Small acerage problems.

Here at the house I plant a couple acres of green fields and have a couple feeders out year around. There have never been many deer here but the last several years the numbers have been increasing and have been seeing deer pretty regular. I don't ever hunt here but have built a cpl shooting houses in preparation of hunting with my two young grandchildren. To have a place we could go for short durations and have a chance for them to actually see a deer and maybe shoot one. When the season started I had 6 does 4 fawns, and 3 small bucks that was showing up on a regular basis. They have all slowly disappeared as the season has progressed. The only ones I have seen or got a pic of the last two weeks is 2 fawns. I have a neighbor that moved here couple years ago bought 17 acres and acts like he has 1,700. This season he was selling doe hunts for $125. I have no ideal what kind of person pays $125 to go hunt 17 acres and shoot a doe but they exsist. I don't have a problem with a guy killing deer on his own land, but why do they have to try and kill them all. On these small properties the ability to hunt over corn has just exasperated this problem. These properties are partly cut off by an interstate on one side so that don't help either. In my opinion people that hunt small parcels of land and try there best to kill every deer that is legally allowed are just greedy and inconsiderate of the people that live and hunt next to them, or just ignorant on the reproduction cycle of whitetail deer. I know a lot of people won't agree but I don't care. Just wanted to rant.

The same guy will wonder why he don't have any deer next year. Dead deer don't grow

It’s not just where you hunt trust me.

Does this guy advertise online anywhere?

"Does this guy advertise online anywhere?"

Asking for a friend??

I believe I saw a idiot on Facebook offering hunts like that.

Just made Facebook posts advertising the hunts back at the beginning of the season

I don't hunt here just have 40 acres at the house. If this was the only place I had to hunt I would just crappie fish all winter, or buy me a squirrel dog.

I feel you....
Just gotta live with it or join in.
These small lots will kill deer every year imo.
You’d think deer would wise up but they don’t.
We give deer too much credit, if you put out corn eventually they’ll come to it.

I think a lot of folks hear headlines or talking points about how deer are "overpopulated", with deer-vehicle collisions being used as the main evidence, and assume it's like that everywhere. I think a lot of people really don't understand that deer numbers can vary greatly from one area to the next, even on a very local scale when you consider a specific property's habitat. The short version....is that people are stupid. People are also, in many cases, selfish asswhipes. Bad things happen when they're both of those things at the same time.

Glad you have other places to hunt. I think I'd have to move if it was my only place.

Right up untill somebody kills them all. I couldn't figure out why they wasnt using my feeder anymore so i put about 1/2 a bucket of corn on the ground a little further in the woods 2 weeks ago and it is still there.

Moving is not an option. Just have to lease some land where there are deer.

Just wanted to see the advertisement. Selling hunts on 17 acres is amazing to me. I just dont know how people buy into that. Apparently there are people who dont care.

If he's getting $125 for a doe, I'm gonna be that idiot next year.

They are still there mine around the house do the same thing. Set ur clock by them when it ain’t deer season. They move all around those small area. One week here then another there. He’s still a dumbass and I have one just like him next to me.

I know a couple places about 10acres I'd pay to hunt but there's a lot of woods around it...the guy kills studs every year

Some places around liberty Park and lake purdy come to mind as places I would pay to hunt

Just let me know the next doe that gets hit and not mangled up. Picked up a huge 5pt in Suttle last night that had just been hit. Broke hit skull plate on one side there was no blood shot meat at all.

Mike it definately sucks and the guy doing it is definately wrong for doing it but theres not much you can do about it. You might want to check the laws out on what hes doing. It may be different if theres no fence but I know you have to have a pretty expensive liscense to let people hunt pen deer on your property. If hes charging people and not jumping through the necessary hoops there could be some kind of legal recourse but I guess it would have to be initiated by the state.

I am sure the guy is an overall good guy, I would not go that route even if I could. Just wanted to vent a little a guess.

I understand.

WHASB

We all have different ideas of how to hunt and how to use our properties. Unless he is breaking laws not much you can do. I have a feeder behind my house and I have never killed a deer at it. Several nice bucks have been there over the years, and although I could legally shoot one now I don't think I ever will, I just enjoy seeing them out my window. I have a neighbor who bought 20 acres and pours corn out like crazy now. Lives out of state. He bought this for his hunting camp. He will show up with 3 or 4 buddies, and they will shoot like WW3 for the weekend put out a ton of corn and leave. Come back two weeks later and do it again. I don't like it one bit but the corn law has made it much easier for him to attract and kill many deer.

jwalker77 what laws would the guy be in violation of? Selling day hunts are no different than leasing or sub-leasing.

Im not sure about it if theres no fence. If you have deer in a fence and you are allowing pepole to kill them for money, you have to have a liscense. This is about 10yr old info I got from a fellow who raised orphan deer. He said there were three liscenses 1) to raise orphaned deer, the only way he could get rid of a deer was kill it and eat it, couldnt give them away or let them go. 2) to raise and sell deer, this was much more expensive 3) raise deer or buy and sell deer for the purpose of hunting and killing them, this is the most expensive of the three. I have not spoken to anyone besides him but he wasnt a liar and I had noreason to doubt him. There are others on here who would know for sure about the laws. I do know a game warden visited my friend twice a year to make sure the deer he had were taken care of and the rules were being followed. He said they were pretty serious about it.

most of this info is dead wrong.....that long ago there was no statewide rehab license, and you had to raise and release into the wild ALL of the animals you rehabbed. There was no license fee at that time. #2 and #3 are the same as far as licenses are concerned

it's not illegal to sell day hunts on any unfenced land, no restriction of acerage.

Is it earned income/revenue, and does it have to be reported on taxes of federal, state, city/county?
Would it be considered a business in the city/county he resides in?

Although the original poster wrote he didn't want to go this route.

God Bless,
David B.

This scenario is one of the reasons the State's one size fits all management strategy sucks. The small landowner is basically at the mercy of their neighbors due to the liberal doe limits.

And so is the big landowner who has a 20 acre shoot em up neighbor that shoots all the young bucks.

It works both ways. I have more problems with the neighbors - 8 guys hunting on 200 acres that think they can kill 32 bucks per season. That's the flip side of this.

One dude one time told me he shot 23 deer... "mostly spikes". Breaking the law obviously. He thought he was The Buckmaster. Super proud.

And I thought hail... there's something to that. You gotta really work to find and shoot 23 spikes on 75 acres. He had his stands all up and down the property lines...

I stand corrected, I was just reporting what I was told, BhamFred mod know better than me.

I just heard reliable info that somebody at our local project housing shot one yesterday evening. I heard the shot and wondered where exactly it came from. Idk how the Hell thats not illegal?