SAWTOOTH OAK ACORNS

I have cut a deal with a Forester who has been raising 47 Sawtooth Oaks for the past twelve plus years. He has been documenting when each tree starts dropping acorns. I have agreed to buy every pound that he has available. They can be used as bait, crushed up for food attractant, and for more practical use, to plant. The price will vary between two different drop times (Mid September - Early October $3.00/pound, 600 pounds and Early October - Late October $6.00/pound, 100 pounds). One pound has 75-100 acorns. I will hold acorns in freezer until spring for those who plan to plant them. Pre-pay and get $1.00 off per pound. 256-737-9595

Couple of questions:

1. Can you ship them?
2. About what can I expect as a germination rate if I plant in planting soil?

3. Is the drop time specific to the perticular tree or where it is planted?

Just a heads up for those that plant them. I picked some up and planted them in organic cups (over 50 of them) and got them going good in the window seal. At about 8 inches tall (early spring) I started setting them on my porch to get some sun. That was not a wise idea. I came home on the third day and a squirrel had dug the acorns up and destroyed the trees.

I plant a dozen or so ever year in my pots. At 2 years old and 12"-18" tall I take them to farm and plant them and put tree tubes on them.

Out of the 12 or so I'll plant about 4. The others either die or are slow growers, ect.

The deer will absolutely devour them. Probably the only thing I've seen they'll leave white oaks for. At work they lay under them until they are gone.

How old is the average tree when it produces acorns?

I do the same at my place but at 2 yrs they are 3-4 ft tall. They need staking and training but grow quick.

They started producing around 5 yrs then a decent drop around 10.

I can tell ya from personal experience that just about every single one will come up. If I don't pick up all of em under the trees I have, I'll end up with a patch of 1' seedlings by April. They are hell on mower blades too. You can ship them. I've been selling some too and shipping them in small flat rate boxes that hold about 60-75 of em. You could probably cram 100 of em in there if ya wanted to but I put mine in plastic bags bc the postal service can be hell on boxes, then put instructions in there with it. The shipping is a little over $6.00 to anyone in Alabama. They work great for feeding deer. I have about 20 trees that are 20 years old. If you want any of mine next year, come down and pick em up. They're actually better than any other feed because it takes longer for them to eat em all. Damn good idea man I hope ya sell a bunch of em. Folks just don't know what they are missing.

The Sawtooth Oaks will be here tomorrow. Holler at us if you would like to pre-order or have any questions!
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Sawtooth are an invasive species and should not be planted in Alabama. Other native oaks are just as good, if not better.

I agree they're non-native, but why shouldn't they be planted? They're hardly invasive.

I've seen some of those "invasive" oaks on state park areas that were planted by the state foresters.

In order for something to be invasive, it has to be A)non-native and B) detrimental or adversely affecting the native species.

Saw tooth oaks are non-native, but they aren't adversely affecting native species.

Thanks for all the advise you guys are helping with. Yes we can ship. I usually just put them in the ground where I plan on leaving them. I've had great germ on about any I've planted. Production starts anywhere from 5 to 7 years old. The drop dates are believed to be genetic. The guy raising them is a Registered Forester and keeps the late drop acorns separate. Last year one of the late drop trees produced 220 pounds of acorns. The Sawtooth Oak tree is the most advised Mass crop tree recommended by Wildlife Biologist because of it's fast production. Other Native Oaks take upwards to ten years to start producing acorns. Cost per tree is very minimal and is very easy to establish. They want last very long, when they're gone they're gone.

That's faster than mine for sure. I will say though, they'll come through a 60" ye tube from 18" really quick.


Something else I've noticed is they never fail to produce. Even years line last year up here when the white oaks were spotty at best the saw tooth were loaded.

Thanks for the orders. We will start shipping this week.

I've got a couple of trees I planted about 15 years ago that are still dropping now. If you or your guy wants some acorns to plant for diversity for breeding let me know. These are in Dallas County. I'm gonna save some to plant this year. Maybe one of these years we can have a breed of trees that drop mainly during bow season. I only have a handful though. The deer have ate most of em up and I'm not going back in there till the rut.

If you guys want a jump start on planting acorns you can purchase the seedlings from weyerhauser. I pick up mine in camden and pay $55. for 200 seedlings. I have a few now at 2 years that are 4' tall. Most are 3' tall. I also purchased persimmons seedlings and pine seedlings the pine are dirt cheap. I got my info from Kimmie VanWyck with weyerhauser

Surely Weyerhauser is not selling invasive trees to be planted on their hundreds of thousands of acres of land where they harvest trees (LOL) . For $55.00, you get some 2500+ acorns to plant. 100 times more trees and 100 times easier to plant.

Got any left?

Late frost kills the buds and you get no acorns. The deer didn't eat my sawtooth acorns for about 2 seasons, now you will almost never find one on the ground unless it is rotten. I drop mine in water and only keep the ones that sink to plant. They are bad about drying out in pots, planting in the ground is much better, but will need to be tubed. I find that bucks are bad about rubbing on them.

My point is what others have found - we don't fully know the effects yet, and there are other better species for deer. As the fella from AWF said, everyone thought privet was going to be great too. This is possibly his best statement:

“Where native mast producers can be managed, they should not be replaced with sawtooth.” This assertion calls attention to the flaws in management practices that permit replacement of native species with exotics, and suggests that natural resource managers should consider the underlying problems of land use that eliminated native oaks and not establish sawtooth oaks in their place.

https://www.qdma.com/4-qdm-lessons-learned-sawtooth-oaks/

https://www.alabamawildlife.org/uploadedFiles/File/sawtoothWinter13.pdf