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How about a little help?

Posted By: poorcountrypreacher

How about a little help? - 10/21/11 02:35 PM

I've been bowhunting since 1978, and have killed a good many does and small bucks, but never a decent buck. About 8:50 this morning a decent buck was headed to my stand. Everything looked perfect - he was coming thru thick stuff and would break into the open at 15 yds. I was gonna draw when he went behind a big oak, but he spotted me just before he did. He looked at me a few seconds and then bounded back the way he came.

But he stopped at 30 yds, so I drew on him. There was a lot of brush, but I had an open shot at his back, starting about the middle of it to his neck. He was well below me, so I had a decent angle on him. I let it fly and heard the arrow hit him. He ran off kinda slow, and about 150 yds away, I heard him go down. It didn't sound like he crashed dead, just went down. I heard him move a few seconds later, then again, then silence. I'm not sure if he died there or just laid down.

I slipped down after about 20 minutes and went over to where he was standing. I found the arrow - it was broken in half, and the fletching half must still be in him. The Muzzy looked like it could be used again this afternoon. There was good blood on the arrow, and no sign of guts.

So 2 questions - where do you think he is hit? I think I probably hit to one side of the spine and it penetrated all the way thru, but I'm not at all sure.

And 2, how long should I wait? I don't want to wait so long that the meat could spoil. I'm thinking 3 hours.

All opinions welcome.
Posted By: Bowhunter84

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 02:42 PM

i'd give him a couple of hours. better safe than sorry. i hope its a quick and easy recovery on him!
Posted By: Fun4all

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 02:44 PM

Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher
I've been bowhunting since 1978, and have killed a good many does and small bucks, but never a decent buck. About 8:50 this morning a decent buck was headed to my stand. Everything looked perfect - he was coming thru thick stuff and would break into the open at 15 yds. I was gonna draw when he went behind a big oak, but he spotted me just before he did. He looked at me a few seconds and then bounded back the way he came.

But he stopped at 30 yds, so I drew on him. There was a lot of brush, but I had an open shot at his back, starting about the middle of it to his neck. He was well below me, so I had a decent angle on him. I let it fly and heard the arrow hit him. He ran off kinda slow, and about 150 yds away, I heard him go down. It didn't sound like he crashed dead, just went down. I heard him move a few seconds later, then again, then silence. I'm not sure if he died there or just laid down.

I slipped down after about 20 minutes and went over to where he was standing. I found the arrow - it was broken in half, and the fletching half must still be in him. The Muzzy looked like it could be used again this afternoon. There was good blood on the arrow, and no sign of guts.

So 2 questions - where do you think he is hit? I think I probably hit to one side of the spine and it penetrated all the way thru, but I'm not at all sure.

And 2, how long should I wait? I don't want to wait so long that the meat could spoil. I'm thinking 3 hours.

All opinions welcome.


Good luck!, I would give him until after lunch 3- 4 hours, then stalk hunt the blood trail keeping an eye out front. If the arrow stays in him and he is moving that should keep the wound open, if he lays down that will probably be where he expires.
Posted By: poorcountrypreacher

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 02:44 PM

Thanks Darryl. I feel sure he's either dead or will die. I really want to find this deer, and I'll be sick if I don't.
Posted By: Bowhunter84

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 02:48 PM

you will find him. the problem with the angle you described (if im understanding correctly) is the possibility to hit one lung. i shot a small (70lbs) doe just like what you are describing and i gave her one hour. it was one of the longest tracking jobs ever. i shot her with a muzzy (which had nothing to do with the distance traveled). she went about 200yds but left a great blood trail!!!
Posted By: longshot

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 02:57 PM

sit down have a good lunch and a nap. I know its gonna be hard with all of that replaying in your mind over and over but it will give him time to expire.
was there a decent blood trail in the direction he went?
I would also agree that you are MOST likly in the vitals and you will find him just give him plenty of time.
you did the right thing by waiting and not pushing.
Posted By: Morris

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 02:59 PM

X2 Longshot
Posted By: Shaw

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 03:05 PM

Hope you find him.
Posted By: mackdaddy

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 03:12 PM

I would wait 3 to 4 hour and slip in. Even with a single lung or liver shot he should be dead. Keep us posted. I'm jealous I'm sure it was a great morning
Posted By: poorcountrypreacher

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 03:33 PM

Originally Posted By: longshot
sit down have a good lunch and a nap. I know its gonna be hard with all of that replaying in your mind over and over but it will give him time to expire.
was there a decent blood trail in the direction he went?
I would also agree that you are MOST likly in the vitals and you will find him just give him plenty of time.
you did the right thing by waiting and not pushing.


There won't be a nap. wink

Too keyed up for that. I didn't see a blood trail, but I didn't look at all. When I saw the arrow, I just slipped out to avoid scaring him. He wasn't very far away.

There is no chance that I got both lungs. I had to have hit to one side of the spine and then got complete penetration. Its possible I got the heart, but more likely that I got just one lung. How long could he live with one lung?

And if I killed him at 8:50, how long before the meat goes bad?
Posted By: JUGHEAD

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 04:30 PM

I'd say 3 hours minimum but ONLY if you are absolutely certain you didn't hit him in the guts. Did you smell the arrow to make sure? Wait 8 hours minimum if there is any bad odor on the arrow at all. The meat will be just fine for either scenario.
Posted By: poorcountrypreacher

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 05:04 PM

He was decenter than I realized.:)

Gotta clean him, more later, he is 21" wide.
Posted By: Fun4all

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 05:05 PM

Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher
He was decenter than I realized.:)

Gotta clean him, more later, he is 21" wide.



Congrats!! thumbup thumbup
Posted By: straycat

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 05:07 PM

Good Job PCP!!!!
Posted By: Little Foot

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 05:15 PM

Awesome! Glad you found him, waiting on pics!
Posted By: ElkHunter

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 05:26 PM

Congrats!
Posted By: Zookie

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 05:27 PM

Congrats!! Looking forward to pictures!!
Posted By: CAM

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 05:31 PM

WTG thumbup thumbup
Posted By: 280Rem.

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 05:33 PM

Congrats
Posted By: mmusso

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 05:33 PM

Congrats!
Posted By: fromthedepths

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 05:34 PM

awesome ,love a good ending .i see way too many bad ones on AT.
Posted By: Shaw

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 05:37 PM

Glad you found him PCP. Did you get him with that "noisy" DXT?
Posted By: LUMPY

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 06:02 PM

Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher
He was decenter than I realized.:)

Gotta clean him, more later, he is 21" wide.


Awesome!! Congrats! Can't wait to see some pictures!!!
Posted By: Bowhunter84

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 06:21 PM

congrats steve! cant wait to see the pictures!!!!!!
Posted By: n2deer

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 06:29 PM

Congrats Steve, glad you found him.

Let see him when you get time.
Posted By: REEFD

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 07:09 PM

Glad you found him! Can't wait to see some pics as well.
Posted By: poorcountrypreacher

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 07:12 PM

It only took me 33 years to get a decent buck with a bow; at this rate I'll be 90 years old when I get the next one. smile

I couldn't stand it anymore, so we left about noon to look for him. I found a few drops of blood where I shot him, and it soon turned into a heavy trail. Went about 100 yards and there he was; I think he died soon after I shot him.



I hit him a little further forward than I thought. It entered high behind the left shoulder and exited between his legs. Got one lung, just as we figured. The rest of the arrow was still in him.

He had a better rack than I realized. An 8 pt, he had a 21" inside spread, one 23" beam and one was 21.25. I looked him over carefully when we found him, hoping he would make 130, but I decided he wouldn't quite make it. He didn't, but 127.75 is a good deer for our area.



Yes Shaw, it was that noisy Matthews that got him. smile
I think your tune-up job really helped it.

Jughead, there were no guts on the arrow, so I thought 3 hours ought to be long enough. I suspect he was dead in 5 minutes, but its better to give them time. Thanks to everyone for the help.

Posted By: Claims Rep.

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 07:21 PM

Preacher, that is ONE FINE DEER!!! I'd be thrilled to take a buck like that with a bow (or a gun for that matter).

Congrats!
Posted By: Southwood7

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 07:36 PM

WOW! What a great deer PCP! Congratulations on the kill and I enjoyed the story,especially the great ending. thumbup
Posted By: gman

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 07:41 PM

congrats!
Posted By: Zookie

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 07:46 PM

That is an fantastic deer!! Congrats!
Posted By: JUGHEAD

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 07:51 PM

Brute preacher! Glad you found him! Congrats!!!!!
Posted By: jacannon

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 07:52 PM

Nice Buck Preacher. Congratulations...
Posted By: mmusso

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 07:54 PM

Mighty fine! Congrats again!!
Posted By: Bowhunter84

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 07:55 PM

Congrats Steve! that is a Great Buck!!!!
Posted By: demp17

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 07:59 PM

Awesome .... good to see a happy ending..
Posted By: Brent100

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 08:02 PM

glad you found him. congrats
Posted By: pnut

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 08:03 PM

Good deal, very nice.
Posted By: CAM

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 08:13 PM

Congratulations PCP thumbup thumbup
Posted By: wmd

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 08:18 PM

Great deer! Way to persevere on the big boys.
Posted By: MANGLER

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 08:41 PM

Very nice deer! Good shot!
Posted By: keith5579

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 08:47 PM

Good buck Preacher!
Posted By: Morris

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 09:01 PM

Awesome deer! Congratulations!
Posted By: Skullworks

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 09:07 PM

Congrats on a great buck!
Posted By: Shaw

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 09:15 PM

Heck of buck PCP!!! Big time congrats. He was dead before you got down out of your stand. thumbup
Posted By: AUdeerhunter

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 09:30 PM

That's a stud!! Congrats, PCP!!!
Posted By: longshot

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 10:14 PM

Im glad you found him man!!!!! Now when do I get to hunt with you.
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 10:34 PM

congrats...I like those wide deer...

troy
Posted By: n2deer

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 11:08 PM

Hope im around to see the one when your 90.

Good looking deer.
Posted By: FurFlyin

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 11:36 PM

Nice one Preacher. 33 years to get a good one....That'll teach you to pray for patience. wink
Posted By: Out back

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 11:38 PM

Dang Preacher, that's a Boy Dog! Congrats.
I killed gobblers 1 & 2 right after you posted your first turkey kills this year, maybe the trend will continue through deer season. smile
Posted By: .308

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 11:45 PM

Fine Buck, congrats!
Posted By: NA Hunter

Re: How about a little help? - 10/21/11 11:50 PM

Congrats nice buck!!
Posted By: 2Dogs

Re: How about a little help? - 10/22/11 12:30 AM

thumbup thumbupVery nice bow kill!
Posted By: JDR4Bama

Re: How about a little help? - 10/22/11 12:39 AM

That's a fine deer. Well done!
Posted By: d_av_s

Re: How about a little help? - 10/22/11 12:57 AM

Congrats!
Posted By: capt_dalton

Re: How about a little help? - 10/22/11 01:06 AM

Doncha just love happy endings?
Posted By: scrubbuck

Re: How about a little help? - 10/22/11 01:33 AM

Great Deer PCP!
Posted By: CD

Re: How about a little help? - 10/22/11 01:44 AM

Beautiful buck! Congrats! CD.
Posted By: TrkyHntr

Re: How about a little help? - 10/22/11 01:58 AM

congrats!




Shane
Posted By: metalmuncher

Re: How about a little help? - 10/22/11 02:00 AM

Great buck!! Congratulations! thumbup grin thumbup
Posted By: Clem

Re: How about a little help? - 10/22/11 02:01 AM

Awesome buck and shooting, PCP. Congratulations.
Posted By: Todd1700

Re: How about a little help? - 10/22/11 12:59 PM

Great buck Preacher. Glad you found him. From the spot of that entry hole and where you say it came out it appears you actually didn't have much to worry about. Congrats on a good shot and really good buck!
Posted By: poorcountrypreacher

Re: How about a little help? - 10/22/11 10:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Todd1700
Great buck Preacher. Glad you found him. From the spot of that entry hole and where you say it came out it appears you actually didn't have much to worry about. Congrats on a good shot and really good buck!


Todd, if you will look closely at the pics, you can see part of the arrow sticking out of him. It only got one lung, but I guess that was all the Muzzy needed.

Didn't see a thing today, but it didn't matter; been a good bow season for me. Thanks again to all for the help and encouragement.
Posted By: LUMPY

Re: How about a little help? - 10/22/11 11:15 PM

Super Buck PCP!!! Congrats!!!!!
Posted By: TR

Re: How about a little help? - 10/22/11 11:25 PM

Congratulations on a great deer and a great story. Patience has paid off.
Posted By: bwhunter

Re: How about a little help? - 10/22/11 11:35 PM

Awesome Buck! Congrats
Posted By: 280Rem.

Re: How about a little help? - 10/24/11 02:12 AM

Congrats on a great buck.
Posted By: turkey247

Re: How about a little help? - 10/24/11 03:30 AM

PCP, thanks for the story. Great job, great deer. I'm a pk (preacher's kid). I remember helping my father find a deer of very similiar size with a bow. Special moment growing up and he deserved it. I can see on your face the expression of a great memory. This is why we do it.
Posted By: BDhunts

Re: How about a little help? - 10/24/11 03:38 AM

Originally Posted By: TR
Congratulations on a great deer and a great story. Patience has paid off.


+1
Posted By: Bowfool

Re: How about a little help? - 10/24/11 11:09 AM

Congrats! Maybe it won't be so long on the next one!
Posted By: Wade

Re: How about a little help? - 10/24/11 01:29 PM

Steve,

Congratulations on harvesting a good buck. He is a keeper for sure. Keep up the good work. All those clover fields are paying some dividend. Rumor has it that another good one fell yesterday afternoon on our side. Waiting on pics now.

Good luck,
Wade
Posted By: muzziehead

Re: How about a little help? - 10/24/11 02:42 PM

Great looking buck PCP. Glad you were able to recover him.
Posted By: doekiller

Re: How about a little help? - 10/24/11 02:47 PM

great deer, well worth the wait.
Posted By: BarnToo

Re: How about a little help? - 10/24/11 03:51 PM

thumbupProud for you, Mr. Steve. Thanks for sharing a great hunt with us!
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