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New Florida Rule

Posted By: fladeerhntr

New Florida Rule - 12/15/19 07:50 PM

Just wanted to see what opinions were on the new rules as to why they did it the way they did. This year for the first time we are limited to 5 deer total for the year 3 bucks and 2 does and we also have to call-in what we kill when we kill it. This doesn't really bother me since I'm not one til kill big numbers of deer each year since on average I only usually get 1 or 2 a year and my wife might get 1 also. During the doe days we are given 2 days at the time only on certain weekends depending on if you are hunting north or south of I-10 depends on how many weekends you can kill does. The thing I dont understand about all this is if they are going to limit the number of does we can kill and have to call them in why not open up the whole season to kill does and give the hunter the choice when they wanna kill them. If someone wants to kill all of their does with their crossbow during bow season what it is hurting or if someone wants to shoot their 2 opening morning of rifle season and buck hunt the rest of the year.
Posted By: centralala

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/15/19 08:23 PM

Well, that would make too much sense. I wish Alabama would adopt a 3 buck limit.
Posted By: Atoler

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/15/19 09:29 PM

Because by limiting the days, they are limiting the harvest much more than a 2 doe limit ever will.
Posted By: G/H

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/15/19 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by centralala
Well, that would make too much sense. I wish Alabama would adopt a 3 buck limit.

🤔 Thought we did
Posted By: fladeerhntr

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/15/19 09:33 PM

That's about what I was thinking and in my opinion it should be 3 does and 2 bucks. If it's like everything else the people making the rules probably dont even hunt. About the only thing this new rule has dont here in florida is make the sales of meat grinders and cubers go way up so people just process them theirselves and dont have to report anything since the major processors require a confirmation number from where it was reported to FWC before they will process it.
Posted By: centralala

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/15/19 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by G/H
Originally Posted by centralala
Well, that would make too much sense. I wish Alabama would adopt a 3 buck limit.

🤔 Thought we did


We have a 3 antlered buck limit. If I do my math right, we can legally kill 121 bucks per season but only 3 may have antlers. I would like a 3 buck limit whether it has antlers or not.
Posted By: foghorn

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/15/19 09:57 PM

slap
Posted By: marshmud991

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/15/19 11:21 PM

ya
Originally Posted by centralala
Originally Posted by G/H
Originally Posted by centralala
Well, that would make too much sense. I wish Alabama would adopt a 3 buck limit.

🤔 Thought we did


We have a 3 antlered buck limit. If I do my math right, we can legally kill 121 bucks per season but only 3 may have antlers. I would like a 3 buck limit whether it has antlers or not.

HUH?
Posted By: hunterbuck

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/15/19 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by marshmud991
ya
Originally Posted by centralala
Originally Posted by G/H
Originally Posted by centralala
Well, that would make too much sense. I wish Alabama would adopt a 3 buck limit.

🤔 Thought we did


We have a 3 antlered buck limit. If I do my math right, we can legally kill 121 bucks per season but only 3 may have antlers. I would like a 3 buck limit whether it has antlers or not.

HUH?


He's discussing counting button bucks as one of your bucks....not as an "unantlered" deer.
Posted By: marshmud991

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/15/19 11:47 PM

Ah ok. Well then I agree with him.
Posted By: centralala

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/16/19 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by marshmud991
Ah ok. Well then I agree with him.


Yea, I really don't care about the buck limit number. 1, 3, or 15 I don't care. But if someone shoots, oh let's say a spotted fawn and it is a buck, it should count toward your buck limit. After all, it is a buck.
Posted By: Out back

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/16/19 12:06 AM

I read this and tried to care. But it's Florida, so I can't make myself give a schit.
Posted By: Peach

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/16/19 02:00 AM

I killed a nice buck this afternoon in Florida. Had to record it on a piece of paper before I moved the deer and am still trying to get the app on my phone so I can register the deer. I'm getting too old for all this!!
Posted By: Peach

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/16/19 02:02 AM

I think we can kill five bucks in Florida. If you kill two does then you only have three bucks. Five deer total unless your club is under the doe management program. Then you get a certain number of tags as always.
Posted By: Remington270

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/16/19 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by Atoler
Because by limiting the days, they are limiting the harvest much more than a 2 doe limit ever will.


Winner....
Posted By: fladeerhntr

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/16/19 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by Peach
I killed a nice buck this afternoon in Florida. Had to record it on a piece of paper before I moved the deer and am still trying to get the app on my phone so I can register the deer. I'm getting too old for all this!!



If your having that much trouble getting the app just call the number and report it then you wont have to do anything but record it on the piece of paper that we are supposed to be carrying with us while hunting and recording our kills on. The place to call a kill in at is only open from 8Am-8PM but you have 24 hours after you recover it to call it in.
Posted By: WmHunter

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/16/19 03:08 AM

Originally Posted by centralala
Originally Posted by G/H
Originally Posted by centralala
Well, that would make too much sense. I wish Alabama would adopt a 3 buck limit.

🤔 Thought we did


We have a 3 antlered buck limit. If I do my math right, we can legally kill 121 bucks per season but only 3 may have antlers. I would like a 3 buck limit whether it has antlers or not.


Totally agree with you.

That crazy fawn rule has completely done away with buck limits.
Posted By: ghost rabbit

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/16/19 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by WmHunter
Originally Posted by centralala
Originally Posted by G/H
Originally Posted by centralala
Well, that would make too much sense. I wish Alabama would adopt a 3 buck limit.

🤔 Thought we did


We have a 3 antlered buck limit. If I do my math right, we can legally kill 121 bucks per season but only 3 may have antlers. I would like a 3 buck limit whether it has antlers or not.


Totally agree with you.

That crazy fawn rule has completely done away with buck limits.



I don't see how, if you're shooting this years fawns with spots or waiting until they loose them you still don't know if its a buck or a doe. Its not like antlers sprout out the second the spots come off. Its normally towards the end of season before you can start seeing knobs and thats only if its real close where you can see it. I can't see it really changing much and could care less if they shoot them with spots or fresh out of them. Really a non factor if you ask me.
Posted By: Peach

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/16/19 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by fladeerhntr
Originally Posted by Peach
I killed a nice buck this afternoon in Florida. Had to record it on a piece of paper before I moved the deer and am still trying to get the app on my phone so I can register the deer. I'm getting too old for all this!!



If your having that much trouble getting the app just call the number and report it then you wont have to do anything but record it on the piece of paper that we are supposed to be carrying with us while hunting and recording our kills on. The place to call a kill in at is only open from 8Am-8PM but you have 24 hours after you recover it to call it in.

Thanks! I tried calling it in but it was too late. I registered the buck online but will probably still get the app.
Posted By: WmHunter

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/16/19 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by ghost rabbit


I don't see how, if you're shooting this years fawns with spots or waiting until they loose them you still don't know if its a buck or a doe. Its not like antlers sprout out the second the spots come off. Its normally towards the end of season before you can start seeing knobs and thats only if its real close where you can see it. I can't see it really changing much and could care less if they shoot them with spots or fresh out of them. Really a non factor if you ask me.


Your response is nonsensical gibberish.

Simple fact: a buck fawn is a MALE DEER known as a "buck."

Bottom line fact: there are now no limits on how many male buck deer that a hunter can kill each year in Alabama.



Posted By: charlie

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/16/19 09:40 PM

There has never been a limit on young male deer without bare antler visible. At least not in the last 40 or so years.
Posted By: centralala

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/16/19 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by charlie
There has never been a limit on young male deer without bare antler visible. At least not in the last 40 or so years.


There has always been a limit on unaltered male deer.
Posted By: charlie

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/16/19 10:56 PM

No. It's always been antlered and antlerless.
Posted By: charlie

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/16/19 11:00 PM

This is last year's regs.


DEER
ANTLERED BUCKS are defined as those male deer with bare antlers visible above natural
hairline.
UNANTLERED DEER are defined as all deer without bony antlers visible above the natural
hairline.
Posted By: centralala

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/16/19 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by charlie
This is last year's regs.


DEER
ANTLERED BUCKS are defined as those male deer with bare antlers visible above natural
hairline.
UNANTLERED DEER are defined as all deer without bony antlers visible above the natural
hairline.


Yes, and there is a limit of one per day unantlered. You said there was no limit. There has always been a limit.
Posted By: charlie

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/16/19 11:13 PM

The conversation was about a yearly limit not daily limit.
Posted By: centralala

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/16/19 11:16 PM

Yearly limit is 118 antlerless deer and 3 antlered. You said there has never been a limit. There has always been a limit.
Posted By: charlie

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/16/19 11:22 PM

Ok, if you want to play the smartass game then you were wrong as well. There has not always been a limit. I am not going to look up the 1800s game laws but I feel certain there was no limit in those years. If there was we can go back as far as you like.
Posted By: centralala

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/16/19 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by charlie
Ok, if you want to play the smartass game then you were wrong as well. There has not always been a limit. I am not going to look up the 1800s game laws but I feel certain there was no limit in those years. If there was we can go back as far as you like.

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As a matter of fact I have a book right here on the 1800's

1803 firehunting and Sunday hunting became prohibited
1854 seasons set for Mobile, Baldwin, and Washington Co.
And it goes on and on from there. First mention CHANGING limits on 1907. One buck a day, no does, from Nov. 1 thru Dec. 31.
Posted By: ghost rabbit

Re: New Florida Rule - 12/17/19 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by WmHunter
Originally Posted by ghost rabbit


I don't see how, if you're shooting this years fawns with spots or waiting until they loose them you still don't know if its a buck or a doe. Its not like antlers sprout out the second the spots come off. Its normally towards the end of season before you can start seeing knobs and thats only if its real close where you can see it. I can't see it really changing much and could care less if they shoot them with spots or fresh out of them. Really a non factor if you ask me.


Your response is nonsensical gibberish.

Simple fact: a buck fawn is a MALE DEER known as a "buck."

Bottom line fact: there are now no limits on how many male buck deer that a hunter can kill each year in Alabama.





Your understanding is whats non sense. The spotted fawn law changed nothing about being able to identify a fawn buck or the amount that can be killed. A fawn buck without antlers from what I've known has always been able to have been killed and not counted as an antlered buck. The fact that it can now be killed with spots rather than after it looses them means nothing. The ONLY change is if you you want to shoot a this years fawn you can now do it when it has spots instead of waiting until they're gone. Really for many it will only affect bow hunters anyways. The fawns on many areas have lost their spots by gun season. I know the ones we saw this year on the youth hunt had already lost them. The opportunity it even created period is a non issue much less how its going to play out.
Fact: spots or not if you're shooting this current years fawns you don't knon if its a buck or doe whether it has spots or not.
Fact: bucks with no antlers have not counted in the buck limit before this law so nothing has changed in that regards.

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