It's time for the annual not selected for SOA thre

Got the email early again. 0/39 with 2 preference points. Enjoy the hunt if you get selected. My wma license is paying for it.

I got mine too. I've registered for several years now and only got one preference point.

It'll all be over but the crying at 2:15 today.

Dr. B

The email that went out this morning was a glitch. Registration stays open till 1pm today and drawing is at 2:15pm.

Not selected with 2 points

That makes you confident in the selection process lol.

The same thing happened last year and I still got selected so yeah, I'm pretty confident in it.

Myself and two other guys have received our rejection email. However, one guy I know hasn't received an email.......interesting.

I have not received an email but I logged in and I was not selected for anything.

I have not received an email yet. If I get picked great, if I don’t life goes on and I will try again next year. Good luck to all in getting picked and to having a great hunt on the SOA properties.

The selections are not made until 2:15 PM this afternoon. The emails everyone received this morning are supposed to be a glitch in the system.

The emails received this morning should be for folks that registered for the Stimpson hunt. Glitch.

I haven’t received email yet still holding out hope. If not oh well try again next year.

20 more minutes........

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5.......hitting refresh button on email now

Its on the registration page now.... Not Selected

No selections for me.

spewing profanity now.....not selected

No email guess I will log on to check if I can remember how to do it.

Anyone know where Fred T Simpson is?

I got Stimpson 01/30/19

Clarke county near Jackson, AL

Just got email. Not selected again this year. Oh well maybe next year

Thanks,

Fred T Simpson Archery 12/26/19

Not selected damn it

Congratulations. Your blinky envelope will stay on forever now.

Who is your buddy with the DNR? We all want your hook up!

2 points 0 for 32

First time I tried, nothing here.

100% honesty, I don't have one. This appears to be the only aspect of life where I have some form of luck lol

Does anybody have any stories about the SOA hunts? I don't know anybody who's been on one of them, never even heard any reports. Any of y'all been and killed?

LOL just picking at ya. Congrats! Count me as one of the not selected yet again.

I have a friend who was a first time hunter last season and put in for the hunts not even knowing what they were. He went (I don't know where) and saw tons of deer and killed his first, a doe, on it. No idea if it was the first shot presented to him, if he just wanted to kill his first, or if he didn't see bucks.

Got selected as an Alternate for Portland landing gun deer hunt for Jan. 23. Most likely I will not get the opportunity there this season since someone has to decline there hunter status for myself to move to hunter status.

I got Jan 16-19 Archery... I hope you can give me some advise after your hunt.

No luck here

I got selected for 2 Portland landing hunts.

Deerhunter_1

I’ve never been there before but I’ll definitely pass along anything I pick up along the way. That goes for anyone else hunting Fred T Simpson too. I’d love to see one of us do well.

Well there you go, when southwood accepts one it’ll automatically decline the other. I hope you get it man.

Yes Sir... If I pick up any info I'll let you know...

Swing and a miss

What dates? Might have you a place to stay.

And yet again. Nothing, no even alternative. 0 for like 1000

Got the shaft again

I was just yanking some chains! I didn’t get selected for anything. Thanks for the hospitality though 👍🏻

I got nothing. 3 years now. And only 1 point.

No luck. 1 preference point. My first year applying.

Guess that glitch is good luck for you lol. How many points did you have?

No selections here.

Mine said 1

Well, Crap!!

Alternate on an antlerless hunt at cedar creek... not excited

Hopefully y’all have some luck.


Why do we even have a preference point system? That’s what pisses me off about the whole deal. The DNR is so incompetent, they can’t even manage their own quota system. You’re the 3rd person who I’ve talked to, that was drawn for a hunt that I applied for, with less preference points than me. What are the purpose of preference points if they don’t give someone with more points the preference? This is the same crap as the gator hunt. Sorry, rant over

They need to cube them like the gator draw.

Alternate for Upper State opener. There's still hope.

Not selected either....first time registering though. Maybe next time

Not selected again this year.

congrats man! You're gonna make someone who is an alternate very happy! You need to buy lottery tickets. Seriously. Chosen for 2 hunts?? The odds of that are astronomical.


Dr. B

I've been staunchly opposed to the SOA deal since it came out, but that being said, I did apply for several hunts. 2 preference points and did not get drawn for any of them.

So, a girl who I know that works for the Dnr explained the preference system to me. More points equal a “better chance” of being selected. They are doing it similarly to the gator tags where some hunters will draw regularly and some will never get drawn. What she did not specify is how much each preference point is weighted.

Leave it to Alabama to come up with this system.

Common sense says if you put in three years and accrue three points or four years (4 points) or whatever, then you should have "preference" over someone applying for the first time or with fewer points. That's the entire point of a "preference points" system.

If this is not how it's done in Alabama that's crazy.

Yet another reason I have not, and will never, apply for any preference point hunt here.

I got the Fred T Stimpson Youth Hunt 12/21

I would think that you would get as many chances as points, but the state government probably came up with a complicated algorithm that they can't even use correctly. Hell they can't even get am and pm right

Clem, the DNR employee I was talking to earlier responded. She said that she assumed it was done like the gator draw, but was not 100%. According to her, the gator draw works like this. There are around 5500 applicants every year. There are 260 tags. 85% of tags are reserved for participants with preference points, 15% are reserved for people with no preference points. Everyone who draws a tag loses their points.

Does anyone else see the stupidity in that? Let’s assume there are 500 applicants a year with no preference points. That would include the hunters who drew a tag the year before and the hunters who’ve never signed up before. That’s a 8% chance of being drawn.

The remaining 5000 with preference points, battle it out over the other 221 tags. That’s a 4.5% chance of drawing.

Smdh

Got selected for a youth hunt at fred t. Simpson. Only had 1 preference point.. A friend of mine got picked for a gun doe hunt in cedar creek for Nov. This was his first year putting in for it.

Got drawn for the 10/18 Crow Creek hunt.

Well hate to say it, drawn for Portland Jan 23 gun hunt; and wife alternate for Dec 5.

I get it that you are pissed off about the preference points, however, in your above assumption you can make the gator numbers what ever you want. Change to 1500 and 4000 and your %'s of getting picked go up and down to 2.3 and 5.5. so what's your solution?

I wonder how many have applied so far for the sandhill crane hunt, which is $10 to register/apply.

Since they're migratory birds, the same regs are applying as for waterfowl -- must have state license, state and federal waterfowl stamps, HIP permit, and WMA permit if you're hunting on a WMA. Legal arms and ammo (non-toxic) also the same as for waterfowl.

Well Chuck really knows how to piss off the people that he claims to work for 🤬🤬

Just making hunting "experiences" greater one preference point at a time.

Good one Clem

I started to and then added it all up and decided I didn't want to waste more money...

Just quoting the numbers of applicants I was told...

But to answer your question, here is my solution. Do it like every other state. If there are 260 tags, the tier with the most points get tags. The tier with the 2nd most points get what’s left over. The tier with the 3rd most points get any that are left over from the first two, and so on. There should never be a system where some people have tried for 10 years to get drawn and people who have no time invested have a chance to draw before them.

Now you know if they did it this way then Chucky couldn't give hunts to his buddies.

This, times infinity.

The entire purpose of a preference points system in a draw is the tier with the most points gets, y'know, preference.

Ok, going be that guy, what if 500 are in the 1st tier and they only have 260 tags, someone once again is going to be left out, then next year it goes to 1000, etc. as I see it there is always someone not getting a tag who thinks they are entitled to one.

If that are 500 the first year with the most points, and they give out 260 tags, the next year there will be 240 with the most points.

If there are 500 in the top tier, then they have a 52% chance of being drawn and a 100% chance the next year.

This is literally the way every preference system I've been around works. You don't hear many complaints because it's all above board.

Leave it to Alabama to screw something up with a system no one else has ever heard of

Personally, I love Alabama's draw system. Hope they never change it

I got in on the youth hunt 2 years in a row now...I got invited by a friend to the youth hunt the second year...Guess what he got drawn for another youth hunt this year...its worth the experience there...the deer sign is everywhere and both years my son has taken home meat..
This is Fred Stimpson youth hunt

What dates do you have?

My cousin who's daughters I took on the Stimpson youth hunt last year got drawn for the 12/21 Stimpson youth hunt this year so I'll be down there for that one as well as my Stimpson 01/30 hunt. Will also be on my buddy's Uchee creek hunt on 10/24.

I will be on the 12/21 hunt

Awesome! Look forward to running into you down there. If you haven’t already looking into it, the Best Western in Jackson is probably one of the cleanest hotels I’ve ever stayed in and the owner let us check out way late so we could hunt and not have to worry about getting back quick.

I did not get drawn again and expected nothing less.

I’m showing 1 preference point. Does anyone know how they are accumulated? I’ve been putting in for these hunts from day one and I should have more than 1 freaking preference point for the deer hunts.

Have you put in for the same WMA and same date each year?

I put in for cedar creek and Portland every year. Dates very due to my work schedule. There is no need in applying for hunts I can’t make due to work obligations.

Understand. So, I asked this question on another thread but no response. If you put in for different dates does that change you preference points? I have put in for Portland and Cedar Creek for primitive weapons and that last hunt every time. I have accrued points for those. If I put in for a different hunt, even on the same SOA, my points should increase, should they? I see it like every hunt is a separate lottery. If you apply for different dates it would not accrue points, on previous hunts applied for, correct?? Now, I don't know how it works but that is the way I would think.

I personally think if you put in for the same SOA regardless of dates you should accumulate points for that SOA if not drawn. I looked back at last years dates and they are the same hunts. I feel pretty certain I’m getting the shaft on my points. I should have 2 based on my history of applying.

I am showing 2 preference points for the Upper State hunt and this is the 1st year I ever registered to hunt that area. I am still showing 1 preference point for Portland landing and Cedar Creek area even though this was the 2nd year I registered for those hunts.
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It looks like the preference point doesn't mean sh#t. You could have 30 with the way they're doing it and still not get drawn

I put in for every single open registration, youth included. I think I had almost 50 hunt registrations when it was all said and done and got drawn as hunter for one and alternate for another and chose the guaranteed hunt.

Basically the same thing I did. Why not apply for every one? Better to get it and decline in my book.

That defiantly increases your odds of getting drawn.

I've done that every year so far and also had all of my buddies, my cousin, and my dad and uncle do it as well. So if you take me, three buddies, one cousin, dad, and uncle thats 7 applicants x and average of 40ish hunts = 280 entries a year. I've been on a hunt every year since it started.