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TSS 10's

Posted By: BrentM

TSS 10's - 05/11/17 09:56 AM

Anybody ever tried them in a .410 load? I would have to think that if they have the killing energy of lead 5's that a fellow could get his pellet count up to the point that he could make the .410 a no doubt 45 yard turkey gun every time he pulled the trigger.
Posted By: brotherhood

Re: TSS 10's - 05/11/17 10:57 AM

I would think you would be correct! I wouldn't mind trying some out!
Posted By: BrentM

Re: TSS 10's - 05/11/17 11:37 AM

A 10 in a .410 just seems like the best combination of pattern density vs effective range
Posted By: N2TRKYS

Re: TSS 10's - 05/11/17 11:39 AM

How many ounces are in a.410 load?
Posted By: 11020

Re: TSS 10's - 05/11/17 11:41 AM

13/16 oz, Hal told me he had some reports of kills over 45 with the 10s.
Posted By: NEbamahunter

Re: TSS 10's - 05/11/17 11:43 AM

that combo could help some 6-8yr old kids become real killers smile
Posted By: Hevishot13

Re: TSS 10's - 05/11/17 12:56 PM

I'd like to try a .410 for next year. Maybe if one of the local killers will help me with it, I'll be a bonafide killer then wink
Posted By: teamduckdown

Re: TSS 10's - 05/11/17 07:46 PM

I seriously considered it. But my 410 throws 9s exceptionally well. 130-150 countd in the 10 ring at 40 yards. Its a legit 50 yard gun.
Posted By: crenshawco

Re: TSS 10's - 05/11/17 07:50 PM

What 410 are you shooting Dylan?
Posted By: Rockhound

Re: TSS 10's - 05/11/17 08:53 PM

[quote=crenshawco]What 410 are you shooting Dylan? [/quote

Not him but mine shoots 130s at 40 yards with 9s. It's an old full choke single shot Steven's. No telling what it would do if I cleaned the barrel as it's never had a swab ran through it at all
Posted By: YEKRUT

Re: TSS 10's - 05/11/17 09:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Rockhound
[quote=crenshawco]What 410 are you shooting Dylan? [/quote

Not him but mine shoots 130s at 40 yards with 9s. It's an old full choke single shot Steven's. No telling what it would do if I cleaned the barrel as it's never had a swab ran through it at all


I need to borrow it for a weekend next year and get a .410 bird under my belt.
Posted By: buckbrush

Re: TSS 10's - 05/11/17 10:47 PM

I'm sure they would do great I'm getting 120 count with 9's w) .410 and just shot my 28ga with 9's and 9.5's haven't done a count but the 9.5's did alot better just by looking.
Posted By: hawglips

Re: TSS 10's - 05/12/17 09:00 AM

This is the first spring that guys have been shooting the 10s, but indications are that they will probably end up being the optimal size for the .410.

If I told you one of the feed-back reports I got about shooting them (in a 20 ga), you'd say the guy or I was lying, so I won't share it.

But the math indicates 50 yd plus penetration energy and with the extra pellet count, guys are getting bonafide patterns to about that distance. So, no excess either way.
Posted By: JUGHEAD

Re: TSS 10's - 05/12/17 10:08 AM

Intriguing info in this post for sure! I am currently getting around 140 in the 10" at 40 yards with a beautiful 20" pattern. This is with 13/16 oz of 9.5's. I also have about 35 of them loaded and seriously doubt I will shoot more than one or two per year. Hence, I'm not chomping at the bit to try any 10's but I certainly look forward to seeing how things go for you guys!
Posted By: poorcountrypreacher

Re: TSS 10's - 05/12/17 01:51 PM

Originally Posted By: JUGHEAD
Intriguing info in this post for sure! I am currently getting around 140 in the 10" at 40 yards with a beautiful 20" pattern. This is with 13/16 oz of 9.5's. I also have about 35 of them loaded and seriously doubt I will shoot more than one or two per year. Hence, I'm not chomping at the bit to try any 10's but I certainly look forward to seeing how things go for you guys!


Interesting info, Hal. I think I'm gonna try some in the open barrel on the Yildiz. After the miss yesterday I think the SBE is ready to be retired from turkey hunting.
Posted By: 257wbymag

Re: TSS 10's - 05/12/17 05:51 PM

Certain guns PCP need to be retired from the turkey woods. Permanently. Just ask brentM or Daggerz.
Posted By: BrentM

Re: TSS 10's - 05/12/17 07:17 PM

I'm about to put a good bit of effort into a .410 project. Gonna cut the barrel on my little single shot yildiz to 21" or so and get it threaded for choke tubes. I'll put a fastfire on it if there is enough metal on the receiver to do so.
I'm gonna experiment some with the 10's this summer as soon as I get a hold of some
Posted By: n2deer

Re: TSS 10's - 05/13/17 11:10 AM

Originally Posted By: BrentM
I'm about to put a good bit of effort into a .410 project. Gonna cut the barrel on my little single shot yildiz to 21" or so and get it threaded for choke tubes. I'll put a fastfire on it if there is enough metal on the receiver to do so.
I'm gonna experiment some with the 10's this summer as soon as I get a hold of some


There should be enough metal there. Keep us posted on how it does. Interesting stuff
Posted By: teamduckdown

Re: TSS 10's - 05/13/17 01:27 PM

An old off brand 410 with a built in full choke that I bought at a pawn shop for 100$ lol

Seriously the best 100$ I've ever spent. Couldn't believe the patterns.
Posted By: JUGHEAD

Re: TSS 10's - 05/13/17 01:41 PM

Originally Posted By: teamduckdown
An old off brand 410 with a built in full choke that I bought at a pawn shop for 100$ lol

Seriously the best 100$ I've ever spent. Couldn't believe the patterns.
The older full choked guns are way better than something produced in the last 10 years. They are constricted more than today's full choke .410's for some reason.

Because ridgestalker's gun shoots so good, I have bought or found for others about a half dozen of the same model and every one of them patterned thus far has been a no doubt 40 yard gun with Hal's load and either 9's or 9.5's. Some of them could prolly kill one much further. Pretty much all of them have been bought for $100. Stony paid a little more I think but he was ready and didnt want to exercise any patience. Lol!
Posted By: marshmud991

Re: TSS 10's - 05/13/17 06:35 PM

I have 2 very old 410 pumps with full choke. May have to look into this TSS stuff and see how they shoot in them.
Posted By: wareagle22

Re: TSS 10's - 05/13/17 07:03 PM

Originally Posted By: JUGHEAD
Originally Posted By: teamduckdown
An old off brand 410 with a built in full choke that I bought at a pawn shop for 100$ lol

Seriously the best 100$ I've ever spent. Couldn't believe the patterns.
The older full choked guns are way better than something produced in the last 10 years. They are constricted more than today's full choke .410's for some reason.

Because ridgestalker's gun shoots so good, I have bought or found for others about a half dozen of the same model and every one of them patterned thus far has been a no doubt 40 yard gun with Hal's load and either 9's or 9.5's. Some of them could prolly kill one much further. Pretty much all of them have been bought for $100. Stony paid a little more I think but he was ready and didnt want to exercise any patience. Lol!


I have very little patience when I find something I want. Mine shoots great too, I just haven't taken it in the woods yet. It got a pretty paint job and will be getting a FF3 soon. Maybe we can get together next year and kill a double with them.
Posted By: CD

Re: TSS 10's - 05/14/17 08:54 AM

I'm following this. I've got an oldie I haven't shot in years. Foldemup gave me a few shells to pattern, but I never took the time. I'd like to atleast check one off the list with the four hunnert and ten.

Jug, you have any experience with a Stevens like this one?

Posted By: BrentM

Re: TSS 10's - 05/14/17 07:24 PM

Seems to me that the old Savage/Stevens are the tightest choked and best shooting guns CD. You should have a winner. Surprisingly the 2 worst guns I've seen were an old tobacco leaf Iver Johnson and an old Model 37 Winchester. Neither of them shot it well at all.
Posted By: CD

Re: TSS 10's - 05/15/17 07:30 PM

Thanks Brent. That one is a 940A and I've owned it my entire life. I'm interested in seeing what she'll do. CD.
Posted By: 257wbymag

Re: TSS 10's - 05/15/17 08:41 PM

I just dug my Rossi 410 3" with modified barrel out. Used to shoot cottonmouths with it. Got some 13/16 loads made. It may not shoot worth a piss but we'll see.
Posted By: buckbrush

Re: TSS 10's - 05/15/17 09:50 PM

The old H&R topper single shots are pretty good. I have been throwing decent numbers.
Posted By: NEbamahunter

Re: TSS 10's - 05/16/17 06:38 AM

dang it yall done got me wanting a .410 now
Posted By: foldemup

Re: TSS 10's - 05/16/17 09:51 AM

Originally Posted By: NEbamahunter
dang it yall done got me wanting a .410 now


I've got a Winchester 37 that needs a new home grin
Posted By: brotherhood

Re: TSS 10's - 05/16/17 10:09 AM

how much for that Winchester 37 casey? Have you shot it with TSS?
Posted By: JUGHEAD

Re: TSS 10's - 05/16/17 10:16 AM

Originally Posted By: CD
Thanks Brent. That one is a 940A and I've owned it my entire life. I'm interested in seeing what she'll do. CD.
Only one way to find out for sure!

If by some strange chance it doesn't do good, it is pretty easy to find the ones like we all have for pretty cheap. Ours is made by CBC out of Brazil but imported by various people. Might be listed as a model 151. Might be imported by K-mart, FIE, Sears, etc. They are all the same though. They have a 26" full choked barrel all with the exact same engraving, flat forearm, and the barrel release is in front of the trigger guard. I haven't seen one of them yet that isn't a no doubt 40 yard gun with 9's or 9.5's with most being capable even further out. I wouldn't be a bit scared to shoot one at 45 yards with mine.
Posted By: BrentM

Re: TSS 10's - 05/16/17 01:42 PM

And that flat forearm makes it a perfect turkey gun. Every one I've seen has got a good trigger on it too
Posted By: JUGHEAD

Re: TSS 10's - 05/16/17 01:43 PM

Originally Posted By: BrentM
And that flat forearm makes it a perfect turkey gun. Every one I've seen has got a good trigger on it too
I meant to mention that part too. The difference in the trigger on that little jewel versus an H&R, Rossi, etc. is night and day. I'm gonna try to gather up another or two over time for "parts." The only real knock I can find on them is the plastic piece on the front of the forearm at the hinge. Mine is cracked and I'm betting that is common. I wouldn't take $500 for the barrel off of mine though. It hits perfect for the way I like to aim and throws beautiful patterns.
Posted By: YEKRUT

Re: TSS 10's - 05/16/17 04:02 PM

Anyone want to trade tss 8's for some 9's or 10's and components I'll need to load about 10 .410 loads?
Posted By: ridgestalker

Re: TSS 10's - 05/16/17 08:13 PM

I wonder what the maxium range is as far as energy needed to kill one with 9.5? I'm not even sure what they leave the muzzel at.
Posted By: crenshawco

Re: TSS 10's - 05/16/17 08:27 PM

Originally Posted By: ridgestalker
I wonder what the maxium range is as far as energy needed to kill one with 9.5? I'm not even sure what they leave the muzzel at.


Depends on pellet count per oz, but 60+ easy
Posted By: poorcountrypreacher

Re: TSS 10's - 05/17/17 07:33 AM

Hal told me the range one was killed with 10s. He didn't wanna say it so I won't either, but it was pretty far.

Everything I thought about tss when I started using it 10 years ago was wrong. I thought Hal's first 2 oz load at 1100 fps was too slow, so I put it in a 3.5" hull and sped it up to 1250. It was a waste of time and money.

I thought 9s were too small and I needed 8s to get good penetration. I was wrong; the 9s have plenty and the increased pattern density probably makes it better on even a longer shot. And now info is coming in that the 10s still have plenty of penetration.

You young guys with steady hands and good eyes may want those high numbers in the 10 ring, but I want a wider killing pattern so that I never again have that sick feeling after missing a turkey.
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