Monster 14 point

Late post... I was fortunate enough to be hunting on some very good property in nirthern alabama. Pelham to be exact.. Dont have much time to post the story but will update very soon... Hardwood bottom following a doe... 14 points with double drop tines that were unfortunately broken off. 190 pounds
Can anyone guess the score before I post our rough score of him??
Also please someone text me and post some pics please
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I'd say a solid 115" all day on that one.

I'm thinking a little more. You will see.

How in the world is one gonna accurately gonna judge something with so little information?

I think the excitement has done damaged your thoughts.

Congrats on the success though.

Awaiting pics.

Oh, and 167 3/8

God Bless,
David B.

I can't find any pictures

Text me and upload my pics please 2515970351

Did you text him?








God Bless,
David B.

Based on the fine pics I might give him 123"

I sent him a text. I think they have to be processed through timber2 before they can be released.

Y'all are being VERY generous. I say a modest 103"

Hopefully this doesn't turn into another Timber....

You serious Clarke?

here it is ill get the other 2 up when i can photo bucket is acting up

stud

High fence or free range? Nice buck I change my score to 105"

Release the hounds

I'll guess 136 gross

I'm going 142"

I hear em sounding off!

I wasn't far off!

And Pelham ain't north AL.

and so everyone knows his story matches up with the photo location lol this isn't timbers brother

I think the issue with timber was the time stamp and also he has a charge for hunting over bait and some of the pics looked sketchy as hwll

the time stamp looks right on this one

Congrats on a fine buck! I lived in Pelham for 20 years seen some biguns come from around there.

Sorry took so long. Photobucket...

Is that corn on the ground in the bottom picture?

Thanks man.. I appreciate it!!

146.5 Great buck!

congrats on a very fine deer, lots of character. gross over 140.

but you might be a redneck if you take a pic of yer deer head in the shower....

Very nice deer Johntravis89. It's obvious that's an honest kill man. You gona get a little ribbing and if you let it get to ya you gona get alot. Congrats on that one. Very nice.

i don't think anyones hating on you man i told you i thought it was a nice buck in the message we had a guy on here a few weeks ago who was putting up pictures of deer he either didn't kill/photoshopped/or killed illegally and all the comments before the picture was just jokes. no one on this forum is a hater we try to lift each other up like i said what a great buck

Congrats

Might want to slow your roll man. No ones bashing your deer. We just like to have a lil fun around here

Thanks I appreciate it. But I guess the pics aren't doing him justice.
He's rough scored at 168 1/4.
I could take more pics if needed he's in my deep freezer. But once he drys for I think the game warden said 60 days then I can get him scored offically!! Counting down the days

You haven't been here long have you, LOL. This place will bite the hand that feeds them.

Congrats on a fine buck, but expect to be questioned, finger printed, some DNA samples will be needed from the buck, stomach contents from the buck, copy of your hunting license, proof of Alabama residence, a typed, double spaced letter from your pastor of your integrity, a lie detector test, and a detailed report of how the hunt was conducted, what equipment was used, what you ate before the hunt, and whether you peed from your stand, put it in a container, or just sat in misery and peed all over yourself after seeing the deer.

It's Aldeer, get used to it.


God Bless,
David B.

That's a stud.

Congratulations ! Heck of a deer!

Fine buck right there. Going to guess before deductions 129

Wow, I would never have guessed 168, was thinking more like low 140s gross. Congrats on a great deer. Who pulled tape on it?

awesome deer..congrats

Do not seek the treasure. Do not seek the treasure

Are you sure you weren't using the metric side of that measuring tape?


Sorry, I smelled blood in the water so I went for a bite. Very fine buck!! Congrats on your success.

Congratulations! One hekuva buck.

One of those Pelham mountain men if I had to guess...

Gross 155 Net 140

Awesome deer man...monster I'm talkin bout!!

At first glance I had 150s in mind. ^^^^^ ridgestalkers guess sounds bout right

Congrats! Fine deer you got yourself there!

Who was this directed at? How did you view anything anyone said as "hating"? If you are referring to me about the low score I guess you didn't pickup on the extreme sarcasm and I did say nice buck. Actually helluva buck. Congrats. Post up a detailed story of how it went down

Is that a broken drop tine on the right side or just a little sticker?

Congrats on a heck of a deer.

The mountains of Pelham Alabama have some shonuff deliverance types

Oak Mountain deer someone's yard deer? Nice deer! You almost had a you a rare droptine buck.

We're not bashing your deer or trying to take the wind out of your sails. We're just jealous.

Congratulations on a great buck!

That's a hoss. Has character and hufe bases. It's a shame he broke the drops off.

Dang nice deer. Congrats

Killed at my good buddy's place in Pelham called Double Mountain preserve. He has high fence and free range. Really good genes grant and kent upton have gotten put together at their farm.

This ^

Fine deer right there. Outstanding job!

That's exactly right!! I wasn't gonna put Their names out there but oh well!! Very fine place and Kent and Grant are 2 of the nicest people I've ever met! Grant even offered to let me use his bow bc we both have a bigger passion for archery then rifle !! The free range side is absolutely beautiful!! I was sitting on a mountain side towards the top part and you look down into the bottom. Got to the stand at 2:45. Seen a couple does and two more small bucks chasing. And I heard something about 3:15. It was him. 50 yards in front but to my right a little bit. He got behind some stuff so I didn't take the shot and he disappeared. 5 minutes later he somehow snuck within 20 yards straight below me. ( can't see bc the ladder is wrapped with a blind around it. ) he sees me and takes off into the bottom. He gone. I'm sick. Texting dad and telling him about I seen a monster. And blah blah blah. Sat the phone down just kept lookin along and at 3:39 I caught movement about 60 yards into the bottom and it was him trying his best to sneak through all wearily and sneaky. I yelled at him and his shoulder had limbs in front of it so I had to take the lethal neck shot!! He flipped backwards and was done for! I was using a Tikka 7mm08. Grant guess the deer will gross around 170. One of my buddy's pulled tape. Not accurate. But a good guess!! Thanks everyone

Gross in the 150's without the drops

Whatever the score is, that's a sweet buck!

Great deer congrats.

I imagine he will be 150s gross. Maybe a little less

You forgot rectal examination; that's why so many in here smell like shucks 'cause they like to crawl up your *ss whenever you post pics of your kills... LOL

Nice buck, dude!

BGD

Awesome deer. I would have crapped myself.

You can have it officially scored with Buckmasters and Alabama Whitetail Records now. Neither of them require a drying time. Look up Steve Lucas on Facebook he's the regional director for Buckmasters and he is an official scorer for both organizations. If you don't have Facebook but you are interested in having him score your deer, send me a message on here and I'll give you his number.

I guess 162

Very nice buck.Congrats!!

So was this a high fence or free range kill?

Free range

10/4, beautiful buck!

Lots of times the high Fence deer escape and become free range deer from my experience. Regardless awesome deer and great story. I have not seen any chasing at my house in pelham yet this year, it's usually around Christmas time. Congrats on a great trophy!

Congrats on the kill. How much did he weigh?

I would consider Pelham central Al not North Al. Nice deer !

I would have said solid 150's for sure. I could see 160's

Nice deer! I want one.

Congrats on a great buck! Beautiful!

153

Congrats! Good job and a nice buck!

Well me and two of my buddy's just scored my buck with string and a tape measure... 164.5. I'm nowhere near an expert scorer on bucks but we took our time and didn't give him any extra. I was very strict with the tape measure. Thanks for all the positive compliments about my deer!! Good luck to everyone else this hunting season!!

1st i would like to say congrats on a great buck, But i was asked by the owners which are not ALDEER members to let everyone know that this deer was killed INSIDE the preserve! They do not want to mislead anyone. They offer great hunts inside and also on the free range. But on the free range you should expect to be hunting average alabama whitetail. They have had calls because of this post with people asking ab free range hunts & is this the quality of deer they offer. They would like for everyone to know the truth!

I wonder how much 160" buck cost?

Hey buddy I don't know you and I hate to start any problems but I know the Upton's very well and none of them are going to stand behind you when it comes to a lie like that. They provide free range hunts and preserve hunts but ur buck was def a breeder buck released 12 days before u killed it.

And the plot thickens, are yall sure this isn't timber2 in disguise lol?

Hahaha. This will be Aldeer gold. Or he disappears never to be heard from again..... Timber2 style

Wow. You don't see me sitting here screaming free range or inside of a high fence. This isn't a debate on where my deer was killed. It's how much it scores we are discussing. But I sure do appreciate you bashing my biggest kill ever!!

Son don't come on here lying about your BS trophy kill. This isn't pee wees playhouse. Take that shucks somewhere else.

There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??

No sense in trying to crawfish now!

Well I bee dam. Why do some people have to lie? Why even post this knowing your gonna be caught in a lie. Ignorance

Gotta be timbers anorexic cousin pine sapling

Free range in the big pen.... Hmmmm are you stoopid or something???

Sorry bud, but you aren't going to get much sympathy after lying to everyone. This bunch can smell a rat from miles away, weeks before it dies.

Damn. Now that was funny!

Wait, double drop tine deer don't run around all over in the mountains of Pelham? Horse hockey! I paid good money for my Aldeer platinum membership to learn how to kill the big nontypicals in Pelham, AL. I want a refund!! Leroy, make sure my PayPal gets refunded through our super-duper high tech refund system, please sir.

Thank you Aldeer.... only you can give me this level of entertainment!

Holy smokes, someone needs to make that their signature.

And I wanted to go to bed early. Not now. This will be gettin good in a minute

Guys, it was a deer that had free range inside the big pen... What's so hard to understand about that? It's not like he was tied to a tree....

That might be my new favorite aldeer phrase lol.

He was 12 days ago!

How big is the big pen?

Shoulda known we had problems here when he said the mountains of north Alabama way up yonder in Pelham. Here's your sign

What does it cost to kill one like that

It was called from the beginning!

That's a damn yearling for a high fence deer anyway.

When those bucks in the mountains of Pelham Alabama start walking around you all wearily and sneaky you just gotta yell at em and take that neck shot.

Hey man, this ain't peewees playhouse

that didn't take long ...

The truth will set you free... And I'm not talking in the BIG PEN!!

When in doubt shoot the neck out

I bet corn flies everywhere with a neck shot on a free range big pen bruiser

Only when you yell STOP to him.

I just looked at the place on google maps, the only high fenced area I could make out was about 75-100 acres. You can clearly see small breeder buck pens inside of the so called BIG pen. This was a " shake the popcorn bag at him when they cut him loose from the tree" kind of hunt.

What was your deer's name?

When you brought him in did they have a name for him? Something like you killed ole Joe.

Pee wee

Come on everybody, give little Johnny a break... Daddy bought him a "free range" buck in the mountainous peaks of remote Pelham, Alabama and all he gets on his favorite deer hunting forum is relentless heckling. How dare y'all treat little Johnny in this manner..

I'm gonna brew a cup of coffee and pop some corn. This is just too entertaining to go to sleep right now.

Like a feeder going off. I wonder how many he had to scare away to get to the monster 14 point

Who woulda thunk it ... The free range in the big pen quote has me rolling

I don't care to ever hunt in a fence, but it's legal and I don't care if you do it, but when people say they killed a deer free range and then I find out it was a fenced deer it really changes things.

Of course I'm not talking about the one in this thread, because it was free range in the big fence. I'm talking about the guys that kill the not free range ones in the fence.

Damn'it boy.....i woke up to take a leak and got on here to see this. Oh well, i was gonna get up at 2:45 anyways....no need in going back to sleep.

Just how big are the mountains of Pelham?

Met this real nice girl that I want to marry, she's a 9 out of 10 and never so much as even looked at a pecker. What a catch....now she lives in a whore house but she is "Free Range"

I wonder if he removed the ear tags or the free range buck broke them off with his two drop tines. No one ever did say how much it cost to hunt and kill a free range buck in that pen. I also wonder if it was like a pet that came running when you rattled corn in a coffee can ? Will the truth ever come out ? Guess he's putting his story on another forum now.

Y'all act like y'all don't know the difference between a free range fenced deer and a not free range fenced deer.

Free Range Big Fence Deer


Not Free Range Big Fence Deer

Lmao

Not only is it a memory you will never forget but i'm pretty sure it's a memory that nobody around here will ever forget either.

Y'all didn't run him off already did y'all??? Least he lasted a little longer than timber. I'll gladly take credit for being the first to mention it turning out like Timbers post so I'll go ahead and add his big pen comment quote to my sig

What tipped me off (besides Pelham being central Alabama and non mountainous) was the pic with an obvious guide in it and of course exaggerated score which usually means exaggerated story

Better back up and punt....SuperSpike gets the credit on this one.

Oh well I claimed it first so punt deez homebuttboi!

Can't believe nobody has stalked pics of mom yet

Just so we're clear about this! Travis is NOT an FSU fan!


BTW, if you were to say that you watch Bama or auburn play inside the stadium. Do you mean on your couch by way of a CBS camera that is inside the stadium?

The truth will set you free!
Nice buck, if you hadn't been deceitful about where it was killed it would have saved you a lot of grief.

Little Johnny apparently believes free range means that the guide didn't have to use a cattle prod up the artificially conceived deer's arse to move it from the breeder pen to the "Big" pen.

Why anyone would come on aldeer and post a buck like that and not expect us to know.. We may be dumb... but we know where every buck is killed

Damit, I was busy and didn't follow this thread yesterday, Whoa Nelly! Pee wee's play house up in here. And it ain't even a big high fence buck.

Ol buddy , you best crawl in a high fence hole and hide, this bunch will brang the pain and won't let up .

These are my favorite of his comments...

"I put in hour after hour every hunting season"


"I caught movement about 60 yards into the bottom and it was him trying his best to sneak through all wearily and sneaky. I yelled at him and his shoulder had limbs in front of it so I had to take the lethal neck shot!!"

Little Johnny apparently believes free range means that the guide didn't have to use a cattle prod up the artificially conceived deer's arse to move it from the breeder pen to the "Big" pen.

If you would have just said "Look at this deer I killed on a preserve" you could have saved yourself a bunch of typing and gotten beaten up about it anyway.

daum, thats going to leave a burnt spot....

I liked the hour after hour too.

Also the completely unnecessary line, "Grant even offered to let me use his bow bc we both have a bigger passion for archery then rifle !! ". Then,.. BLAM 7mm-08

Great big pen harvest!!

I take my congratulations back jackass. Now go eat some cake pine sapling man.

Hunting free range in the big pen!!!!

I thought that was hilarious too. I also love Archery Hunting.....with a 45-70.

This place is right by my house. I sent my buddy that picture, and he said "free range" my azz. That is quite a big operation there, but their aint nothing free range about it.

You go home from work and look what you miss.

I know man. Should have kept up last night. The folks that run that place are very nice people from what ive been told, but again there aint a dang thing free range about it.

Another great reason why I don't let pics of big bucks get to me on here...

LOL this is great. I love this place.

By my math he's up to two hours hunting experience already so I'll be watching for his upcoming TV show.

Actually you did say free range and added 100% to it.

Sorry skillet but that bird already flew.

They must have had that buck on one of those yard cables people use for dogs so they can run back and forth about 30 yards. That's the only way I can figure that 160 kept trying to sneaky sneak past that ladder stand.

You'd think that a business like that would be able to afford some landscapers to come in a clear some of those pesky branches out of the way so you could a get a decent shoulder shot! Sheesh.

1. He at least has the correct grammar to tell a hunting story.
2. I hate that some limbs forced him to take that lethal neck shot. That's gonna cost a few more dollars at the taxidermist.
3. Why yell at him when his shoulder is behind limbs?
4. Anyone else think he saw him 3 times because the "big pen" wouldn't let him get farther than 60 yards?
5. Wearily?
6. I love this place.

He was trying to get back in the pen. He knew where home was.

I take mine back as well..Lying basterd.I don't understand why people do this chit.

Sonofabitch. What goes through some folks minds? I honestly don't understand the point of lying, especially to group of people you have never met that honestly don't give a rat's ass where you killed it as long as it was legal and you're honest. What a f-stick.

And why don't these asshats ever own up to lying and their BS? They just disappear like a pussy. I bet he has a pet cat too.

Still wouldn't mind hearing what someone pays for a buck like that (aside from the hours after hours of hard huntin)

This guy posted on the bow forum a few weeks back saying he had shot an 8pt on a food plot on Perdido WMA. I asked if he had found him and then nuthin. A good friend of mine said he's already had his ass handed to him on the PFF. I figured this was probably gonna be BS from the get go. It really makes me some kind of mad to see people do this.

Wow, just wow. Free range in the big pen.... I don't believe I'd told that!!!!!

oh my damn!

Was pissed that nobody was discussing his hunt, then left everyone hanging

http://www.aldeer.com/forum/ubbthreads.p...828#Post1893828

3-4k I would think. This deer was probably the red headed step child out of the bunch I'm sure.

Man, if I were John I think I�d have to come back on here and clear this up before it gets out of hand. The worst thing he can do is just sit back and not respond�.JMO

During my tenure at Academy, I attended a lot of hunts hosted by manufacturers like Strike King and Mossy Oak. The Mossy Oak boys do it right and still hunt the way I like to hunt. But I was totally turned off by a hunt hosted by StealthCam at the Nooner Ranch in Hondo, TX. Sammy Nooner is the first deer breeder to pay over $1Million for a breeder buck. I asked ahead of time and was told that portions of the ranch were free range and other portions high fenced. So I accepted. Turned out to be all high fence. Some "hunting" enclosures were as small at 100 acres. Total canned hunt in my opinion. I did the gracious guest routine and hung around camp, but no way was I shooting anybody's domesticated livestock under the guise of hunting. One of the invitees shot a 170" buck and StealthCam gladly paid the $9,600 trophy fee. A group of 180-class bucks were feeding behind the lodge while Sammy and I sat on the back porch. He said, "Don't you want to kill a buck like that? You are welcome to." I replied, "Yes sir I do want to kill a buck like that, but only if it is under free range fair chase conditions." To this day I have no appetite for Outdoor Channel shows built around this kind of "hunt."

North of I-10 is north Alabama

You have better self control than I do.

I would have shot one and let them pay for it. I might even name it cow or something.

Is too.

I feel the same way. I don't care if it's paid for or not I'm not shooting a fenced in deer.

He posted his phine number in his first post on this thread. Call him up.

Exactly my feelings as well WB. That's the reason I hunt public land as much as I do.

Then there was the hunt I attended at Ray Murski's ranch in Meridian, TX. His ranch was just about 6,000 acres high fenced. I accepted the invite based on my opinion that it would be fair chase hunting that size area. Well, by daylight the next morning I'm looking at 38 racked bucks in a greenfield. I turn to the guide and ask, "does every deer on this ranch have a tag in its ear?" He says, "Oh yeah. Every one of these deer is pen raised and then released." I asked if there was any place where I could hunt a free range deer, and he said yes. He took me to an unfenced area of the ranch and I killed a nice 10 point that is considered inferior by their standards, but I was glad to have harvested him on my terms. It turned out to be win-win because Ray graciously accommodated me and I didn't shoot his pen raised livestock.

I don't see what public land has to do with not hunting high fence

Somebody call or text him and get his azz back on here to defend himself like a man

You had me till you tried to tell us you used a 7-08. Everybody on Aldeer knows it takes a minimum of 7mag to kill a deer.

Pics of his mom or this didn't happen

Free Range - Where the deer and the antelope play
Small Pen - Bottle fed pen for the fawns
Big Pen - Where the daddy deer range

Just how big are these pens?

Well I was really joking around with that but unfortunately this turned out bad for him. I wish guys on here would just be straight with their kills and they won't have to go into hiding because of public humiliation. I'm happy for the guy on his kill regardless but now it's going to be hard for him to enjoy the moment because of stretching the truth. Just do like me, don't kill big deer and you won't have to worry about all of this.

Is this in your shower???

We're gonna need to pull a vile of his blood and test for P.E.S's. I bet he test positive for performance enhancing storyiods.

This is the dumbest crap I've ever read. Congratulations on killing a buck in a barrel in a high fence free range pen. You are the great white hunter. More like the great white hype.

Did you rattle and call him up? As in shaking a bucket of feed, not using rattling antlers and holllering "C'moan boy, heyuh, heyuh? That's how I call the cows in our high (65") fence cattle operation.

We have a small high fence operation where the head catch is, then a large free range high fence operation where the pasture is. For $5000 I can guarantee you a shot at a piebald Simmental bull. He's currently in the small high fence breeding stud pen, but I'll put him in the large 100 acre high fence area so it will be sporting when you shoot him.

So did he pay to kill the deer? Or was he just invited to hunt as a guest? I can't imagine the just let anyone shoot their breeder.

I doubt that is a breeder buck. I've been to a couple of these places, and I'm sure they all do it different, but the ones I've been to cut the antlers off breeder bucks to prevent them from injuring each other. (And to keep people from shooting them illegally ) P.S. never hunted at a place like this.

I had not read up any more on this post since early yesterday. WOW has it turned out to be quite an entertaining read.

Where in Alabama has anyone had the same mature buck or doe come by their stand (within 100 yards) multiple times in less than an hour. That deer must have thought he was either in a photo shoot, or a petting zoo.

Gott'em with the old neck shot. Corn AND BREEDER PELLETS were scattered everywhere.

Dang don't get on and check what's going on and missed all the fun.

awesome deer

I'm just now catching up, and after all that, I can't quit laughing about a pet cat

He's recycling the corn, going green in the big pen. Johnny

He's obviously using the poultry farmer definition of free range. It's in a pen, but the pen allows him to go outside, so it must be free range.

I think yer on to something there.

Wow!! How did I miss this jewel. Definitely some aldeer gold quotes in this one.

Hey now, I got a pet cat. Don't be haten on cat owners.

I bet it sucks to save up all that money to go kill a high fence deer, then do something like this. Every time he looks at it hanging on his wall now he is going to know what a douchebag he is.

Sounds like you got caught in a lie....

Did this deer have a name??
Did he have a tag in his ear? Released 12 days ago???
Dam man.

He Gone

I reckon young guys just dream of killing a giant buck just so they can come to aldeer to show it off no matter how they killed it. If it was shot in a pen they fab up some bulldoodoo story about how it was free range. If it was free range they most likely shot it at night and make up bs about how they were in the stand etc. it's like they fantasize about trying to blow our minds by being the best deer hunter in alabama. I just don't get it. Shoot what makes you happy and be honest about it cuz us rednecks will get to the bottom of it one way or another.

Honestly can't believe nobody has stalked his personal fb page. No Mom or girlfriend pics. This aldeer gold is quickly dying off

I'm gonna just leave this right here:

The Pen Is Mightier...

Man, you must not know a thing about free range high fence deer. That buck was trying to get back to that comfortable feather bed they had for him in the barn in the breeder pen but the gate was closed so he kept walking back and forth waiting for them to open it. In the breeder pen is not considered 100% free range but outside is. That's why "pine sapling" specified it was 100% free range high fence.

Dang. That boy has hundreds of pics on his fb.

Hey that sounds good!

Dang he left out of here like somebody ran him off with a shitty mop.

It was really stupid to put this on here and lie about it, but the guy didn't hurt anyone. I think digging into Facebook and things like that is a bit much. Someone could really mess up his life some way if they wanted to. One of the many reasons I don't have Facebook, to much public access. I'm definitely not defending him though.

He has a star tattoo on each side of his chest. That is supposed to signify Russian mafia. He has a vid with him shaking a big wad of ones.

He's fair game. I didn't save any pics or vids with kids or girlfriends in them.

Edit - could be nautical. I don't know him.

I guess I need to confess, we got this one last year in a high fence in Coosa County last year, he was our breeder buck

Yeah, from perusing ole buddy's FB page it leads me to think that the lights are on, but nobody's home.

Well its obvious that one is well past his prime as a breeder buck and his rack is showing his age. Congrats on killing him. Was he still in the breeder pen or was he 100% free range in the big pen??
Cute little helper you got there. Take her every chance you get. They grow up fast.

Of course he was still in the pen, no way you could get a mature deer like this if he wasn't and thanks on the little helper, we go every chance we can

I'm pretty sure this was the guy on PFF bragging about killing a deer at Gulf State Park a few years back.

He has a pic of a seagull on the beach dead and bloody with a hole in it.

If I email you a vid - can you post it? Photobucket has lost it's mind.

Stud deer. Kinda/sorta like a shot caller in the pen.

Wait a cotton pick'en second....wasn't you the one, when asked, said that this deer was a "free range" buck?

I wonder why. Because that would blow your fair chase story.

But there's two different and unrelated posters saying you made an inside the preserve fence kill, with one saying the buck had been released from the breeding pen 12 days prior, and if that's not enough, there's that pesky congratulatory facebook post with the guide (by three accounts an honest and decent man who wanted to clarify the situation) and the caption above the photo clearly stating that the kill was made inside the preserve fence.

Nah, your not sitting there screaming about where it was killed.

But you're right. There is no debate.

He's an Alabama fan.....that explains a lot

Id say I have to agree with this 100% I know he brought all of this upon himself but this is going a little far just like the timber2 thread did. He may deserve the public humiliation that hes getting but his kids didn't ask for all of this.

What is his Real name?

Travis Gibson

Check him out here https://www.facebook.com/travis.gibson.522

So earlier that day he has deer eating out of his hand, then post a picture of a deer he killed later that day calling it free range? per his facebook account.

Looking back at his Facebook. H has killed deer there before. Saw pictures with him and the same guy and dead deer.

"As I sit here at work getting ready for another 10-12 hour day... I feel proud of myself. I've always tried to cut little corners and do things my way. But actually getting out and doing things the correct way... Has turned my whole outlook on life around!!!
I'm much more satisfied with who I am these days.
#hardworkpaysoff"

^ Posted on his facebook on Nov.7th. Hard work and not cutting corners didn't last long.

#hardworkpaysoffbutitgetsoldafteramonth

He didn't say it was.

I thought the saying was a honest days work.......

Your not getting under my skin.... That's why I'm not playing into this shucks. Stalk my facebook and you read where I never claimed this wasn't killed in a high fence. As a matter I fact I even said I was and that it was a once in a lifetime experience. But y'all can go ahead an keep twisting my words around. In sorry I'm not on here every five minutes to defend every little smart mouth comment. But happy hunting to everyone else!! Good luck

Talk about a glutton for punishment.

Guide led it in on a leash.

John Travis. How come you didn't try to shoot it with a bow, serious question. Or did you have gun and bow And it wouldn't get in range?

Did you not say that it was 100% free range? I remember reading that and I see other people quoting you as saying that as well. It was in your post about people bashing your deer but now that whole post appears to be gone. I haven't piling on you like everyone else has, but to say you never claimed it wasn't high fence is a lie.

Yes you did. For you to be so young.....your memory isn't very good.

Im talking about this post right here

MTeague, you beat me to it.

Yep, doubling down gets you more punishment.

I still want one.

Hey JT, I see you have deleted your post from the thread where you stated it was "100% free range". Other people quoted it so now it's on the internet forever. I'm sure you are a good dude, and I am not one to throw stones. But at this point, shouldn't you just man up and admit to the lie? Jut cut your losses man! Aldeer is the place for second chances!

For the right price, you can have one tomorrow.

^^This^^
Don't dig a deeper hole man.

In reference to what Southwood said..

please come on back.

Haha... he hollered at that one and it walked right up to him

Travis, I'm running a special on a free range deer hunt for next year, go ahead an book now!

For some reason his post where he was pissed off that no one gave him attention for the fantastic accomlishment of hunting on a food plot bothers me as much as this post. What kind of weirdo signs up for a web site, makes a forgettable post about sitting on a food plot, and then scolds the 49 people who bothered to read it for not giving him high fives. Some strange psychological stuff here.

Wow buddy..if you cant understand the difference..your a dense SOG! You shot a BREEDER Buck..release 12 days ago. I shoot free range alabama bucks and what you did was PURELY dishonest.

When asked..you LIED. How much did he cost you man?

Dude..Your a smhuck. I didnt bad talk you..congratulated you..but instead..you turned out to be another young arsehole like timber2. You clearly stated free range and came on here like you accomplished something.

You didnt.

You PAID for a deer..based on his size..which I guess would be a CULL in a pen.
You misrepresented yourself..lied and made an arse out of yourself. Grow up..and learn to hunt.
Id rather you killed a fair chase lil 6-8 and posted in then that shucks. What a loser.

How about some more girl friend pics she looked pretty hot? I bet she is free range

We could at least hear the story.
It may weight several pounds.

Post em up. She ought to be free range with this guy for a boyfriend. Hes a douchebag IMO.

Jeez..what are these schmucks thinking?
I got up at 345 am, in stand at 515..hunted until 945..Work at 1030...worked until 3..back in a quick stand at 330 until 530...and passed 3 bucks and saw 5 does.

This lil arsewipe comes in like timber2...trying to impress us all...with his BS story and pics.

Unbelieveable. I didnt see this post until now..as unlike azzhat..Ive actually BEEN putting in the dang hours ..the ruts just starting round here.

By the way..did he kill that one he petted/fed too? Two for one sale or something...? Jeez!!!

Unbelievable!

I'm just glad he didn't let his passion for archery get in the way of what really matters, getting a picture made with a farm-raised, penned-up deer he killed.

Figured I'd jump into this fracus before this here thread gets locked down!

At least it was in the big pen.

Fur, with all due respect, everyone knows you can't be 100% free range in the small pen

Dang it, we have 19 mutual friends. I almost know a big buck slayer.

Small pen guys, always over compensating. Big pen guys don't have to show off, they know they're big pen kind of guys. 100% big pen free range, no doubt about it.

You ain't a real deer hunter if you ain't matched wits with a 150" 2 year old in the big pen son.

Well the pic came off of his facebook pic's so it was probably was. Sapling, did you pet the monster deer before you shot Him?

I hear he has a new show on outdoor channel.
Life in the Big Pen.

Yep

I'm living the Big Pen Life.

Big Pen Outdoors ... sponsored by Primos, Blue Doe Grunt Call, and Deer View Mirror.

His show can be called High fences for Low life's.

Also sponsored by American Express . Never enter the pen without

Did you check the food bucket for the broken droptine? Your taxidermist can glue that back on.

Wildgame innovations ground grunter all day in the big pen IMO

I'm shocked he even replied, not shocked he's still trying to defend himself

This has been enjoyable thus far.

I don't get on aldeer for a whole day and i miss this

He didn't bother to name if he was using ballistic tips .

I can't believe the Kruncher hasn't broke the bank trying to sponsor him.

I didn't have my bow with me. I wish I would have. He would of been just about at my limits on how far I will shoot with my bow.

I'm pretty sure that Murphy's Law clearly states that if you have to repeatedly proclaim it was a "free range" kill, it wasn't a "free range" kill. Or something like that.

If you killed it in a high fence, who cares. But don't say it was "free range".

He was in a 700 acre high fence. Not the small pens that you just walk in and are guaranteed a deer. To me that is a free ranging whitetail. I understand the way yall could of took it and believe y'all did! Great job! Hope it was fun. But All this shi* talk and y'all wanna believe everything everyone is saying ........ How my daddy payed for me a deer?? How they led it in on a leash.. All the various rude comments... I hope you feel good about yourself!! To everyone else who thanked me on my deer, I surely appreciate it!
Ps No matter where or how I killed this buck, I am very proud of him! Good luck and happy hunting!

And I didn't pay a dollar for that deer! I work for the man so he was kind enough to let me come hunt. But thanks for the bashing.

this post

is this the same person?:
uh-oh

him too?:
whoops

Upholding a reputation takes work.

My goodness. Just when I think this thread is fixn to die out, another bomb she'll. Good grief.

Dang VT, you did some digging.

I feel like the trespassers your dealing with may have their hands full with you.

Good lord. This prick needs his ass beat asap. Daddy should have done a better job since he couldn't pull out fast enough.

Careful Mattice, he's done threatened to kick a bunch of guys arses on that other forum for a similar statement.

LOL he can call me step daddy if his momma looks anything like his girl friend

Looks like it's been shared on PFF now.

[url= http://www.pensacolafishingforum.com/f48/thought-few-yall-might-enjoy-one-780322/ ]PFF[/url]

Hey Johnny, you ain't famous till you're Aldeer famous.

Damn, at least we can all agree shooting a pen deer is cooler than beating on a woman

My, my. If he was convicted of the Domestic Violence charge then he is a person forbidden from possessing a firearm under FEDERAL law. This could end badly for him.

My first thought was surely he isn't that dumb, but then I read the post about his buddy killing a deer at GSP and realized he just might be that dumb.

Guys like this have proven my theory that there is LOTS of STUPID PHUCKS in this world. Makes our job a lot easier tho.

So I guess this thread shows your clean if you post a buck picture on here, and it doesn't end up with mug shots, arrest records, mama/girl friend pics. Wow I may never post again I'm sure y'all could dig up something on anybody. I believe y'all may be correct this guy is really dumb and really in need of attention. Prob a single child with a rich daddy

The government could probably learn something from some of these investigators on here. BTW damn nice buck you killed. Love them big 8s. Congrats.

That's what I thought VT! Thanks for finding the thread. This thread gets better and better.

Y'all better be careful, looks like he prefers strangulation when he gets bent out of shape.

Post a BS story on Aldeer and be prepared to face the consequences. What a tool. A dull one at that too. Thanks ladies & gents for an enjoyable read. I think this one might crack the top ten on Aldeer. I had to change my signature after reading this. Too funny.

The OP seems to be a little piece ofshit that starved for attn and probly is a needle dick too. Get a life you little meth headed freak.

So funny .... Just want to say thanks for the valuable lesson y'all have taught me about posting stuff on social media and how cruel some people can be.
I am not a saint and have made plenty of mistakes in my life but the things some of y'all have aid and the lengths y'all have took it too is unreal to me. I sure hope each one of you are happy with talkin and treating me the way you have.
I am not a bad person and I can honestly say I have never illegally killed a deer.
Thanks for the invaluable lesson.

Did it teach you anything about honesty?

Social media might just set you free of your job. You've stated you work for the man that owns the preserve and if you've read the earlier part of this thread there are people in here that know him to and your boss apparently wasn't very happy about that deer being advertised as free range. I think you need to stop trying to defend yourself on here and own up to your mistake. That's would good, honest responsible people do.

I wasn't here trying to lie about it. Everything I have said has been twisted against me. But yes, it did. A little bit more that that as well

Then why did you lie?

Please tell us all how you were in possession of the firearm you used when you have a domestic violence charge??? Did you somehow get it expunged by Obummer or something?

I just noticed this nugget from the PFF post:

I think what he meant to say was that the buck could free range anywhere isnside of the enclosure. No inside fences or cross fencing.

You have to be convicted, not just charged.

Dude does it really have to be spelled out for you or can you just not admit to the stretched story? You claimed it was a 100% free range deer that you had put in hour after hour to get, and it was the furthest thing from that. Nothing wrong with a guided hunt if your into that but don't come out beating your chest like you stalked it and killed it. Everybody was supportive of you until the lie came out. You could help yourself out here.

Horsechitt you busted up in here lying about it, bragging about it.

I'm a good mind to cancel your hunt on my guys, little big pen next year.

Sounds like the guys here may give you another chance if you come clean. They are a great group of gentleman who will be at your side when you need them. I have seen it time and time again from needing pulled out of the mud to true disasters. Just look at the offers of help at the beginning of the week

Big spender, I thought that class bucks were either babies or culls in th big pen.

They are. He got jipped.

So now that there is no question that your first story was a lie, could you at least indulge us in telling us what really happened? I want the full details of the hunt, from the moment the fence swung open to the time those antlers hit your bath tub. Was this a cull buck the owner let you shoot for free or how much did you pay?

This, share the real story in all honesty we want to know.

This is the kind of guy that tattle tells on the whole class after the teacher comes back for acting up while she was gone to the restroom. Making this judgement off how he looks. He also probably talk with a lisp, which is not something to make fun of but totally deservable in this situation. The Truth always comes out.

There are lots of threads started and PICS posted here involving big bucks that Aldeer members have killed that are 100% legit from start to finish.

Those are most enjoyable to see and to read.

But every once in a while a "Winston County" or "Monster 14 Point" thread comes along and these great Aldeer detectives blow it wide open exposing the lies and wrongdoings of the Op.

Travis, that is what you have experienced with this thread.

What is truly sad to me is that you don't really even show any remorse at being exposed for making this hunt and kill out to be something that it really wasn't. It was not a 100% free range kill that you put hour after hour into to kill this buck.

I would venture to guess that you are only sorry that these guys here at Aldeer busted up your story, you are not sorry that you came on here and blatantly lied about how it all took place.

Your best move would be to come back on here, admit that you lied, tell the truth, apologize to the owners of that preserve that you misrepresented a kill from their place on a public forum and learn a lesson about all of this for the future. Don't offer any excuses or make denials for what you did, just own it. Then some how, some way you need to learn to develop some honesty, integrity and character in your life.

Please don't think that I'm trying to bash you or run you down.

You have made some mistakes here as well as other places in life it looks like. We all make mistakes. Lord knows, I have.

If I had a son that had just done through this thread what you have done I'd try to say some things to help him. That's what I'm taking the time to do here.

You did no wrong by killing a buck in a high fence preserve. Nothing you did was illegal there. If that is what you like to do, then go do it by all means. Just don't come here to Aldeer and make it out to be something other than what it really was. It'll never get by here. Never has and never will.

True remorse and real honesty would carry you a long way here now.

This wormy sumbitch couldn't strangle his chicken.

He's a keyboard cowboy who would piss down his leg if someone looked at him sideways.

Naw I bet he's good at choking his chicken. No woman's gonna get near that boy. His domestic violence charge was probly against his boyfriend. The one that kills deer on the island!

Wow velvet. Great job.
Went to sleep early...and got up early and been hunting. Come back and see the plot has thickened!

So no we have a wife beating, running from the police, poaching friend,lying, pen hunting, bigmouth piece of crap posting on here like hes someone special??

This guy is the biggest TOOL ive ever seen on here.

He and Timber2 must be related.

You can't get much better advice than this. Whether it's on here or your day to day life. All jokes aside. Read Cuz-Pat post and think about it.

Tell Him Matt. SOB is some kind messed up. Definitely needed his arse whupped earlier and life and WAAAYY overdue.

Looks like he only fights girls though....

We had a fellow up here that killed a couple of monsters 160+ every year and claimed to have killed them at their club. I called BS on the first one but most took it hook, line and sinker. He was going legally and killing them on a canned hunt and driving back to the club sometimes the next day and taking pictures. What some folks do for attention is amazing.

Come on. Give the guy a break. He got pretrial diversion for his FELONY domestic violence strangulation charge.

That's pretty damn extreme right there. Hell I thought this guy and timber was bad but that's some extreme measures to go thru just to stroke your own ego

Dont know the fella that killed this deer. Just want to give a shout out for the land owner. They are some great people. They donated their land and animals as well as time and hospitality for a dozen or so kids a few weeks ago. Kidzoutdoors youth hunt weekend. From what I understand there are a few "free Range deer" that were pinned in when they fenced it. And they believe this was one of them. My son killed. Either way, it was in a high fence and I was still proud of him for making a good shot and he was happy.

For a moment, I actually felt sorry for this attention starved POS. Reading the PFF post from a few years ago took care of that one.

I do not think I have EVER seen anyone tell another poster that they were a low life because they hunted public land. If he were to ever meet Delta Dooler after those comments, I can assure you that any future communications would have to be from behind a keyboard. Being toothless makes it difficult to talk.

I am sure your father is very proud of the man you have become. All the money in the world won't solve all of the problems you may find and karma has a way of coming back to you.

Good luck in your quest for becoming the Internet's biggest azzhole, you are doing well so far.

Can they close some public land for a couple of years and release some of these pen deer. Some places sure could use it.

And Jaster, great deer for your son and good job by the owners.

If ole Travis would have come here, asked for a score and said he was hunting a preserve and killed a good deer, there would have never been an issue.

Does that still allow him to posses a firearm? Lay-man's terms for us non-attorneys please.

I've got more respect for the folks who go out and hunt public land. By all accounts, It takes a lot of time and effort to be successful hunting public land. It makes folks like me feel fortunate and kinda spoiled to have always been able to hunt privately owned land. Definitely doesn't make me think less of them as hunters.

A friend of mine was a guide at a large high fence in PA. He had a New York client that came each year and shot a 150-180" buck. The catch was it had to be on opening weekend of New York's gun season. He would shoot the deer and load it into his truck guts and all and haul ass home. He would then drag the buck into the woods where he hunted in New York so the trees and folliage would look correct. He'd then call his buddies to come help him track his buck.

He did it for several years in a row until his buddies got suspicious of him killing giants....for New York.... each year and they called him on it.

I call that dedication to the lie.

Or just plain out douchebaggery

Didn't that guy get exposed on aldeer too? Posted "kill" pictures of the buck from the greenfield and they eyes were sunk in because the carcass had dehydrated from being dead and in a cooler or something like that.

Social media and the internet never cease to amaze me!

This is the right way to do it. Congratulations jaster and to your son on a job well done.

10-4

Wow this thing just gets more messed up as the time goes on. Travis you need some help buddy.

Yep, when some goober that has maybe killed a basket rack buck at best, starts killing 2 and 3 monsters a year , every year, the truth always comes out. Always.

BTW , I didn't fall for BS's BS either.

thoroughly enjoyed all 35 pages. Some good stuff

I think 257 (aka pee wee) is a cyber bully and should say sorry and give Johnny a hug.

You need to change your settings....

Freerangebigpenlivesmatter

pretrial diversion - a person is charged but is not yet tried and does not have to admit guilt but does have to meet "certain conditions" - such as counseling/therapy, probation, paying restitution, etc..

it is a way for the person committing the act(crime) to right his wrong and be given a chance to be a productive member of society; and, possibly to never have the act (crime) show on an arrest/criminal record.

he may still be "in the program" and not yet completed the required conditions. he is not a felon and can possess a firearm, unless he has continued criminal behavior.

some folks may read these posts and clearly see some personality disorders - antisocial and narcissistic. i'm not a doctor and not saying there is, just stating an opinion. for the sake of his family, i would pray that his egomaniacal issues are resolved and he will prove to be a loving, kind, caring and devoted father to any children he has.

makes one wonder if there is any split personality/schizophrenic disorders too. how does one work for such a wealthy, prominent individual as mr. favre and the folks around him not know what is going on? this young man is living the dream and has the world by the horns but he has no clue. maybe he has seen what money and fame can do and wants a taste of it without the toil and sweat it takes to get a person to the top of the ladder. just the ramblings of an old lady (in other words, my opinion).

If I ever kill a big buck I am not only not putting it on here I am going to delete my account.

^^ hahaha

What that means is that if he completes the judges wishes, probably first and foremost a DV class, then the charges will be dropped (usually) or reduced to whatever the judge has agreed to reduce them to. Without running a criminal history we don't know what the final outcome was. I'm pretty confident that he wasn't left with a Felony conviction or that would have put him in violation of both Federal for the DV and Felony and State for the Felony.

A lot of times this is done in these cases because the two parties get back together and recant their story which makes it hard to prosecute, so the prosecution will work a deal to at least get him in a DV prevention program.

I did run his background. He completed pretrial diversion and the case was nol prossed. (Dismissed)

, that's pretty funny

: For a heck of an entertaining thread!!

The worst part about that liar was he was entering them in the Harbin big buck contest trying to win prizes for his high fence kills.

Great thread!
Cliffs on the other guy exposed in this forum....forgot his name.
Something2.

Might the post on it....we wanna read about it

Timber2

I think He meant Timber2, Micheal. By the way..KUDOS to you for getting her done on PUBLIC LAND this year with 2 dam good uns!

This guy puts down public land hunting but then pays a ton for a smaller buck IMO then you shot both the other year and this.

Good job.

Funniest part is one his facebook page (where I saw you posted a link to here) how he was "Proud of who hes become".

All I can say is wow..and Casey (foldemup) I didnt even know that and that is down right Criminal. Like pulling big bass out of a holding tank and entering them in a fishing contest...hhmmmm...didnt I see that exposed on here too??

Dang posers. Just be proud of what you shoot and be honest about it.

This guy is starting to sound like Ike Turner.

Crazy thing is that his nickname is PeeWee too

i know this deer was killed in a fence but if it is the uptons property, I used to hunt 942 acres of it before they bought Abbott hunting club, if that is their free range part then there are some good bucks on it. i was in the club for 2 years and saw a 146" 12 point killed by a 15 year old and I killed a 118" 9 point and a 110" 8 and a couple other good bucks and saw another guy kill a 110" 6 point and another really nice 6 point without brow tines and the guys over there shot everything that moved. I always wanted to see what that property could produce with a little qdm going on.

Not taking up for him but Pelham is very mountainous.

It is very beautiful property and there are a bunch of nice deer on the free range side!

I said I was sorry and I will apologize again! I'm sorry for doing an saying what I did. Please forgive me and let's all be friends again? I enjoy this forum and would like to continue to stay on it and prove myself!!
Happy hunting to everyone this morning!

That's a good step in the right direction in my opinion...

John travis I think you can make some online friends on here but just be straight with everybody man. The last post you made might be the smartest one you've made yet. No man/woman on here is any better than the other because of the size of deer they killed or how they killed it. It's about sharing stories, learning from each other and and picking each other up when one had had a bad day in the woods or in life in general. Good luck to you man. I hope things turn around for you. Ball is in your court.

Good luck in your future endeavours. Try not to hunt illegally in state parks, strangle any girls that piss you off or elude the cops.

Friends? That would probably be a tough row to hoe.

Congrats on a cool trophy! Welcome back Johntravis89

Im with you on this one Geno.

Im not friends with many folks doing that kinda stuff.

dude, if it's inside of a high fence,regardless of the acreage, by definition, it is not free range, can you not grasp that concept?

Pelham is mountainous?

Pelham is mountainous? [/quote]

It depends on where your from. To us flat landers anything we can't see over is a mountain. I had to go to Sylacauga the other day and dread the drive between there and Alex city because of the "mountains".

Well oak mountain state park is in Pelham. Double oak mountain is in Pelham. Yeah parts of Pelham are pretty dang mountainous.

I think he's trying to correct what he did man. Give him a chance.

just helping to make 40 pages.

I won't poke anymore jokes at this kid on account of this.

this has been entertaining.

well said Superspike.

I love shooting pen raised quail and catching pond fish. No meat eating hunter should have a problem with killing a pen raised deer. I'd even call it hunting, but no trophies to collect IMO. Do what you enjoy, don't have to do it the way others do it.
Let this be a life lesson, lies always come out!

Travis. Good of you to come clean and make amends with an admission and apology. BUT...A deer killed inside of a high fence is NOT a free range deer. Does not matter if its 10 acres or 10000 acres. P&Y and B&C will not accept deer killed in an enclosure for entry.

fred killed a big buck with a homemade stick and string with a hand carved arrowhead, HE is better than the rest of us knuckleheads

Good way to start climbing the ladder again John.

Just a few notes here for you:

1. As mentioned, B&C and P&Y won't accept trophies taken from an enclosure regardless of acreage.

2. SCI will accept your trophy into their record books.

3. No need to a 60 day drying period because as mentioned, B&C and P&Y won't accept and SCI doesn't require a drying period for entry unless it's top 20.

4. Your comment that is now my favorite quote of Aldeer all time is now my signature.

Since he apologized I'm not going to make it...


but I was going to photoshop the cover of Big Trouble in Little China to be Big deer in Little Pen.

Please

I think you should.

I'm guessing it would be AWESOME.

Well....yeah....if you can do that then your a pretty bad dude.

Maybe we just need a big group hug.

No

Posted this in the general forum, but figured I'd cross post:

any experienced bowhunter on here could do it. There are several bowhunters on here that are better than I am, I just choose to use odd tackle. Ya'll do know I use a compound too..

ill have a lot more respect for johnny if he makes this his profile avatar and face book profile picture

That is a dang good'un Jono, but wasn't it "Big deer in a big pen?"

I'm only a man.

Now is your time to shine....fix it

100% free range in the big pen

This thread has really hit the skids since Travis showed some contrition. We were easily heading to 20 pages.

In regards to fair chase in the big pen, I can offer some experience. I have a family friend who has an enclosure around his property. It is not a pay for hunt facility and by invitation only. I hunted it a few of times with my father about 15 years ago. I kind of expected this before we hunted but it just doesn't feel right to me. I saw a few really big bucks while in the stand. The deer inside adapt in certain ways to their confines. If it is a really thick spot the deer will bed in it and let you walk right on past them. If you turned and walked directly into the thick spot they would bolt. I shot one deer they had identified as a cull - a 195 lb. 4-1/3 year old with a 9 point rack. Never have scored it but I would guess around 115.

One time I was walking through the woods to a stand and started hearing a loud rumbling noise coming through the woods. Then a group of maybe 30 deer came stampeding within 20 yards of me. I took cover as I thought I was going to be trampled. After the deer passed, someone came by riding on a golf cart. They weren't intentionally pushing the deer, it's just a herd mentality reaction to the circumstances. Definitely not how free range deer react.

I would never pay to hunt a facility like this, no matter the size. The idea of shooting deer like cattle just does not appeal to me. Especially if these deer have been artificially inseminated with the genes of some super freak buck raised in a pen for his nut. Some of those non-typical deer are ridiculous and look like lab freaks to me.

this story really had a good ending. I was heart touched by the change I saw in the op. I just want to say john even though youv'e had a troubled past you can decide now to change. if you try to do the right thing 100% you never have to worry about anything. BTW. nice BF kill.

Y'all sure are easy to forgive. It ain't like this guy stole a piece of nickel peppermint from the grocery store candy rack.

Yep, and the whole story about the deer hasn't even been told. The version I heard would've actually been a funny story. And there's more truth to what he said at first than most think.
My understanding is, he was NOT hunting inside the fence, he was hunting the fair chase portion. The deer WAS in the "big pen", and came to the fence line one too many times, so ol boy decides he's gonna shoot the guy's 150" breeder buck. He and the landowner are evidently buddies and it was all laughed about. If this is true JT, why not just tell it the way it was? If you were gonna lie, why not paint you a black eye on and tell us the landowner "socked" you after shooting his BB. That would've made the story much more enjoyable and believable.
Kudos for admitting you were wrong for lying, but you have a criminal history, and without knowing your true integrity, I'd be more apt to show you the working end of a sidearm rather than shake your hand if you showed on my doorstep. Hate it's that way, but you did it.....not me.

This thread has really went downhill.....definitely no longer top 3 material.

Biblically speaking......yes it is. Lying and stealing a peppermint are both a sin. They are the same. The boy manned up and apologized. Now he has to earn trust.

Whoa now! So, he shot it thru the fence in the big pen. That beautiful free range mountain side in Pelham overlooking the big fence.

I know a buddy who accidentally did that on a rainy day. Wasn't pretty.

If he wants to "stay on this forum and prove himself" like he said, I think he should tell us the true story. If its anything Johnal3 says, Im not forgiving the guy or giving him a chance until the full truth comes out.

So technically speaking, he was hunting free-range. He didn't lie about the area where he was sitting, he just left out the part of where to deer was.

Also if this was in fact a breeder buck, they have piss-poor genetics on their place.

Well, he sounds like top notch Aldeer material. Git his ass on in here!

After being out for a day almost two, what a turn of events this thread has taken. I'll be honest early on Johntravis you were looking like a real low life pos, and I am not completely changed yet. However, with your last post you took a step in the right direction. Continue to man up and do the right thing and you will have some friends on here and in your everyday life too.

Schit I still think the OP freebases cocaine.

I don't really care what the story was, anyone who would lay a hand on a woman, isn't worth pissing on if they're on fire.

Mmmm. I have seen a few women that rightfully deserved it.

When a buddy of mine's wife came home one day when he was a young man in college and said she had fallen in love with someone else. He asks, "Do I know him"?

She replies, "It's not a him".

Wife turning lesbian ain't no reason to hit her. Toss her chit out the door and move on.

Well deserving it and actually doing it are two different things.

Or ask to join in!

Bingo!

Are we talking about Gary again?

we may never know why JohnTravis hit his lesbian wife or why he shot over the fence in the rain.

Great buck John Travis! You never know what kind of deer may show up in those Pelham mountains.

I heard of one just recent getting killed by a guy sneaking into dream Ranch and shooting a deer dream ranch had just bought then posting it on facebook ??? This is not the same one is it ? I can't get the pics to show up

I heard this just now has happened

The deer you're talking about want from dream ranch. There's another high fence down the road. They left the gate open over night. He lives next door. His daughter shot it.

reckon how the gate got "left open"?????

I know the gate got left open at the Pilot plantation in safford in 2001. Drunkass farm manager left it open. Lots of red deer got out and got killed. He got fired.

I ask Matt because when I first put up my big front gate to keep folks from coming up to the house I didn't lock it. Found it standing open a couple of times and started locking it up. Also put up a night light and camera. No problems since.

that farm manager needed firing and prolly an ass whipping. No excuse for that.

Is Dream Ranch the one Rick and Bubba's fat rear ends go to every year and then talk about it on the show like they're really some legit hunters?

I hear there's some controversy going on at the ole dream ranch now anyway.

Do tell!

Not in public. Too many eyes on Aldeer according to some.

Here�s one that is supposedly on the run down in that area. Rumor is that it and others somehow got out of the big pen. CD.

Can't wait for a "big pen" to be built in North Jackson. Yee Haw!

It may be coming!

Several years I turkey hunted at place in Lauderdale country. Guy that owned it was in the process of high fenceing it. It was called Deerstep. He already had breader does. Had a huge house we stayed at. Recon the guy died before he finished his dream and the kids sold it.
Anyone over that way know anything about this place...??

Where at in 41?

Dug out the cap he gave me, Waterloo. Step hills. Never knew it was that rough over that way. We went on a tour of the place. He had several ATVs, manager, chef. Can't remember his name. Seems like he had sold a business for millions and purchased the place to fix up.

Anderson book store owners???

Don't think it was books. Maybe trucks. Really can't remember. Was invited to hunt back when I was involved with a hunting show. Cabin was three stories and has to still be there. Had a big arch over the entrance. Way off the main road. Had spotting scopes on the back deck to watch green fields 1000 yards away.

Top Cat is spot-on. It wasn't the Anderson family (with Anderson Books).

I went to Deerstep for turkey hunting but I don't believe it was fenced then. I think he was in the process of it. They'd just opened the season over there, I think a year or two earlier. Just a few days.

Giant lodge, all first-class, food by a chef, the works. Lodge was super. The owner had 2-3 big Swarovski spotting scopes on his wraparound deck to spot deer in the fields below the lodge and beyond. He'd made big money but I can't recall for what; aluminum business perhaps? He died a few years later.

Here's some info when it was in the process of being sold:

https://www.landsofamerica.com/property/1459-acres-in-Lauderdale-County-Alabama/981646

I would like to be neighbors with some one with those deer!
Guaranteed his fence would be left open LOL

Dang I have not read all the thread until tonight !
So he does not kill his deer like the rest of us!
He gets a pen deer and claims to hunt and kill
like the rest of us and YOU GUYS BUST HIM !!!!
What nerve the guy has. I accept his apology
But earning trust and rebuilding his character
will be a difficult thing. It's just a deer , he wanted to be
Super Hunter? I respect Fred's stick and string more than
any kill!

well i seen that deer in another pic... More than a week ago. Twas a bigun for marshall co, i was skeptical about it to say the least

Thats it.

*are *fences

Congrats to the young lady. So can she enter the deer in P&Y? It was technically free range when she killed it. It's life history ain't her problem.

Doesn't matter, P&Y doesn't accept crossbow kills.

Where did you apologize the first time? Looks like you’re lying even in your so-called apology. You’re too lazy to even type out what your apologizing for doing wrong to boot. Maybe you don’t even even know.

Someone hit it in on the head earlier with the narcissism comment. You see it it in his posts and everything in between. This guy is clinical. He probably choked his girlfriend because she said something wasn’t the biggest she had ever seen. Hell, maybe she just said his little boy swoop-do didn’t look cool. Maybe she just said he was wrong about the sky not being blue. I knew that once someone offered him a get out of jail free card by apologizing he would jump on it and play the seeking redemption card. What a sorry sack.

I deal with a lot of people like this guy in my profession. He’s not changing, query as to whether he is even capable. He probably didn’t get enough attention as a little boy with Dad making the fat stacks and now he’s fucked for life. Maybe he was just loved too much, spoiled, it goes both ways. It’s sad but only in the way that he is a sorry waste of life. Take that back it’s also sad for anyone who has to be around this guy including his little girl. Guys like this wreak havoc on the emotional and often physical health of everyone around them, especially their children. I see it every day.

We all have a past hopefully he has grown up some and is a great role model for his little girl. Let's not drag him back down that road it's unnecessary this far removed from the post.

wish i could see the pic of the dang deer.

Well somebody decided to dig up some bones. Geez man. "Waste of life"? Went a little far with that one. There isnt a soul on this site that doesnt have issues of some type. Your no different.

He got to shoot the fenced in buck for free? That buck would cost several thousand dollars at most fenced in ranches.

Welcome to the site squatch! Have you ever met a cald or black painter?

I can't see any pic of this deer in this thread!

I would not pay several thousand dollars to shoot that buck and if anybody would theyve got more money than sense.

I have a friend (Jack) that was a good friend with Jim Henderson, the guy that started it, passed away a few years back and his kids did put it up of sale. He did get some of it fenced in.

We burned the pines last year for the new owner, he's a nice guy and also owns land in Colbert. Used to talk with him a good bit when he was at that place.

Huh?

Heard he has a lunker bass that he caught at bass pro, in the free range fish tank.

inside joke

This was great! thanks necro-posters!

The only black painter I have ever seen was in a free range big high fence so it doesn't really count I guess.

Maybe the number one post of Aldeer gold.

close, but 575 duzzen arras is still tops

or possibly pics laying on the ground with does and then having your sister threaten legal action against members

Anyone have a link to the 575 duzzen arras thread?

I think the Gary thread was a step above.

What. A. Thread...

It is for me.

Pelham is just outside of New York City.

I've heard they have some really steep mountains in that area.

Poor guy.... are y'all ever going to let this Big Pen dude go back to a quiet existence and live a normal life?

I didn't think so either.

He hasn't visited the site since January so I doubt JT cares what anyone is saying about him.

Is he in Jail for domestic violence or poaching? Just wondering...but talk about thread resurrections...wow!

So your saying that JT is now locked in the big pen?
Did he appeal and ask for the little pen?

I ate at a high end restaurant one time and had a "free range chicken". Does that mean it could have been raised in a big pen?

No but that was definitely aldeer gold. That thread made it to a couple of other sites too, that’s how you know you’re famous.

I really laughed out loud when 257 told JT this wasn’t pee wee’s play house 😂😂😂😂😂

He got charged with distribution of pot not long ago.

What is the "sister threatening legal action" post? I don't remember hearing about that one

Man, I cant remember if that was ROCK with the blown off fingers, or the guy posing nude with his deer. All the craziness just becomes one big blur....

I kept thinking pictures of John Travis's mom pumping iron would be coming the next page as I read this...and then I realized that was the Timber 2 post and HIS mom.

hard to keep up with it all...lol

Thats right it was the nude dude with a deer post! And his lawyer sister threatening to shut old aldeer down. Priceless...

I thought that was the two boys spooning while lying on the little dead doe?

ALDeer gold. Enjoy:

http://www.aldeer.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=353179&page=1

No, it means one time you paid too much for chicken at a high end restaurant!

Shocking. He never seemed like the kind of person to do that.

It was......kenwood I believe

Me too, I consider monkeytown to be in north Alabama

I've heard people say they're going hunting in south Alabama when they're going to Pickens County.

Kenmack.

John Travis or Timber?

JT

Thank ya kindly

Back on July 4th we ran in the Peavine Falls race at Oak Mtn State Park... it's like 4.1 miles UP the mountain, then 4.1 back down. Anyway, all I could think about is the "mountainous region of Pelham"

I guess he's sitting in the small pen, inside the big pen now.

Nah he wasn't in there long from what it says. Posted bail 4 hours after he was booked.

What county?

Baldwin County

I’d still like to see the original kenmack thread

You new guys need to educate yourself on the origins of “free range in the big pen” 😂😂😂

Not this crap again

I think his “400 yard running neck shot” was his greatest accomplishment

I said it was for the new guys ben 😀

One of my favorite quotes from the whole thread and it came from you southwood 😂

Why?

I was hoping JT was the one who resurrected this thread.

Me too.

Wudnt he on here tellin folks he was sorry not long ago

His mom is gonna whoop ur ass

That is Timber who had the body builder mom. Travis is the girlfriend abusing poacher from Baldwin county.

Was reading through this amazing thread and saw your comment Geno. I think you were trying to be humorous but I think you hit the nail on the head and it is very sad. That buck had probably observed others being let out of the small pen and saw their fate. I bet he desperately wanted back into his safe space much like a dog and his crate. I am no PETA type, but that's just sad.

Hell...well timbers mom needs to whoop Travis ass

This is a thread that keeps on giving. It's been a long time since I've read this thread! I enjoyed re-reading and laughed just as much this time reading it as I did back then.

"Free-range in the big pen"... man, that's funny. This guy deserved everything he had coming to him.

Just in case anyone needed a good laugh again today. Just re-read this whole thing again.

“100% free range in the mountains of Pelham al”

🤣🤣🤣

I love reading this ole stuff before I joined that has lasted this long, Good stuff!

257 keepin’ it 💯




ALDeer gold

Wish there was a “where are they now”

Hell I lived in Pelham for 25 years and never realized it was northern alabama or mountainous.

In all fairness to him, I believe he was from south AL. Compared to what we have, Pelham is mountainous and since Montevallo is the center of the state, Pelham is technically North Alabama

Classic

That’s a blast from the past. I remember laughing my tail off reading this. A where are they now would create some solid gold threads