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HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's

Posted By: Festus

HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 04:18 AM

I'm talkin' 240 to 275 pound Bucks......Any stories? Mine: 283 lb. 9 point I killed on a Bean field in 1979 in Macon County.....FAT as a Hog!!!
Posted By: Frankie

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 07:01 AM

9pt dressed 210 killed in lee county , weight him on the scales at the Carville gin in Tallapoosa county
Took four folks to get him out lol

Know of a bunch at of Macon county that dressed 170s to 190s

Saw a lot of big rack bucks but not real heavy come out of Tallapoosa, Lee, Chambers county.

Ain't seen much of nothing come out of Elmore county far from the river
Posted By: James

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 07:23 AM

None for me. It was 81 when i made it out šŸ˜€
Posted By: Frankie

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 08:43 AM

BIL killed a 9pt doe early 80s I think,,,,, that scored 126 in Macon county he had the whole deer mounted
Posted By: OlTimer

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 10:57 AM

Pictures, Festus?
Posted By: crocker

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 11:08 AM

I have one in my wall that I didnā€™t kill that was killed in hale county in 82 that weighed 285. Scored 156 as a main frame 7pt with 3 kickers.
Posted By: blumsden

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 11:22 AM

Here we go again. I guess I need to calibrate our scales. We've weighed every deer we've killed since 1994, killed in the bend of the coosa river. A couple high 140's, a lot of 130" deer. The heaviest deer we've ever killed and he a 5 y/o was 201 live weight. It was in the rut, so maybe he lost 20-25 lbs. Festus, you must have killed one of those Michigan deer they restocked back then.
Posted By: duxlayer

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 11:46 AM

Iv seen 2 isolated places around the house that can grow 250+ lb deer live weight . The ones around my house only 2 miles away 170-190 lbs max live weight on a 5-6 year old buck . Still scratch my head on this one . How is there a 70-80 lb discrepancy that close together . Iv seen the same on does , one 5 yo doe will weigh 85 lbs and one just down the road weigh 135 lbs and be a full 6ā€ taller at the shoulder .
Posted By: slippinlipjr

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 12:43 PM

I know of a few that have been killed in Dallas County in the last 20 years that were over 250. One was 267lbs and scored 138. The other I helped load on a four wheeler. He didn't have a big rack but he was the fattest deer I ever seen. Don't know exact weight but he might as well have been 300lbs, we almost couldn't get him out of there. He fell dead near a ditch so we put the four wheeler in the ditch and rolled the deer down onto the front rack. He bent one of the handle bars on it. Then we couldn't get the four wheeler out of the ditch because it was wanting to flip over so we had to use the winch to get it out. Now that deer only scored 102, but a few days later another buck was killed a few hundred yards away that weighed 178 and scored 143. Deer are like people, you have your bigguns and your skinny ones. Back when DC had more bean fields than pine trees you could see a lot of 150"+ bucks.
Posted By: timbercruiser

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 01:06 PM

Biggest buck I've ever seen on the scales was a 10 point killed in north Pike county, Saco, around 1968. He was 310 pounds.
I've killed 3 bucks that were around 221 pounds on the scales in Barbour county.
Posted By: top cat

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 01:10 PM

Killed many over 200 biggest was 240
Posted By: hunter84

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 01:12 PM

My son killed a 9 pt. in 2011 in south Montgomery county , club scales weighed him at 252, the processors scales weighed him at 248, live weight. Our club has killed a few 200-215 lb. bucks over the last 8-10 years. Most of the time they average 180-190.
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 01:31 PM

Jimmy Bailey, who killed the state record B&C typical, killed two bucks over 300 pounds in the late 70's in Hale Co, both weighed on cotton scales. There was a buck killed in Pickens Co in the 60's that weighed 365 live weight. Dang thing looks like an elk in the pics of it. I saw a deer killed in Wilcox Co, 1974 er so, that weighed 285 live weight.
Posted By: JBL

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 01:35 PM

Why were they that big then but not now? Maybe they are now, I just dont know anyone personally who sees any like that.
Posted By: blumsden

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 01:41 PM

I'm guessing because the deer density was low and the northern strain was still 100%. Thru the years deer density has increased and northern strain has been watered down.
Posted By: Shaw

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by JBL
Why were they that big then but not now? Maybe they are now, I just dont know anyone personally who sees any like that.


More row crops and less pine plantations back then. The heaviest buck Iā€™ve killed was a 220# 9pt here in Fosters back in 1998.
Posted By: doekiller

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 02:11 PM

The biggest deer Iā€™ve ever killed was in Blount county. It weighed 200 even on my scales but was only a 6 point. He was aged at 6. The biggest I e seen killed was by my son a couple of years ago in Tuscaloosa county. It weighed 223 pounds at the processor. Scored in the low 120s. But, it was only aged at 3.
Posted By: Mully

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by JBL
Why were they that big then but not now? Maybe they are now, I just dont know anyone personally who sees any like that.


When row crops turned to pine plantations away went the good groceries.
Posted By: JBL

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Shaw
Originally Posted by JBL
Why were they that big then but not now? Maybe they are now, I just dont know anyone personally who sees any like that.


More row crops and less pine plantations back then. The heaviest buck Iā€™ve killed was a 220# 9pt here in Fosters back in 1998.

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks
Posted By: Bamabucks14

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by crocker
I have one in my wall that I didnā€™t kill that was killed in hale county in 82 that weighed 285. Scored 156 as a main frame 7pt with 3 kickers.

Originally Posted by JBL
Why were they that big then but not now? Maybe they are now, I just dont know anyone personally who sees any like that.

Not sure what the area you hunt is like but itā€™s more common where I hunt to shoot a 200+ lb deer. We are surrounded by corn and soybeans so thatā€™s obviously a reason why. My father and I are the only two that hunt it and itā€™s a very large tract of family land. My largest was weighed at 235# live weight on a set of very good scales. Shot him late November 2016. Around thanksgiving is when our rut starts. Between my father and I, weā€™ve killed several over 200#. Iā€™ll say that we are VERY lucky to hunt the property we do.
Posted By: MGrubber

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 03:28 PM



10-15 years a go in Wilcox Co Flatwood HC we would kill 4-6 every year that weighed between 215-240. We didn't have agriculture but the whole 12,000 acres at the time was covered up in waist to shoulder high honeysuckle. that stuff will put the weight on some deer. Then they timber company started spraying and killing everything but pine trees and sage grass and the weights dropped about 50 lbs on average. My son, Team Duckdown killed at least 4 that weighed over 215lbs including an 8point that weighed between 235 and 240 on 2 different scales.
Posted By: grundan

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 03:55 PM

I am with you on that, diet can surely play a big part in an animals weight.
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by blumsden
I'm guessing because the deer density was low and the northern strain was still 100%. Thru the years deer density has increased and northern strain has been watered down.


northern strain was found in only a few small select locations. Irrelevant to 99% of Alabama, esp the blackbelt where a LOT of the bigger bucks came from. As in soybeans.
Posted By: OlTimer

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 05:09 PM

I'm still waiting on a picture. I know there were camera's in the 60's and 70's. And I'm talking about these 250+. I seriously just want to see a picture of one.
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 05:36 PM

Heck, I killed a 242# and a 251# back to back days off the same hot doe, 1995 er so. They still around.
Posted By: daylate

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by BhamFred
Originally Posted by blumsden
I'm guessing because the deer density was low and the northern strain was still 100%. Thru the years deer density has increased and northern strain has been watered down.


northern strain was found in only a few small select locations. Irrelevant to 99% of Alabama, esp the blackbelt where a LOT of the bigger bucks came from. As in soybeans.

Good read on this subject:
https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.co...ig-bucks-ala-hunting-industry/738210001/
Posted By: Todd1700

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 05:57 PM

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More row crops and less pine plantations back then.


Yep. What he said. Pine plantations don't provide much nutrition for deer. When I was a teenager there were corn and soybean fields everywhere here in Wilcox County and 200 plus pound bucks were not uncommon at all. Now it's pretty much just pine plantations. My personal best Alabama deer weighed 220 pounds. 8 point, killed him on a push drive. He stopped two bullets from a 30-06. I recovered both from just under the skin on the off side.
Posted By: 2Dogs

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by Todd1700
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More row crops and less pine plantations back then.


Yep. What he said. Pine plantations don't provide much nutrition for deer. When I was a teenager there were corn and soybean fields everywhere here in Wilcox County and 200 plus pound bucks were not uncommon at all. Now it's pretty much just pine plantations. My personal best Alabama deer weighed 220 pounds. 8 point, killed him on a push drive. He stopped two bullets from a 30-06. I recovered both from just under the skin on the off side.


Hush yer mouth, there's a few on here that will tell ya pines is superior to any other habitat in the state.
Posted By: Festus

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 09:08 PM

I don't remember anybody taking pics of Deer back in those days....I searched through some old pics and don't have any Dead Deer pics. Guess it was common enough it wasn't that big of a deal during those Glory days of endless soybean fields....
Posted By: bamaeyedoc

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Festus
I'm talkin' 240 to 275 pound Bucks......Any stories? Mine: 283 lb. 9 point I killed on a Bean field in 1979 in Macon County.....FAT as a Hog!!!


I saw one mounted in mexican restaurant in Camden Sunday that ad a plaque which said it weighed 264lbs. Killed in 1978. Needs a new cape bad. Whoever shot it said it was their 104th deer.

I've killed 3 bucks that went over 200lbs. Coosda-205lbs and 210lbs. Shot one in Lowndes opening day about 5 years ago that went 213lbs.

Dr. B
Posted By: PikeRoad40

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 09:48 PM

Iā€™ve got a few of my grandfathers mounts that he killed during the 80ā€™s in South Montgomery. Both were over 240lbs+ Back when they still had row crops. They had a pile of 130ā€-150ā€ antlers that had been cut off and thrown in the corner of the barn.
Posted By: Frankie

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by BhamFred
Jimmy Bailey, who killed the state record B&C typical, killed two bucks over 300 pounds in the late 70's in Hale Co, both weighed on cotton scales. There was a buck killed in Pickens Co in the 60's that weighed 365 live weight. Dang thing looks like an elk in the pics of it. I saw a deer killed in Wilcox Co, 1974 er so, that weighed 285 live weight.



They are a truck bed full when they get that big
Posted By: MarksOutdoors

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 10:06 PM



Two pages of 200+ pound bucks, blah, blah, blah and not one single picture yet?
Posted By: Ben2

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 10:16 PM

I am gonna bet everyone did not have access to scales like we all do today so I expect a lot of the weights were guestimates
Posted By: Frankie

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 10:17 PM

And I doult there will be many pictures either
Posted By: Frankie

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by Ben2
I am gonna bet everyone did not have access to scales like we all do today so I expect a lot of the weights were guestimates


Back then there were scale too . We used scales at cotton gins
Posted By: Squeaky

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 10:31 PM

I have killed two in Dallas Cty within the last 10 years, one was 230's# and the other was 240# live weight. A lot of ag on the land I use to hunt and it was not uncommon to kill a mature deer that weighed over 200#.
Posted By: Squeaky

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 10:39 PM

The pictures of two I killed.

First is 230ā€™s 9 point. The other is a 240# 8 that is probably one of the oldest bucks Iā€™ve ever killed. He was full grown body wise.

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Posted By: Frankie

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 10:46 PM

Think about this , nearly all the big deer back then we're kill because of dog hunting . If I remember right the one Troy stated was killed on a dog drive . Man drives are deadly on big bucks ..

They way a lot of us hunt ain't gonna see deer like this . They get 6/7 or older they hard to kill .


Just add this, imo a muture buck is 6 and ovet not 41/2 to 51/2
Posted By: Ben2

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by Frankie
Originally Posted by Ben2
I am gonna bet everyone did not have access to scales like we all do today so I expect a lot of the weights were guestimates


Back then there were scale too . We used scales at cotton gins

I got some did but just like today a bunch just say what they think one weighs
Posted By: Frankie

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by Ben2
Originally Posted by Frankie
Originally Posted by Ben2
I am gonna bet everyone did not have access to scales like we all do today so I expect a lot of the weights were guestimates


Back then there were scale too . We used scales at cotton gins

I got some did but just like today a bunch just say what they think one weighs



Today I can't judge live weight only dressed weight . Lol
Posted By: Teacher One

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 10:56 PM

I killed a 215 lb 9 point in Collinwood, TN in 1986. Yes, I know it's not AL, but it was close to the line on some property I bought just to hunt on. There was a huge frost that morning and I killed him at first light backlit against the white frost. I drove a 4 wheeler to him and got him on the back rack by myself because the adrenalin was pumping as this was a giant! When I backed the 4 wheeler up to the tailgate to put him in the truck, there was frost all over the truck bedliner. I tried pulling him into the truck bed and he would slide back into the 4 wheeler because of the frost. Wound up pointing the truck down hill and finally got him to stay in the truck. I stopped at an Ag supply coming home and weighed him on certified scales at 215. Biggest deer I have ever laid eyes on. I would love to repeat that day again!

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Posted By: Frankie

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 11:16 PM

Ok yall got me started . Lol

Back then the forms for shoulder mounts was shitty . If they had mounts then like now some of yall would shucks if you saw the neck on those big bucks back then in full rut
Posted By: Stob

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 11:43 PM

My biggest was a 220# 10pt that netted `125 out of the TNF,,
circa Thanksgiving day 1992.
Posted By: Sasquatch Lives

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 11:49 PM

How bout some pics of these toads? The only bucks I have seen over 240 have been from Alberta or Saskatchewan. I have shot them in Michigan up to 240 and 190 in Alabama. A 240 plus buck is one hell of an animal. Seems that a 200+ buck in Alabama is akin to a "musta scored at least 150" haha.
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/07/19 11:54 PM

I don't know about any others but ALL the weights I have mentioned were from accurate scales, nodamnguessing.

I would guess I have killed a dozen bucks over 200# live weight over the last 30 years. All weighed on my scales. Biggest racked buck I have killed weighed 198 live, just missed 200 on my scales. I would of "guessed" it at 200 live, but the scales said different.
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 12:00 AM

Jimmy Baileys state record buck was on a HUGE shoulder form. When we took it off the wall to score I saw that the skin was overlapped down one shoulder because the skin was too big for that huge form. Hard to find a form for a 300+ pound deer.
Posted By: Festus

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 12:03 AM

My 283 was first tried on 200# scales.....he fell back in the truck.....Broke them.....Took him to Society Hill and weighed him on Torbert Brothers Cotton Gin Scales....Got witnesses....Kiss My Azzzzzz....Non Believers!!!
Posted By: Festus

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 12:08 AM

IF you weren't huntin' th' Blackbelt back then.......ONE has NO Conception of the Body Weights....
Posted By: Frankie

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by BhamFred
Jimmy Baileys state record buck was on a HUGE shoulder form. When we took it off the wall to score I saw that the skin was overlapped down one shoulder because the skin was too big for that huge form. Hard to find a form for a 300+ pound deer.



What I was saying about the necks . Lol
Posted By: ronfromramer

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 12:13 AM

Dang Mike, that buck in top picture looks like he was on steroids. How do you give it to them, those are some serious shoulders
Posted By: Frankie

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 12:14 AM

Troy ,,,, how many old guys you know back then that threw the antlers away with the guts and hide
Posted By: 2Dogs

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
How bout some pics of these toads? The only bucks I have seen over 240 have been from Alberta or Saskatchewan. I have shot them in Michigan up to 240 and 190 in Alabama. A 240 plus buck is one hell of an animal. Seems that a 200+ buck in Alabama is akin to a "musta scored at least 150" haha.


204 Field dressed , should be over 250 on the hoof. Killed 2 years ago, I have a pic of the scales wink. The pics are after field dressing , thick little feller. That's the heaviest I've killed , but have a pile that field dressed over 160Lbs.

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Posted By: Bustinbeards

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 12:25 AM

Itā€™s like a Sasquatch sighting! 2dogs done posted a pic of one of his studs!
Posted By: 2Dogs

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by Bustinbeards
Itā€™s like a Sasquatch sighting! 2dogs done posted a pic of one of his studs!

Well , Sasquatch did ask.
Posted By: CrappieMan

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by Frankie
Ok yall got me started . Lol

Back then the forms for shoulder mounts was shitty . If they had mounts then like now some of yall would shucks if you saw the neck on those big bucks back then in full rut


Back then it was a paper form or either a 4x4 post with paper mache shoved in it. What we have now does the anatomy more justice. Most of the old stuff wound up with a more stretched out neck.
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by Frankie
Troy ,,,, how many old guys you know back then that threw the antlers away with the guts and hide


ha, several times I've seen it done. I saw a 17ish pointer killed near Camden in the early 70's, 285 pounds, and THE RACK MADE THE DEER LOOK SMALL. don't know the score but it was prolly over 200 non typical. Absolutely huge. The guy didn't mount it, just cut the horns off. I bout cried. shocked

Jimmy Bailey gave away a 140" ten point in the early 80's to some guy he barely knew. All he wanted was the meat. Him and the crew he hunted with would cruise backroads at daylight looking for fresh tracks. When found they would turn out ONE dog and spend the day leapfrogging in front of the dog till someone killed the deer.
Posted By: James

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 02:02 AM

Mr Harold killed a big 12 point about 14 years go around camp that weighed 236
Posted By: Frankie

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 02:34 AM

Alabama can have big deer. They just gotta get older
Posted By: Squeaky

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 02:47 AM

Both of the deer I posted where weighed at Central Alabama Processing on Jamieā€™s digital scales. I do not personally know if they were 100% accurate or not. All I can say for certain is both of those deer where better than average on body size and they were full grown. The scales could have been off but Iā€™ve put my hands on my fair share of 200# deer and felt like the weights were accurate. These were not guesstimate weights!
Posted By: CrappieMan

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 10:17 AM

Ive seen 1 deer personally In Crenshaw county that went over 200. That was killed by my brother in the early 80's. Seen a few in lowndes and Wilcox that were whoppers. Mounted one that came from sardis last year that was an absolute monster. Only had half an ear left.
Posted By: OlTimer

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 11:07 AM

Nice deer Squeaky! Still not of Festus's standards (250+). Festus, I hunted Society Hill, know the Torbert family as well. Big Swamp Hunting club, George Mann, etc. BullSchit flag is thrown! Back it up with a picture, you started the thread.
Posted By: RedneckNinji

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
How bout some pics of these toads? The only bucks I have seen over 240 have been from Alberta or Saskatchewan. I have shot them in Michigan up to 240 and 190 in Alabama. A 240 plus buck is one hell of an animal. Seems that a 200+ buck in Alabama is akin to a "musta scored at least 150" haha.


204 Field dressed , should be over 250 on the hoof. Killed 2 years ago, I have a pic of the scales wink. The pics are after field dressing , thick little feller. That's the heaviest I've killed , but have a pile that field dressed over 160Lbs.

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Dang toad there! Id hate to imagine smacking into that thing at full speed on the highway!@!
Posted By: James

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by OlTimer
Nice deer Squeaky! Still not of Festus's standards (250+). Festus, I hunted Society Hill, know the Torbert family as well. Big Swamp Hunting club, George Mann, etc. BullSchit flag is thrown! Back it up with a picture, you started the thread.


You mean 240+ šŸ¤­
Posted By: Festus

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by OlTimer
Nice deer Squeaky! Still not of Festus's standards (250+). Festus, I hunted Society Hill, know the Torbert family as well. Big Swamp Hunting club, George Mann, etc. BullSchit flag is thrown! Back it up with a picture, you started the thread.

I was 21 years old in 1979....I didn't even own a Camera....and I damn sure wasn't going to piss $$$$ away on any film and developing!!! My $$$$ went towards ammunition, gasoline, Beer and Pussy....in that order!!!!!
Posted By: Frankie

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Festus
Originally Posted by OlTimer
Nice deer Squeaky! Still not of Festus's standards (250+). Festus, I hunted Society Hill, know the Torbert family as well. Big Swamp Hunting club, George Mann, etc. BullSchit flag is thrown! Back it up with a picture, you started the thread.

I was 21 years old in 1979....I didn't even own a Camera....and I damn sure wasn't going to piss $$$$ away on any film and developing!!! My $$$$ went towards ammunition, gasoline, Beer and Pussy....in that order!!!!!


I told them above there would be few if any from back then .nobody took pictures back then he'll good many just threw the antlers away.

Most of the ones that took pictures I knew were of bucks killed at night and rode around till they blew up .
Posted By: Todd1700

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 08:12 PM

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I told them above there would be few if any from back then .nobody took pictures back then he'll good many just threw the antlers away.


Exactly. This was back when you had to send film off to be developed and there was no internet to show off a picture of a buck. What were you going to do? Have a bunch of wallet size photos made up and pass them out to your friends. Most of the people I knew back then were the kind of people that would kill a 130 to 140 class buck and do little more than nail the horns to a barn door. I don't even know what happened to the horns off the buck I mentioned in my first post much less any photo that might have been taken. Different time back then.
Posted By: Frankie

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Todd1700
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I told them above there would be few if any from back then .nobody took pictures back then he'll good many just threw the antlers away.


Exactly. This was back when you had to send film off to be developed and there was no internet to show off a picture of a buck. What were you going to do? Have a bunch of wallet size photos made up and pass them out to your friends. Most of the people I knew back then were the kind of people that would kill a 130 to 140 class buck and do little more than nail the horns to a barn door. I don't even know what happened to the horns off the buck I mentioned in my first post much less any photo that might have been taken. Different time back then.



Lot different !!!!!!!
Posted By: PikeRoad40

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 09:09 PM

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This is one my grandad killed in the early 80ā€™s in South Montgomery My dad found it thrown in the barn years later. Finally got them fixed up this year, a little wood stain to darken the antlers up since they had turned solid white and a replica skull brought them back to life. Picture doesnā€™t do the mass justice. No clue what the deer weighed but the antlers are heavy!!
Posted By: OlTimer

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Festus
Originally Posted by OlTimer
Nice deer Squeaky! Still not of Festus's standards (250+). Festus, I hunted Society Hill, know the Torbert family as well. Big Swamp Hunting club, George Mann, etc. BullSchit flag is thrown! Back it up with a picture, you started the thread.

I was 21 years old in 1979....I didn't even own a Camera....and I damn sure wasn't going to piss $$$$ away on any film and developing!!! My $$$$ went towards ammunition, gasoline, Beer and Pussy....in that order!!!!!


Kinda what I figured.
Posted By: Festus

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/08/19 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by OlTimer
Originally Posted by Festus
Originally Posted by OlTimer
Nice deer Squeaky! Still not of Festus's standards (250+). Festus, I hunted Society Hill, know the Torbert family as well. Big Swamp Hunting club, George Mann, etc. BullSchit flag is thrown! Back it up with a picture, you started the thread.

I was 21 years old in 1979....I didn't even own a Camera....and I damn sure wasn't going to piss $$$$ away on any film and developing!!! My $$$$ went towards ammunition, gasoline, Beer and Pussy....in that order!!!!!


Kinda what I figured.

You must not have been very successful huntin' that area or you have Short Man Syndrome Issues........
Posted By: OlTimer

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 12:13 AM

Calling Marshall Dillon....283 my azz.
Posted By: Festus

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by OlTimer
Calling Marshall Dillon....283 my azz.

Looser....
Posted By: James

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by Festus
Originally Posted by OlTimer
Calling Marshall Dillon....283 my azz.

Loser....


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Posted By: BhamFred

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by OlTimer
Calling Marshall Dillon....283 my azz.


what is yer fkn problem?
Posted By: daylate

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 12:44 PM

I was in the now infamous Riverdale club in Dallas county for several years. They had a set of scales at the sign in board and would weigh every buck taken. I would watch yet another 200+ lb buck weighed in and think to myself man, that deer looks to be no more than 160 or so. I mentioned this one day and the ones who had killed 200+ bucks all blasted me. I put the scale up high and weighed myself with it. I was 190 lbs at the time and the scale showed 220 lbs.
Posted By: 2Dogs

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 01:56 PM

Kinda mystified that 200lb on the hoof deer are so uncommon state wide.
Posted By: Bamabucks14

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Kinda mystified that 200lb on the hoof deer are so uncommon state wide.

Same here
Posted By: OlTimer

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by BhamFred
Originally Posted by OlTimer
Calling Marshall Dillon....283 my azz.


what is yer fkn problem?


No problem at all. I just wanted to see a picture of a deer from Alabama that was 280+. Kinda like you, I looked at the thread because I find them fascinating creatures. I would like to see a picture, is that so damn offensive?
Posted By: Clem

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Kinda mystified that 200lb on the hoof deer are so uncommon state wide.


Three things to get size deer:

1. Age
2. Food
3. Genetics


Also, too many people shoot the "it's a good 8 point, had to shoot it or my neighbor would have!" bucks. If that makes them happy, fine. So be it.

But you can't get 4-, 5- and 6-year-old bucks - if that's what you want - by shooting the 2.5-year-old spindly 8-point.
Posted By: Frankie

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Kinda mystified that 200lb on the hoof deer are so uncommon state wide.



They hunt places like here at home in elmore county. I kill one that dresses 135 to 145 I think I done some thing. Lol
Posted By: blumsden

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 04:34 PM

200lb deer are not uncommon on the hoof in Alabama, but 250lb plus deer IMO are very rare. Most people don't weigh deer, they just guess.
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by OlTimer
Originally Posted by BhamFred
Originally Posted by OlTimer
Calling Marshall Dillon....283 my azz.


what is yer fkn problem?


No problem at all. I just wanted to see a picture of a deer from Alabama that was 280+. Kinda like you, I looked at the thread because I find them fascinating creatures. I would like to see a picture, is that so damn offensive?


yer calling BS and acting like he is lying is offensive, unless you know something I don't. I've got pics of every big deer I've killed but they ain't going on here.
Posted By: Sasquatch Lives

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by daylate
I was in the now infamous Riverdale club in Dallas county for several years. They had a set of scales at the sign in board and would weigh every buck taken. I would watch yet another 200+ lb buck weighed in and think to myself man, that deer looks to be no more than 160 or so. I mentioned this one day and the ones who had killed 200+ bucks all blasted me. I put the scale up high and weighed myself with it. I was 190 lbs at the time and the scale showed 220 lbs.

Same thing here. Have seen many club rusty old scales that are 20 plus years old and left in the weather or in some dusty shed and pulled out once a year. I have seen a lot of dead deer and have also seen a lot of inaccurate scales. A 200 pound buck is about like the 20 pound string of bass, you know the old "well we didn't weigh em but we had about 20 pounds"!
Posted By: 2Dogs

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Clem
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Kinda mystified that 200lb on the hoof deer are so uncommon state wide.


Three things to get size deer:

1. Age
2. Food
3. Genetics


Also, too many people shoot the "it's a good 8 point, had to shoot it or my neighbor would have!" bucks. If that makes them happy, fine. So be it.

But you can't get 4-, 5- and 6-year-old bucks - if that's what you want - by shooting the 2.5-year-old spindly 8-point.


Same genetics we've had for 50+ years, I'd think with all this new fangled QDM , high octane food plots, feeding programs and such they wouldn't be so hard to find.
Posted By: Frankie

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 06:27 PM

One of the funnest damn things I saw was two guy trying weigh a deer on bathroom scales and being half drunk made it even better but the done it . Lol
Posted By: abolt300

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Originally Posted by daylate
I was in the now infamous Riverdale club in Dallas county for several years. They had a set of scales at the sign in board and would weigh every buck taken. I would watch yet another 200+ lb buck weighed in and think to myself man, that deer looks to be no more than 160 or so. I mentioned this one day and the ones who had killed 200+ bucks all blasted me. I put the scale up high and weighed myself with it. I was 190 lbs at the time and the scale showed 220 lbs.

Same thing here. Have seen many club rusty old scales that are 20 plus years old and left in the weather or in some dusty shed and pulled out once a year. I have seen a lot of dead deer and have also seen a lot of inaccurate scales. A 200 pound buck is about like the 20 pound string of bass, you know the old "well we didn't weigh em but we had about 20 pounds"!


Old rusty scales typically weigh light, not heavy. Yes there are inaccurate scales, then again, there are a pile of well managed clubs that use digital or calibrated scales. There are plenty of 200lb bucks still being killed on well managed properties in Alabama. Now days, that number drops off exponentially when you start talking about bucks over 220lb. The key is age and nutrition. Back when most of the blackbelt was in Ag, the age structure was better and there were plenty of 220-240lb bucks killed. Anything over 250 has and always will be a sure enough toad. Note that almost all those huge bucks that were weighed back in the 70's were weighed on pretty accurate feed scales at the feed stores. Nobody was into serious management back then, they simply hunted. I'd be willing to bet that 90% of clubs back then didnt even have a set of scales. If you shot a stud and wanted it weighed, you took it to the feed scales or somewhere similar. You reference 20 lb strings of bass, there have been a pile of days that I've been at or over 20 lbs with just 2 fish. Did it twice this spring in fact and there are several on here that can attest. It's all a matter of when, how and where you fish and when, how and where you are hunting (and back then, the blackbelt was the place to be).

I fully believe these older guys like Troy and the others that hunted these prime areas back then. Back when the blackbelt was really at it's prime, I was too young to hunt seriously but I remember the deer that my dad and others killed. By the time I was old enough to start sitting and hunting on my own with a rifle, it was around 1982 and that area was already moving to pines and the body weights and inches of horn dropped off quickly after that. I remember in either 1977 or 1978, I was 7 or 8 years old and watched a deer get weighed on the feed scales in Thomaston, Alabama, that was killed off our club just up the road, That place was surrounded on 3 sides by thousands of acres of ag. Guy shot it 7 times with buckshot on a man drive and still ended up cutting its throat to finish it. It weighed 267 live weight on feed scales with 8 to 10 of us witnessing it. I remember when they skinned that deer, the buckshot sounded like rain hitting on the ground as it fell out of the tallow on that buck. Most most of the pellets had not even made it into the deer's chest. I fully believe these older guys that lived it. I caught the trailing edge of it, but was just born 10-20 years too late to really hit it right. Oh yeah, that 267 deer probably scored in the high 140's and the old man that killed it sawed those horns off with a hacksaw and threw them in the bed of his truck.
Posted By: Frankie

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 07:36 PM

A bolt ,,, they cut timber different back then too . Lot f land back then was just thinned not stripped to the ground
Posted By: Todd1700

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 07:47 PM

Quote
That place was surrounded on 3 sides by thousands of acres of ag. Guy shot it 7 times with buckshot on a man drive and still ended up cutting its throat to finish it. It weighed 267 live weight on feed scales with 8 to 10 of us witnessing it.


For the doubters the above words contain several clues as to why heavier bucks used to be killed much more frequently back when I was a kid.

The first one is the phrase " thousands of acres of ag". Sorry but your 1/8 of an acre green patch can't compare to 1000's of acres of standing corn when it comes to putting weight on deer. Even if you did use some of Ray Scotts extra magic special grass seeds. LOL!

The second clue is that the deer was killed on a drive. People mostly hunt alone now out of tree stands and shooting houses. In other words waiting for the deer to come to them while it's still daylight. Well most 6 year old bucks don't do much natural moving around in daylight. So most people aren't killing the oldest bucks on the property they hunt but rather the first "acceptably old enough" buck that shows up. Most likely a 3 year old. Hell, a lot of people shoot them before they get that old. But back when everyone I knew was either having dog drives or push drives it forced these old bucks to get up and move. As a consequence a lot more really old bucks were being killed.
Posted By: OlTimer

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by BhamFred
Originally Posted by OlTimer
Originally Posted by BhamFred
Originally Posted by OlTimer
Calling Marshall Dillon....283 my azz.


what is yer fkn problem?


No problem at all. I just wanted to see a picture of a deer from Alabama that was 280+. Kinda like you, I looked at the thread because I find them fascinating creatures. I would like to see a picture, is that so damn offensive?


yer calling BS and acting like he is lying is offensive, unless you know something I don't. I've got pics of every big deer I've killed but they ain't going on here.


Read your posts, "yer fkn problem" and finding something offensive just don't seem to mix. I seriously wanted to SEE a picture of the deer since I know that area and the Torbert family. Marshall Dillon and Festus was an attempt at humor. It's hot, come inside and cool off! Everybody knows hunters and fishermen never exaggerate (or how far they can hit golf balls). Have a good day there Fred.
Posted By: Frankie

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Todd1700
Quote
That place was surrounded on 3 sides by thousands of acres of ag. Guy shot it 7 times with buckshot on a man drive and still ended up cutting its throat to finish it. It weighed 267 live weight on feed scales with 8 to 10 of us witnessing it.


For the doubters the above words contain several clues as to why heavier bucks used to be killed much more frequently back when I was a kid.

The first one is the phrase " thousands of acres of ag". Sorry but your 1/8 of an acre green patch can't compare to 1000's of acres of standing corn when it comes to putting weight on deer. Even if you did use some of Ray Scotts extra magic special grass seeds. LOL!

The second clue is that the deer was killed on a drive. People mostly hunt alone now out of tree stands and shooting houses. In other words waiting for the deer to come to them while it's still daylight. Well most 6 year old bucks don't do much natural moving around in daylight. So most people aren't killing the oldest bucks on the property they hunt but rather the first "acceptably old enough" buck that shows up. Most likely a 3 year old. Hell, a lot of people shoot them before they get that old. But back when everyone I knew was either having dog drives or push drives it forced these old bucks to get up and move. As a consequence a lot more really old bucks were being killed.




I said pretty much the same in above posts on a lot of that
Posted By: headshot

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 08:26 PM

I killed one at Bank head in the early 90's that field dressed 213
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 08:38 PM

Bankhead used to, and still does, produce some monster bucks, antlers and weights.
Posted By: Frankie

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 08:56 PM

Yall may need to bust up them Sanctuary areas from time to time to get them big boys moving . Lol
Posted By: Frankie

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by BhamFred
Bankhead used to, and still does, produce some monster bucks, antlers and weights.



If its like I'm thinking I'll leave that place for the young healty fit guys
Posted By: Nightwatchman

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 09:37 PM

I killed one on some corps land one time that weighed 195 field dressed, so that would have put it over 200 lbs on the hoof. Biggest deer I've ever killed. Got him mounted on the wall at home. If yall want to see it bad enough I'll send it to someone to post.
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Frankie
Originally Posted by BhamFred
Bankhead used to, and still does, produce some monster bucks, antlers and weights.



If its like I'm thinking I'll leave that place for the young healty fit guys


yes it is, and thats why it has BIG OLD bucks of northern genetics
Posted By: oldbowhunter

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/09/19 11:59 PM

There is a picture at Ezells (original one) of a 299 pound buck weighed on cotton scales.

It was killed by Dave Barr Tutt in Nanafalia. I heard the story from the horses mouth several times
over the years and it is a heck of a story. It looks like a Canada deer.
Posted By: oldbowhunter

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/10/19 12:13 AM

Tommy Miller killed a 307 pound buck in the early 80ā€™s in Dayton. I saw the hindquarters
at a processor in Linden and they didnā€™t look like a whitetail. Looked like
a young steer.
Posted By: globe

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/10/19 12:14 AM

I have pics of 4 weā€™ve killed, but itā€™s gonna take me a while.
At work. Nothing close to 250 though.
Lots of big deer killed in our area back in the day because there wasnā€™t a season on them. When season opened, there were Huge bucks and does for several years. And most folks didnā€™t still hunt with a rifle which let them grow too.
Posted By: oldbowhunter

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/10/19 12:29 AM

Iā€™ve got a pic of a 240 pound 10 point killed 3 years ago on the place I hunt.

I canā€™t post a pic right now since tinypic went down and I havenā€™t figured out a new hosting site.

If you want to see it I will text to someone to post.
Posted By: Forrestgump1

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/10/19 12:30 AM

I've got one on my wall that weighed 262 on a certified scale at Taylor's deer processing. My dad has killed 3 or 4 over 225 over the years. Seen several around 250 killed out of south montgomery. Not that uncommon around here.
Posted By: JBL

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/10/19 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Clem
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Kinda mystified that 200lb on the hoof deer are so uncommon state wide.


Three things to get size deer:

1. Age
2. Food
3. Genetics


Also, too many people shoot the "it's a good 8 point, had to shoot it or my neighbor would have!" bucks. If that makes them happy, fine. So be it.

But you can't get 4-, 5- and 6-year-old bucks - if that's what you want - by shooting the 2.5-year-old spindly 8-point.

This. Around my neck of the woods they dont cull deer.
Posted By: timbercruiser

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/10/19 01:28 PM

The 310# buck I have mentioned several times was weighed on the Saco store platform scales, probably as accurate as you could find. No pictures, nobody carried a camera around with them back then and there probably aren't 3 or 4 people, if that, still alive that witnessed it.
Posted By: Clem

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/10/19 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by timbercruiser
No pictures, nobody carried a camera around with them back then


Exactly. I don't have any photos of my first couple of deer. No one carried an Instamatic, film and flash cubes back then unless you were on vacation, going to a funeral for graveside flower photos, a family or school reunion, or were involved in a wedding.

If it was big enough to photograph you might drop by the local newspaper office IF you wanted anyone to know or it was really significant. Otherwise, gut, cut and done.
Posted By: daylate

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/11/19 01:36 PM

Maybe all these gigantic Saskatchewan sized Alabama deer were just before my time. I have been hunting or have known people hunting in Alabama since the mid seventies. The heaviest deer I have ever credibly heard of was a 230 lb 12 pt killed in Sumter County in the mid seventies. I saw the picture of that one and although I cannot verify the weight, it was a toad for sure. I, like others on here have said, would love to see some pictures of these gigantic bucks from the glory days. We may never see Alabama deer of that size again.

What is interesting here in Florida is the rising number of 200 lb bucks in recent years. Just about every club I used to hunt has taken one or more a year lately. I watched a 210 lb 8 pt weighed on good scales last season. When I was hunting Florida, 180 lbs was about the biggest I ever saw. I killed that one on the Escambia River and he had wide skinny horns that probably score around 90". Why are Florida deer increasing in body weight? Baiting has been allowed since at least 1990 so it isn't that.

Interestingly, FL buck scores are going up as well. I know of 3 killed within 80 miles of my house in the last two years that were 140 or better. That was unheard of when I hunted here.
Posted By: Sasquatch Lives

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/11/19 04:09 PM

Man pics of all these 250 lb bama deer are rarer than sasquatch pics.
Posted By: blade

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/11/19 04:37 PM

Iā€™ve hunted the same general area since the mid seventies. Those deer havenā€™t changed much. You see an occasional 200 plus live weight but not much over that, it was the same in the seventies. Very little agriculture then or now in this area.
Posted By: DeerNutz0U812_

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/11/19 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by blade
Iā€™ve hunted the same general area since the mid seventies. Those deer havenā€™t changed much. You see an occasional 200 plus live weight but not much over that, it was the same in the seventies. Very little agriculture then or now in this area.
x2....bout the same here...
Posted By: scrubbuck

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/11/19 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by daylate
Maybe all these gigantic Saskatchewan sized Alabama deer were just before my time. I have been hunting or have known people hunting in Alabama since the mid seventies. The heaviest deer I have ever credibly heard of was a 230 lb 12 pt killed in Sumter County in the mid seventies. I saw the picture of that one and although I cannot verify the weight, it was a toad for sure. I, like others on here have said, would love to see some pictures of these gigantic bucks from the glory days. We may never see Alabama deer of that size again.

What is interesting here in Florida is the rising number of 200 lb bucks in recent years. Just about every club I used to hunt has taken one or more a year lately. I watched a 210 lb 8 pt weighed on good scales last season. When I was hunting Florida, 180 lbs was about the biggest I ever saw. I killed that one on the Escambia River and he had wide skinny horns that probably score around 90". Why are Florida deer increasing in body weight? Baiting has been allowed since at least 1990 so it isn't that.

Interestingly, FL buck scores are going up as well. I know of 3 killed within 80 miles of my house in the last two years that were 140 or better. That was unheard of when I hunted here.


Like people, the older they get the heavier they get. More and more folks are letting bucks get older now days.
Posted By: daylate

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/12/19 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by scrubbuck
Originally Posted by daylate
Maybe all these gigantic Saskatchewan sized Alabama deer were just before my time. I have been hunting or have known people hunting in Alabama since the mid seventies. The heaviest deer I have ever credibly heard of was a 230 lb 12 pt killed in Sumter County in the mid seventies. I saw the picture of that one and although I cannot verify the weight, it was a toad for sure. I, like others on here have said, would love to see some pictures of these gigantic bucks from the glory days. We may never see Alabama deer of that size again.

What is interesting here in Florida is the rising number of 200 lb bucks in recent years. Just about every club I used to hunt has taken one or more a year lately. I watched a 210 lb 8 pt weighed on good scales last season. When I was hunting Florida, 180 lbs was about the biggest I ever saw. I killed that one on the Escambia River and he had wide skinny horns that probably score around 90". Why are Florida deer increasing in body weight? Baiting has been allowed since at least 1990 so it isn't that.

Interestingly, FL buck scores are going up as well. I know of 3 killed within 80 miles of my house in the last two years that were 140 or better. That was unheard of when I hunted here.


Like people, the older they get the heavier they get. More and more folks are letting bucks get older now days.

Probably what is happening now that you mention it. All of the local clubs are leased from RMS and they have a mandatory minimum harvest age of 3.5, no exceptions.
Posted By: buckhunter2

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/16/19 03:04 AM

I personally saw one hanging on the scales last yr that went 258#
Posted By: timbercruiser

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/16/19 12:22 PM

In NW Fl just below Samson in 1985 or so we were dog hunting and the dogs ran a buck across the road and a guy in a pickup hit it. The buck weighed 243 on the processor's scales.
Posted By: Ike McCaslin

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/16/19 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by buckhunter2
I personally saw one hanging on the scales last yr that went 258#


Aww hell...maybe with you and him both on the gambrel
Posted By: joshm28

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/17/19 01:55 AM

Not sure what this one will weigh but I would bet my paycheck itā€™s over 200
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Posted By: daylate

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/17/19 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by joshm28
Not sure what this one will weigh but I would bet my paycheck itā€™s over 200
[Linked Image]

Damn what a fat old buck. You better get that one soon or he will die of old age. When they get really "short legged" like that, they are old.
Posted By: crenshawco

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/17/19 02:27 AM

Yea that one's old as methuselah
Posted By: Wambaw

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/17/19 05:03 AM

I killed one this afternoon that weighed 210. Edge of soybean field in Orangeburg county. I weighed it myself. They are common in the area I hunt. Full velvet
Posted By: BCLC

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/17/19 05:19 AM

Originally Posted by Wambaw
I killed one this afternoon that weighed 210. Edge of soybean field in Orangeburg county. I weighed it myself. They are common in the area I hunt. Full velvet

Congrats!
Posted By: Reloader79

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/17/19 09:44 PM

Iā€™ve heard of some 350 pounders just never seen them!
Posted By: Clem

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/17/19 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by Wambaw
I killed one this afternoon that weighed 210. Edge of soybean field in Orangeburg county. I weighed it myself. They are common in the area I hunt. Full velvet


Congrats, Wambaw! Good start to the season!
Posted By: Booger

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/18/19 01:32 AM

Originally Posted by Wambaw
I killed one this afternoon that weighed 210. Edge of soybean field in Orangeburg county. I weighed it myself. They are common in the area I hunt. Full velvet

Congrats!!! But on here, pics or it never happened. I forgot August 15 was the manic day for you low country boys. Guess I better check on Capt. Buster and the gang on YouTube.
Posted By: timbercruiser

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 08/18/19 02:19 AM

I can't even imagine trying to deer hunt in this heat. I would quit first.
Posted By: Wambaw

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 10/19/19 08:16 PM

My 15 year old son killed one this morning out the same stand 208 lbs. 8 pt. It's not real uncommon.
Posted By: Sandmtnslayer

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 10/20/19 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Man pics of all these 250 lb bama deer are rarer than sasquatch pics.

Strange huh lol
Posted By: Peach

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 10/20/19 10:57 AM

There were some giants killed around Portland Landing and near the Cahaba River in the mid 70's. Soy beans and corn planted everywhere. We killed a 283 on a man drive.
Posted By: Fldoghunter

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 10/20/19 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Frankie
Think about this , nearly all the big deer back then we're kill because of dog hunting . If I remember right the one Troy stated was killed on a dog drive . Man drives are deadly on big bucks ..

They way a lot of us hunt ain't gonna see deer like this . They get 6/7 or older they hard to kill .


Just add this, imo a muture buck is 6 and ovet not 41/2 to 51/2

A 6 or 7 y/o buck is hard to kill in front of dogs too. Heck if a deer makes it through 3 seasons and he ain't dead yet, he's pretty smart. I think (around here anyway) still hunters kill more big bucks in dog hunt areas than they do in still hunt areas. The dogs make them move when in still hunt areas, all they have to do is lay around till pitch black dark.
Posted By: Fldoghunter

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 10/20/19 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by daylate
Maybe all these gigantic Saskatchewan sized Alabama deer were just before my time. I have been hunting or have known people hunting in Alabama since the mid seventies. The heaviest deer I have ever credibly heard of was a 230 lb 12 pt killed in Sumter County in the mid seventies. I saw the picture of that one and although I cannot verify the weight, it was a toad for sure. I, like others on here have said, would love to see some pictures of these gigantic bucks from the glory days. We may never see Alabama deer of that size again.

What is interesting here in Florida is the rising number of 200 lb bucks in recent years. Just about every club I used to hunt has taken one or more a year lately. I watched a 210 lb 8 pt weighed on good scales last season. When I was hunting Florida, 180 lbs was about the biggest I ever saw. I killed that one on the Escambia River and he had wide skinny horns that probably score around 90". Why are Florida deer increasing in body weight? Baiting has been allowed since at least 1990 so it isn't that.

Interestingly, FL buck scores are going up as well. I know of 3 killed within 80 miles of my house in the last two years that were 140 or better. That was unheard of when I hunted here.

2 things come to mind. People being more selective and realizing Florida can grow bigger deer. And the internet making finding out about big deer easier. People used to brag to a few buddies, now the post it 9n FB.
Posted By: Sasquatch Lives

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 10/20/19 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Peach
There were some giants killed around Portland Landing and near the Cahaba River in the mid 70's. Soy beans and corn planted everywhere. We killed a 283 on a man drive.

I hunted that area in the 80's and can attest to that fact. Man that place had the big bucks back then. Haven't hunted it in the past 25 years so don't know how it was then. We used to drive around the portland loop at night and saw some huge bucks. Saw one that had a rack so big he got caught up in a tangle of vines trying to run off the road and sat there thrashing around for a couple minutes trying to get loose. Booner.
Posted By: Peach

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 10/20/19 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Originally Posted by Peach
There were some giants killed around Portland Landing and near the Cahaba River in the mid 70's. Soy beans and corn planted everywhere. We killed a 283 on a man drive.

I hunted that area in the 80's and can attest to that fact. Man that place had the big bucks back then. Haven't hunted it in the past 25 years so don't know how it was then. We used to drive around the portland loop at night and saw some huge bucks. Saw one that had a rack so big he got caught up in a tangle of vines trying to run off the road and sat there thrashing around for a couple minutes trying to get loose. Booner.


We hunted all the land that bordered Portland. (Hit and Miss Hunting Lodge at that time) We had to drive through Portland to get to a few pieces of land. We had 12,000 acres of hardwoods and cropland to hunt.
Posted By: Nightwatchman

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 10/20/19 09:52 PM

I worked at a deer processor in Livingston AL back when I was in school at UWA. A guy brought in a monster buck to the processor and I put it on the scales myself. It weighed 248lbs. The man said he killed it just outside of Aliceville and he didn't really act like it was a big deal to kill one that big so that makes me think it wasn't all that uncommon in his area. The rack was also huge(no idea what it scored but it was much bigger than any deer I've ever seen dead or alive) but the guy who killed it told me he didn't intend to mount it, and that he didn't even care if he got the antlers back. So that makes me think it wasn't all that uncommon. I know I took a picture of it myself, and if I can find the pic I will try to figure out how to post it
Posted By: 2Dogs

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 10/20/19 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
I worked at a deer processor in Livingston AL back when I was in school at UWA. A guy brought in a monster buck to the processor and I put it on the scales myself. It weighed 248lbs. The man said he killed it just outside of Aliceville and he didn't really act like it was a big deal to kill one that big so that makes me think it wasn't all that uncommon in his area. The rack was also huge(no idea what it scored but it was much bigger than any deer I've ever seen dead or alive) but the guy who killed it told me he didn't intend to mount it, and that he didn't even care if he got the antlers back. So that makes me think it wasn't all that uncommon. I know I took a picture of it myself, and if I can find the pic I will try to figure out how to post it


Was that 248lbs live weight or field dressed?
Posted By: Nightwatchman

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 10/20/19 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
I worked at a deer processor in Livingston AL back when I was in school at UWA. A guy brought in a monster buck to the processor and I put it on the scales myself. It weighed 248lbs. The man said he killed it just outside of Aliceville and he didn't really act like it was a big deal to kill one that big so that makes me think it wasn't all that uncommon in his area. The rack was also huge(no idea what it scored but it was much bigger than any deer I've ever seen dead or alive) but the guy who killed it told me he didn't intend to mount it, and that he didn't even care if he got the antlers back. So that makes me think it wasn't all that uncommon. I know I took a picture of it myself, and if I can find the pic I will try to figure out how to post it


Was that 248lbs live weight or field dressed?


Live weight. I weighed it before I knocked the guts out of it.
Posted By: daylate

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 10/21/19 02:04 PM

The biggest Alabama deer I have seen alive was standing on the side of Hwy 41 in Sardis. It was late January, late at night, and pouring rain so hard you could barely tell where the pavement was. I was driving to Selma from Elm Bluff and saw a doe on my side of the road and was watching her in case she ran out in front of me. I glanced to the other side of the road and there stood the biggest rack buck I have ever seen. Don't even want to guess on weight but the horns were wide tall and heavy with points everywhere. My brother and I had come within a foot or two of hitting a big heavy horned 10 pt on Hwy 41 the night before....between Elm Bluff and Camden.
Posted By: Nightwatchman

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 10/22/19 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
I worked at a deer processor in Livingston AL back when I was in school at UWA. A guy brought in a monster buck to the processor and I put it on the scales myself. It weighed 248lbs. The man said he killed it just outside of Aliceville and he didn't really act like it was a big deal to kill one that big so that makes me think it wasn't all that uncommon in his area. The rack was also huge(no idea what it scored but it was much bigger than any deer I've ever seen dead or alive) but the guy who killed it told me he didn't intend to mount it, and that he didn't even care if he got the antlers back. So that makes me think it wasn't all that uncommon. I know I took a picture of it myself, and if I can find the pic I will try to figure out how to post it


Was that 248lbs live weight or field dressed?


Live weight. I weighed it before I knocked the guts out of it.


I found the picture. I will send it to someone if they'd like to post it. I haven't really bothered to figure out how to post pictures.
Posted By: Hunting-231

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 10/22/19 03:04 AM

200lbs is not uncommon in the Pike Road area outside Montgomery.
Posted By: surgical_grade

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 10/22/19 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
I worked at a deer processor in Livingston AL back when I was in school at UWA. A guy brought in a monster buck to the processor and I put it on the scales myself. It weighed 248lbs. The man said he killed it just outside of Aliceville and he didn't really act like it was a big deal to kill one that big so that makes me think it wasn't all that uncommon in his area. The rack was also huge(no idea what it scored but it was much bigger than any deer I've ever seen dead or alive) but the guy who killed it told me he didn't intend to mount it, and that he didn't even care if he got the antlers back. So that makes me think it wasn't all that uncommon. I know I took a picture of it myself, and if I can find the pic I will try to figure out how to post it

It's definitely not abnormal for deer in that area with regard to body weight. 200+ pounds is nearly as common for a mature deer as <200 pounds. The deer density now for that area is less on average than it was 15 years ago and average weights are down a tad on average as well. But in the area that is still in production, deer are still larger than most in terms of body weight. Their racks are good, too, but they are not much different than any of the other above average areas in the state.
Posted By: jmudler

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 10/22/19 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
I worked at a deer processor in Livingston AL back when I was in school at UWA. A guy brought in a monster buck to the processor and I put it on the scales myself. It weighed 248lbs. The man said he killed it just outside of Aliceville and he didn't really act like it was a big deal to kill one that big so that makes me think it wasn't all that uncommon in his area. The rack was also huge(no idea what it scored but it was much bigger than any deer I've ever seen dead or alive) but the guy who killed it told me he didn't intend to mount it, and that he didn't even care if he got the antlers back. So that makes me think it wasn't all that uncommon. I know I took a picture of it myself, and if I can find the pic I will try to figure out how to post it


Was that 248lbs live weight or field dressed?


Live weight. I weighed it before I knocked the guts out of it.


I found the picture. I will send it to someone if they'd like to post it. I haven't really bothered to figure out how to post pictures.

PM me or email jmudler(AT)gmail.com
Posted By: WmHunter

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 10/22/19 06:10 PM

I have killed a couple that were in the 225-230 range.
But they are imaginary deer.
Posted By: wew3006

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 10/22/19 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by oldbowhunter
There is a picture at Ezells (original one) of a 299 pound buck weighed on cotton scales.

It was killed by Dave Barr Tutt in Nanafalia. I heard the story from the horses mouth several times
over the years and it is a heck of a story. It looks like a Canada deer.


now; Dave Barr could tell a story
Posted By: jmudler

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 10/23/19 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by jmudler
Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
[quote=Nightwatchman]I worked at a deer processor in Livingston AL back when I was in school at UWA. A guy brought in a monster buck to the processor and I put it on the scales myself. It weighed 248lbs. The man said he killed it just outside of Aliceville and he didn't really act like it was a big deal to kill one that big so that makes me think it wasn't all that uncommon in his area. The rack was also huge(no idea what it scored but it was much bigger than any deer I've ever seen dead or alive) but the guy who killed it told me he didn't intend to mount it, and that he didn't even care if he got the antlers back. So that makes me think it wasn't all that uncommon. I know I took a picture of it myself, and if I can find the pic I will try to figure out how to post it


Was that 248lbs live weight or field dressed?


Live weight. I weighed it before I knocked the guts out of it.


I found the picture. I will send it to someone if they'd like to post it. I haven't really bothered to figure out how to post pictures.



Posting for Nightwatchman
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Posted By: Wambaw

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 12/04/19 01:42 AM

Weighed another one today out the same stand. 190 lbs 9 pt.

I just got a set of a scales a couple years ago at my house/walk in cooler. Just to see what the weights are. People always ask what a deer weighed. I honestly have never cared.
Posted By: jb20

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 12/04/19 01:49 AM

I thought about posting on this Saturday but didnt...my buddy killed a 9pt that bottomed out 250lb scales broke his winch cable twice...it was well over 250 live weight
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Posted By: Mbrock

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 12/04/19 01:56 AM

I weighed a 218 a couple weeks ago.
Posted By: 2Dogs

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 12/04/19 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by Mbrock
I weighed a 218 a couple weeks ago.


218 field dressed is a white face beef.
Posted By: Mbrock

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 12/04/19 02:43 AM

Live weight. Iā€™ve weighed quite a few the last few years from 200-241.
Posted By: slayinbucks24/7

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 12/04/19 02:47 AM

Was a 215lb'r brought in last week at our place. His horns didnt disappoint either!!
Posted By: catdoctor

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 12/04/19 05:11 AM

In 1975 I killed a 8 point that weighted 245 live weight and i think it was 1980 I killed a 6 point that went 235 live weight. My son was 14 when he killed an 8 point that weighted 215 in 1999.
My two deer were killed during the heyday of soybeans being farmed all around Wilcox County. I now consider anything over 200 pounds exceptional deer for us eating nothing but plants and acorns in the woods.
Posted By: 2Dogs

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 12/04/19 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Mbrock
Live weight. Iā€™ve weighed quite a few the last few years from 200-241.


Ooops, I thought for sure you were talking field dressed on that 218. I figured there were deer in the Bankhead area that big and bigger.
Posted By: Sasquatch Lives

Re: HUGE Bucks of th' 60's/70's - 12/04/19 07:43 PM

I shot one one time that was so heavy when we managed to get it in the back of the truck both rear tires popped.
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