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Deer do grow big...

Posted By: outdoors1

Deer do grow big... - 04/11/19 04:10 PM

In Alabama. If these would just get out!

http://www.theswampwhitetails.com
Posted By: Remington270

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/11/19 04:17 PM

"CLIENTS ENJOY FAIR CHASE HUNTING ON A DIVERSE LANDSCAPE" rofl slap

1,500 acres that's fenced in. Must be free-range deer in the big pen.
Posted By: dagwood

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/11/19 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Remington270
"CLIENTS ENJOY FAIR CHASE HUNTING ON A DIVERSE LANDSCAPE" rofl slap

1,500 acres that's fenced in. Must be free-range deer in the big pen.



I noticed that too. Contradiction in terms.
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/11/19 04:58 PM

who owns that place?
Posted By: ceramice

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/11/19 06:33 PM

And the deer are sorted by antler size into various sub-paddocks so that you can hunt in the size range that you pay for.
Posted By: GomerPyle

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/11/19 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by Remington270
"CLIENTS ENJOY FAIR CHASE HUNTING ON A DIVERSE LANDSCAPE" rofl slap

1,500 acres that's fenced in. Must be free-range deer in the big pen.


That's rich
Posted By: UncleHuck

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/11/19 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by ceramice
And the deer are sorted by antler size into various sub-paddocks so that you can hunt in the size range that you pay for.


I have hunted high fence ranches before, and have never seen this. Occasionally, there are breeder pens inside the larger enclosure, but they aren't hunted.

Every place I have hunted high fence whitetail deer (1500 acres up to almost 6000) has one fence around the perimeter. I have never hunted this particular operation, or any outside of Texas for that matter.
Posted By: Corn Dog

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/11/19 07:40 PM

What a joke
Posted By: Shotts

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/11/19 10:59 PM

Pretty nice two year olds there. I can see why we would never want those genetics in the wild of Alabama.
Posted By: Gary08

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/13/19 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by BhamFred
who owns that place?


The owner of Burke’s mechanical. Don’t know his name but my brother did some work there when he worked for Burke’s
Posted By: AU338MAG

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/13/19 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by BhamFred
who owns that place?

John Travis. 😀
Posted By: pcola4

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/13/19 07:04 PM

Looks like a good write off. I don't know why anyone would spend that kind of money just to kill a deer.
Posted By: Ben2

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/13/19 10:46 PM

They are not all grown there. Think they get deliveries yearly
Posted By: Stob

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/13/19 11:19 PM

SMH. Nothing more than a zoo.
Posted By: top cat

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/13/19 11:22 PM

I can't get to the pictures just the video
Posted By: Skullworks

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/14/19 01:06 AM

Pricing looks pretty much in line with others.
Posted By: James

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/14/19 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by top cat
I can't get to the pictures just the video
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/14/19 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by Ben2
They are not all grown there. Think they get deliveries yearly


you cannot raise enough buck to shooting size on 99% of those places, so they have to buy bucks to have enough to sell.
Posted By: Ben2

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/14/19 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by BhamFred
Originally Posted by Ben2
They are not all grown there. Think they get deliveries yearly


you cannot raise enough buck to shooting size on 99% of those places, so they have to buy bucks to have enough to sell.

If they want to make money they have to have a lot to shoot
Posted By: timbercruiser

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/14/19 02:00 PM

I wondered if I was the only one that couldn't get the pictures of the deer to load up. They are growing the bucks bigger/faster on the farms for the clients. If they can show a client a 2 1/2 year old to shoot and the client is happy the farm doesn't have to grow the buck to 4 or 5, quicker raised target less cost. Like any other product that can be produced quicker. I remember in the 70's we had broiler chickens and they wanted us to keep them till they were a little over 8 weeks old for slaughter, had to get the average size chicken that the company wanted. Now they are probably killing the chickens at 6 1/2 or less weeks old. Same with hogs or cattle.
Posted By: AU338MAG

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/14/19 02:11 PM

Some of these places have to shoot the bucks at what we would consider too young, say 3-1/2 YO, because their headgear gets too big. Someone showed me a picture of a buck he shot last fall with a bow at one of these places. It was a huge, freakish rack but the body and head looked young. He told me it was 3-1/2 and scored 405" .
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/14/19 02:14 PM

they want to grow em big FAST, so they can sell em a younger age. Less time/money in them, less chance of death by injury or sickness before selling.
Posted By: RNabors

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/14/19 02:18 PM

I couldn’t get the pics to load either. But I agree with the chickens. Doesn’t take long at all for one to be ready to eat these days
Posted By: Cuz-Pat

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/14/19 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by Ben2
They are not all grown there. Think they get deliveries yearly


For those who can't see the PICS there are tons of huge bucks in the PICS.

My first thought was, how do they raise that many bucks on a place?

So, if they are purchased, where are they bought from?

Alabama has a law against importing deer from any other states.

Are all these huge bucks being purchased here in Alabama?
Posted By: top cat

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/14/19 07:16 PM




Finally got the deer pics to open WOW... Then I checked prices. NOOOO
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/14/19 08:21 PM

lots of big bucks produced in Alabama and sold in Alabama
Posted By: slippinlipjr

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/14/19 08:38 PM

All it takes is one good hurricane or tornado......
Posted By: Reloader79

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/15/19 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by BhamFred
who owns that place?


Herbie Burke’s Jr.
Posted By: timbercruiser

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/15/19 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by slippinlipjr
All it takes is one good hurricane or tornado......


A friend told me that Hurricane Michael blew down 11 high fence areas between Bristol and Marianna, Fl.
Posted By: Shotts

Re: Deer do grow big... - 04/15/19 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by Cuz-Pat
Originally Posted by Ben2
They are not all grown there. Think they get deliveries yearly


For those who can't see the PICS there are tons of huge bucks in the PICS.

My first thought was, how do they raise that many bucks on a place?

So, if they are purchased, where are they bought from?

Alabama has a law against importing deer from any other states.

Are all these huge bucks being purchased here in Alabama?


There are I think 158 licenses game breeders in the state. I know everyone here likes to hate on the industry and it being nothing but rich guys. However the truth is a lot of families and mom and pop farms make a living raising stocker bucks for these operations. Alabama is a closed border state, so unless they are breaking the law then the deer were raised onsite or by a smaller breeding operation. The majority of these stocker bucks are sold at two years old in the 120-200” class. I think the breeders generally get 50% of the total price they shoot for. So if you can raise 25 shooters in athe 180 class a year then you can net 75-80k. However it is hard work so unless you like high risk (15-20% annual attrition more in bad EHD years, building fences, mowing feeding., and general farm type work I would not recommend it. I was out to 3am this morning and back at it at 8 to 5:30 today as my wife’s uncles farms fence was damaged. He didn’t loose a single deer tho as he literally stood in the rain for 45 mins after the tornado went though keeping them corralled until help could get there and get the fence patched. The genetics are in Alabama are as good as anywhere in the country now most farms are shooting for 180” two year olds now.
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