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Red dot sight #2337728
12/19/17 04:16 PM
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Looking for opinions on what would be a good red dot scope to buy for a Remington 870 super mag. And do they help with aiming or not really useful

Re: Red dot sight [Re: jaybuckman] #2338623
12/20/17 10:01 AM
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I think it depends on your eyes. Years ago I loved the fiber optic types that mounted on the rib, and would still be using that if I could see it. Well, actually I can see it, but I see 9 dots instead of 3.

An 870 will handle most any sight. The Burris FF series is very popular with turkey hunters, and its what I use. Good luck!


All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
Re: Red dot sight [Re: jaybuckman] #2341859
12/22/17 11:47 PM
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I love using a red dot site, but you have to take the time to site it in. I've had bad luck with cheap sites not holding zero from the heavy recoil of a shotgun. The other thing I've had issues with is the scope mounting too high for a comfortable cheek set. That's one of the reasons the FF is so popular. It has a low profile. I'm fortunate that my gun came with a rail for mounting optics. I have an Aimpoint H1 and it rocks. Aimpoint has a micro scope designed for shotguns. It's pricey and cost more than an 870. You can get older Aimpoint models for a reasonable price and will they will take a lot of abuse. I use to think all you needed was a vented rib with a bead, but I've changed my opinion.

Re: Red dot sight [Re: jaybuckman] #2342045
12/23/17 05:21 AM
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I bought a eotech 512 last year for my 20 ga. Love this setup and will never go back to anything else. A little pricey but for me was worth every penny



Re: Red dot sight [Re: jaybuckman] #2342099
12/23/17 06:06 AM
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FF3 on marlin 336 base


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Re: Red dot sight [Re: jaybuckman] #2342101
12/23/17 06:06 AM
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It's just another thing that could go wrong and cost you a bird IMO. Lots of folks love them though. FF3 seems to be the most commonly used by turkey hunters

Re: Red dot sight [Re: crenshawco] #2342444
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Originally Posted By: crenshawco
It's just another thing that could go wrong and cost you a bird IMO.


May be true. However, I was costing myself a few over the years by enjoying the view of the show, and not getting my head down on the stock. Red dots solved that and I like being able to have my head off the gun some and just aim the dot.

Re: Red dot sight [Re: jaybuckman] #2342586
12/23/17 02:18 PM
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a lot of folks never learned how to properly shoot a shotgun BEFORE starting turkey hunting.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

proud Cracker-Americaan

muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
Re: Red dot sight [Re: jaybuckman] #2342618
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I prefer a bead or iron sights.


Micah 6:8
Re: Red dot sight [Re: BhamFred] #2342638
12/23/17 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
a lot of folks never learned how to properly shoot a shotgun BEFORE starting turkey hunting.


But it’s not an instinctive quail-dove game with the technology of loads. I shot a lot of trap/skeet in the past myself. Wasn’t great, just decent. However, when a turkey load has the pattern of a baseball at 20 yards, it’s not a point and shoot deal anymore.

Re: Red dot sight [Re: jaybuckman] #2343153
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get"em" fred !!

Re: Red dot sight [Re: turkey247] #2343259
12/24/17 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted By: turkey247
Originally Posted By: BhamFred
a lot of folks never learned how to properly shoot a shotgun BEFORE starting turkey hunting.


But it’s not an instinctive quail-dove game with the technology of loads. I shot a lot of trap/skeet in the past myself. Wasn’t great, just decent. However, when a turkey load has the pattern of a baseball at 20 yards, it’s not a point and shoot deal anymore.


horsechitt. I've killed loads of birds inside 20 yards all the way in to 2 yards. Only ones I ever missed ducked or moved at the last second..and that number would be less than a handfull out of 250+ killed over the last fifty years.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

proud Cracker-Americaan

muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
Re: Red dot sight [Re: jaybuckman] #2343592
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Fastfire for me

Re: Red dot sight [Re: BhamFred] #2343599
12/24/17 03:37 PM
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ive used a bushnell holosite for over 10 years and last year went to a eotech. my eyes are old and cant see beads,wear contacts and cant use my readers hunting....... ive just moved the holosite over to a 870 20ga that im setting up to turkey hunt with.

scott


if i hadnt taken up hunting i might have became a juvenile delinquent or worst taken up GOLF
Re: Red dot sight [Re: jaybuckman] #2343611
12/24/17 03:49 PM
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I've had the same old cheap BSA red dot for years.I've been thinking in upgrading this spring to one of those cheaper low profile jobs.


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Re: Red dot sight [Re: BhamFred] #2343762
12/24/17 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
Originally Posted By: turkey247
Originally Posted By: BhamFred
a lot of folks never learned how to properly shoot a shotgun BEFORE starting turkey hunting.


But it’s not an instinctive quail-dove game with the technology of loads. I shot a lot of trap/skeet in the past myself. Wasn’t great, just decent. However, when a turkey load has the pattern of a baseball at 20 yards, it’s not a point and shoot deal anymore.


horsechitt.


That word doesn’t magically change everything grin

I had a Rem 1100, 25 years ago, with loads that had a pattern as big as a piece of plywood. Missed a few with it too.

I killed one this past season at 4 steps with a red dot.

What does that mean? Nothing really. Just a couple of stories.

With the setups available today and the technology of loads - the majority of people have a better chance to get the center of a pattern in the correct spot with a red dot or a scope, and I don’t like scopes. Even experienced wing/trap shooters.

Re: Red dot sight [Re: jaybuckman] #2343767
12/24/17 06:45 PM
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I'm with Fred on this one. I guess the majority of folks can't shoot a shotgun properly if they can't kill them with beads or at worst iron sights. Spare me the tight pattern nonsense. Don't let them get inside 20 yards. If they do, body shoot them.

Re: Red dot sight [Re: crenshawco] #2343841
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Originally Posted By: crenshawco
I guess the majority of folks can't shoot a shotgun properly if they can't kill them with beads or at worst iron sights.


This thought is kinda funny to be honest. Y’all are making handling a shotgun to be something difficult, or whatever.

I mentioned in my first post that I like to have my head up. I also like the way I can shoulder the gun more comfortably, and the flexibility of odd positions.

Sounds like red dot shooters will have to turn in our man cards. Dang, just something else to add to the list.

Re: Red dot sight [Re: jaybuckman] #2344034
12/25/17 05:37 AM
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When your gun doesn't shoot to POA you need a sight. The FF3 does well. I fought them for years but gave in a few years ago. It is the way to go. My little 870 shot tss a bit low and right. Not anymore.


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Re: Red dot sight [Re: jaybuckman] #2344060
12/25/17 05:58 AM
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I used to turkey hunt with an old beretta that shot way high and left. If a turkey was walking left to right at 35 yards or so I held just under the tip of his beard. If he was facing to the left I held just behind the crease of his wing and so forth.
Not all shotguns shoot POA. Turkey loads magnify that. Red dots are awesome

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