the office and get the game check number {of which I asked if they would have phone clerks available on sunday nights, christmas eve, or even the lovely paid state holidays. lol} and 3) It is not the processor's responsibility to enforce their regulations in order to protect ourselves. This will cause for longER lines on a busy nights, leading to deer being dumped in the local ditches and never truly giving the DCNR what they are after. I get that they need more accurate numbers! I believe it is because the old school 'ethical local hunters' are outnumbered. There are big money, big city folks killing all they see, never taking into consideration management, and then they donate the meat but keep the cape and antlers... there's the root of the problem! A better thought out way to handle this would be to a)give the processor the same 48 hours to get the numbers from the hunter so that they can at least take the carcass and get it in the cooler! or b)GIVE tags with every hunting license purchase, if you need more tags go to a kiosk. Chuck says that would be too expensive, though. I tried to post about this here over a month ago, it was denied. I was searching for anyone that could go to the board of directors meeting in Mobile and voice our opinions to get this changed. If folks just sit at home and complain, they must accept what they are given. A processor that is quitting is taking a stand against it in their own way. I am taking a stand against it in my own way. GA put this BS out real quick, but will enough Alabamians take a stand?

This year will be a test run. Next year every processor will have to buy a "license" to become an officer of the state and face severe penalties for noncompliance.

Y’all just do as Little Napoleon Chuck says. It pleases The Crown.
SMDH

I talked to the lady at Reeds last Monday - she was beside herself - but had great points - imagine taking in 50-75 deer and then adding the amount of time it would take to record the numbers from hunters who could barely register the dang thing, much less go back and find the number once they did. I had already decided to use a processor in Montgomery this year but now realize its too much trouble to fill out paperwork to have my BIL transport it (he drives right by it on his way home from hunting) and then give the info to them. Ill just go back to the good ole days where we process it ourselves and separate it into "fry meat" and "stew meat". I hate it for the true Deer Processors that will lose business because of this. Reeds will be okay as long as the beef and pork keep rolling in like it is. The waiting list at most places is several months.

Clem is dead on about the whole issue!!

Just wait. This year it's a simple "required to record".
Next year they'll begin issuing fines to the processor for not doing the state's job for them.

Or arrest a processor for possessing deer without a confirmation number.

Or even better, they'll take all the "contraband" deer from the processor and leave hunters without their meat and the processor in the sh*t with everyone.

"Well, you should've complied with us. We told you to do our job for us."

Some of you are trying to turn this into a political or it's my land and I can do what I want to wildlife thing. The wildlife belongs to the state. This is nothing more than several hunters in our state not obeying the 3 buck rule and this is one way to catch or keep hunters from violating the rules. unless you process yourself of course, but the state figures most hunters won't do that. so all you guys saying well I guess I will be processing them myself, you're telling on yourselves!

Yeah keep telling yourself that. And give a vote to Biden too.

Belongs to the STATE? 🤔

Oh yeah, and SCREW THAT 3 BUCK bulldoodoo.

Yep

I wish the state would come get their deer off my land.

Ok, so because I noticed the obvious, I’m a Biden supporter? Just so you know, I’m apart of the silent majority!

Yep, how do you think they can regulate it? I’m sure there is a bunch of folks on here including myself Will help you remove deer off your property. You don’t see the state regulating the fish in your private pond do you?

horseshitt, it has nothing to do with the 3 buck limit.

Exactly what i was thinking Troy................

State dont own the deer, they just manage them. The wildlife doctrine or something like that is what MBrock enlightened us with earlier this year. If he's looking I'm sure he could point us in the right direction.

Careful, old man, you're telling on yourself!

I will just give the prpcessor the # and keep them in business.

If it pleases the crown

Thumbnail version. According to the Public Trust Doctrine, Wildlife is owned by the people (beneficiaries) and the trustees (those with the responsibility to manage the resource) is the state wildlife agencies.

I forsee alot of deboned "out of state" deer ahowing up at the processors this year.

Thank you.

I kill a couple every year for my non hunting neighbor. I drop them at the processor in his name and he picks them up and takes them to work to feed the fire station where he works. I guess this year I'm going to have to tell him to go buy him a license and game check them himself.
Way to go chucky. Now you are taking food right out of our first responders mouths.

According to some, Alabama was in the dark ages in regard to informing The Man about taking The Man's animals unlike other states with check-reporting systems.

So if you have a deboned deer, meat or a carcass from another state where checking is required you would, if being legal, also have a confirmation number from that state to provide.

While I think the processor requirement is horsecrap, just saying "it's from another state" won't hold up if that "other state" has a check system, confirmation numbers and so forth. Bringing a game animal across state lines in violation of a state's laws/regs would be, potentially, a federal Lacey Act violation should The Man want to get really serious about it.

But with just a $50 fine here in Alabama for not checking a deer, it's not even a bother. That's like flicking away a mosquito. Scary penalty, no teeth.

Buzzards gone eat good in this state this year then. Lots of folks won't be adhering to this.

I’m aware of a guy who once tried to claim a deer he killed was from another state. After he was unable to produce a license for that state Lacey Act violations were brought up because the deer would have crossed state lines illegally. If that’s an excuse someone is willing to stick with they better dang be prepared for the consequences of “that’s my story I’m sticking to it.”

ADCNR is doing a facebook live video this coming Tuesday at 10:30am to answer questions if you'd like to watch it. I will post a link to it on my business facebook page "Shana's Place" I have been asked to send them a list of questions that would be helpful to answer publicly. I have gathered all the questions from here, but if you have anything you'd like me to request an answer for, please let me know...comment here, email me shanasplace1@gmail.com or call me 334-202-9545. What they are doing to us processors is absolutely not right! Using us as an enforcement funnel! They say the deer population numbers are declining! I will post the dates of the next board meeting, should be end of Jan/first of Feb. That is where we can get together and have our voice heard.

Deer numbers are declining? Seriously, they said that to y'all?

I think there declining because of DOE A DAY

We should go to 3 bucks 2 does a season

You have every opportunity to shoot 3 bucks and 2 does a season by your own choice.

Do you need the government to tell you that?

I had a processor tell me today that he could be fined $1500 for a unpapered deer in his facility. No idea if that is true.

THE ADCNR WILL TELL YOU IT IS UP TO THE ENFORCEMENT AGENT IN EACH DIFFERENT AREA AND WHAT THE JUDGE DECIDES IN COURT

Amen. Thank you Clem. I'll continue shooting all the does I need for my family.

I personally know 3 men who have no internet, no smart phone and not even cable TV.
What exactly are those guys supposed to do about getting a deer processed?

Lecturing a retired "enforcement agent" (AKA Game Warden) on the ADCNR .

the amount of any fine has nothing to do with the "ENFORCEMENT AGENT"

But the decision to cite, or not cite, does. 😉

What a bunch of damn dumbasses

Just like hunters are declining. Just because you can't quantify the number with license sales doesn't mean there's a decline.