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Walker Co. Lease prices?

Posted By: Bama Bob

Walker Co. Lease prices? - 04/19/17 02:40 PM

I'm looking at getting 300 acres to hunt next season (Walker Co.) but the land owner doesn't know what a "fair price" would be. The area is currently all mature woods but tree thinning may start summer of 2018.

It has a gravel road along one edge and the whole property is steep hills and valleys.

Is $5 to $10 an acre the going price?
Posted By: muddyfeet

Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? - 04/19/17 03:17 PM

5 to 6 an acre
Posted By: Bamarich2

Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? - 04/19/17 03:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Bama Bob
... the whole property is steep hills and valleys.


Lol... you already mentioned the place was in Walker County. wink
Posted By: DaBreeze

Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? - 04/19/17 07:30 PM

300 acres of Hills and valleys might fit on 30 acres of flat ground
Posted By: turkey247

Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? - 04/19/17 08:49 PM

Originally Posted By: DaBreeze
300 acres of Hills and valleys might fit on 30 acres of flat ground


Dewhat?? Other way around.

A grid is a grid. STR's (Section, Township, Range) are overlayed on the earth's surface in most of the U.S. Take 40 "flat" acres. The only way to get a bit more "land" is to have contours (steeper terrain).
Posted By: trlrdrdave

Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? - 04/19/17 08:56 PM

Originally Posted By: turkey247
Originally Posted By: DaBreeze
300 acres of Hills and valleys might fit on 30 acres of flat ground


Dewhat?? Other way around.

A grid is a grid. STR's (Section, Township, Range) are overlayed on the earth's surface in most of the U.S. Take 40 "flat" acres. The only way to get a bit more "land" is to have contours (steeper terrain).


Are yall not saying the same thing?
Posted By: turkey247

Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? - 04/19/17 09:30 PM

Originally Posted By: trlrdrdave


Are yall not saying the same thing?


Good question!

My point is that you get more surface area on hilly terrain, not less. Acres are measured as a horizontal measurement. An acre is an acre. But you would have more ground surface area on land with terrain as compared to flat ground. Some may say you get more acres, but technically you get more surface area. It would take a bigger blanket to cover a hilly 40 acres than a blanket to cover a flat 40.
Posted By: DaBreeze

Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? - 04/19/17 09:52 PM

Originally Posted By: turkey247
Originally Posted By: DaBreeze
300 acres of Hills and valleys might fit on 30 acres of flat ground


Dewhat?? Other way around.

A grid is a grid. STR's (Section, Township, Range) are overlayed on the earth's surface in most of the U.S. Take 40 "flat" acres. The only way to get a bit more "land" is to have contours (steeper terrain).


You right! I was bassackwards.
Posted By: trlrdrdave

Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? - 04/19/17 10:22 PM

Now I am really caldfused!
Posted By: 3FFarms

Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? - 04/19/17 10:57 PM


Originally Posted By: turkey247
Originally Posted By: trlrdrdave


Are yall not saying the same thing?


Good question!

My point is that you get more surface area on hilly terrain, not less. Acres are measured as a horizontal measurement. An acre is an acre. But you would have more ground surface area on land with terrain as compared to flat ground. Some may say you get more acres, but technically you get more surface area. It would take a bigger blanket to cover a hilly 40 acres than a blanket to cover a flat 40.


So would 40 hilly acres support more tpa than flat ground, possibly leading to a higher timber value on steeper terrain?
Posted By: turkey247

Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? - 04/20/17 09:06 AM

Originally Posted By: 3FFarms



So would 40 hilly acres support more tpa than flat ground, possibly leading to a higher timber value on steeper terrain?


Yes, but it is so minimal it is not considered in volume calculations.
Posted By: DaBreeze

Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? - 04/20/17 10:24 AM

If interested, Here is a good explanation
Mash here
Posted By: Blackwater_Reb

Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? - 04/20/17 11:05 AM

Originally Posted By: muddyfeet
5 to 6 an acre


Spot on. I pay $5/ac for one lease and $6/ac for another.

Here is a thread from last season…

http://www.aldeer.com/forum/ubbthreads.p...772#Post1941772
Posted By: Rebelman

Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? - 04/20/17 11:36 AM


Originally Posted By: 3FFarms

Originally Posted By: turkey247
Originally Posted By: trlrdrdave


Are yall not saying the same thing?


Good question!

My point is that you get more surface area on hilly terrain, not less. Acres are measured as a horizontal measurement. An acre is an acre. But you would have more ground surface area on land with terrain as compared to flat ground. Some may say you get more acres, but technically you get more surface area. It would take a bigger blanket to cover a hilly 40 acres than a blanket to cover a flat 40.


So would 40 hilly acres support more tpa than flat ground, possibly leading to a higher timber value on steeper terrain?


Unfortunately, there isn't anymore crown space on hilly terrain.
Posted By: garykwray

Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? - 04/20/17 01:15 PM

The cheapest lease price I've seen anywhere is $7 per acre.
Posted By: crocker

Re: Walker Co. Lease prices? - 04/21/17 06:59 AM

I would start at $1000.
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