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Handgun while huntin

Posted By: Bamahunter308

Handgun while huntin - 10/30/12 04:31 AM

Who carries one when in the woods? My friend at the PD and I leased 400 acres in franklin county about three years ago. The lease was real remote and you didn't see many people at all, we drove down a gravel road 3 miles with no houses before we got to our entrance but there was a few other clubs/leases in the area. He was hunting by himself during bow season but had is duty Glock 22 with him, he hunted and didn't kill and decided to come out right before last light and when he got to his truck there was a small beat up car pulled in behind his truck white female in the passenger seat white male standing by his truck he asked them what the hell yall doing here, the male stated that he was looking for his uncles land, he started towards ray and he pulled his shirt up were his handgun was visable and told him best thing you can do is leave now. Ray said you could tell they were "crackhead' type and up to no good. He said he didn't know what would have happen had he not had his gun. Yall ever had something like this happen?
Posted By: Jpipererp

Re: Handgun while huntin - 10/30/12 04:48 AM

When walking in, insAnity in left, stream light pt2L in mouth, and ruger lcp in right. Most times I am walking a solid half mile or more to stand through thick pines.
Posted By: Rip50

Re: Handgun while huntin - 10/30/12 02:07 PM

I do.
Posted By: DeepSouthHunter

Re: Handgun while huntin - 10/30/12 03:26 PM

Not yet but am about to start. Looking to get a Ruger LCR .38 special real soon.
Posted By: joshm28

Re: Handgun while huntin - 10/30/12 04:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Jpipererp
When walking in, insAnity in left, stream light pt2L in mouth, and ruger lcp in right. Most times I am walking a solid half mile or more to stand through thick pines.


I understand having one with you but why do you physically carry it in your hand??
Posted By: BamaBart

Re: Handgun while huntin - 10/30/12 04:46 PM

I have a Glock 23 or a S&W 4" 357 six shot revolver on me when hunting.
I've been wanting a Glock 20 (10mm) for a while but I keep finding other toys that get in the way! grin
Posted By: Matt07

Re: Handgun while huntin - 10/30/12 04:58 PM

I carry .380 in my back pocket.
Posted By: CKyleC

Re: Handgun while huntin - 10/30/12 05:49 PM

I carry a taurus slim 9mm
Posted By: DonH

Re: Handgun while huntin - 10/31/12 12:15 AM

Sig P238 .380 or a kimber ultra carry 2 .45....if i'm pistol hunting then it's my super blackhawk .44 mag....
Posted By: Reyn

Re: Handgun while huntin - 10/31/12 01:11 AM

Glock 22 2 15 rd mags with 180gr Goldots.
Posted By: 1bamashooter

Re: Handgun while huntin - 10/31/12 01:19 AM

Posted By: SMB44

Re: Handgun while huntin - 10/31/12 01:37 AM

Originally Posted By: 1bamashooter





BEAUTIFUL!!!!


I carry that same light

I either have an XD 40 + extra mag or a Glock 19 + extra mag

I also carry a meyerco knife
Posted By: frezznh2o

Re: Handgun while huntin - 10/31/12 01:45 AM

always,had a game warden waiting behind my truck one night. i was parked at the top of a hill and i didn't see him until i was right at the truck. scared the crap out of me. i have never been so happy to see a warden in all my life. from then on i always have pistol in one hand light in the other.
Posted By: sethjamtoe

Re: Handgun while huntin - 10/31/12 02:29 AM

Glock 27 .40 IWB all the time.
Posted By: jsh1904

Re: Handgun while huntin - 10/31/12 02:36 AM

Xd 40 in plain view
Posted By: Claims Rep.

Re: Handgun while huntin - 10/31/12 03:28 AM

Originally Posted By: joshm28
Originally Posted By: Jpipererp
When walking in, insAnity in left, stream light pt2L in mouth, and ruger lcp in right. Most times I am walking a solid half mile or more to stand through thick pines.


I understand having one with you but why do you physically carry it in your hand??


Helps him be ready for the boogers in the woods where he hunts! grin
Posted By: rglock35

Re: Handgun while huntin - 10/31/12 03:51 AM

Originally Posted By: sethjamtoe
Glock 27 .40 IWB all the time.


Whatever I do, where ever I go- lest it be prohibited.
Posted By: Jpipererp

Re: Handgun while huntin - 10/31/12 04:26 AM

Originally Posted By: Claims Rep.
Originally Posted By: joshm28
Originally Posted By: Jpipererp
When walking in, insAnity in left, stream light pt2L in mouth, and ruger lcp in right. Most times I am walking a solid half mile or more to stand through thick pines.


I understand having one with you but why do you physically carry it in your hand??


Helps him be ready for the boogers in the woods where he hunts! grin


I have a high concentration of yotes on my lease. I keep it in my hand on the off chance one "attacks" me whistle
Posted By: TwoToes_Hunter

Re: Handgun while huntin - 10/31/12 03:40 PM

What about management areas ? Can I carry one with me along with my bow ?
Posted By: jsh1904

Re: Handgun while huntin - 10/31/12 04:58 PM

Originally Posted By: TwoToes_Hunter
What about management areas ? Can I carry one with me along with my bow ?


I do
Posted By: TwoToes_Hunter

Re: Handgun while huntin - 10/31/12 05:25 PM

Let me rephrase then. Is it legal to carry my handgun with me hunting with my bow in management areas ?
Posted By: 49er

Re: Handgun while huntin - 10/31/12 05:59 PM

Originally Posted By: TwoToes_Hunter
Let me rephrase then. Is it legal to carry my handgun with me hunting with my bow in management areas ?


Your state's constitution excepts the right to bear arms for your defense out of the general powers of government.


Having said that, the last Regulation Book that was published for general distribution had this to say:

Quote:
220-2-.21 Possession of Firearms or Bow and Arrow in Any Wildlife Management Area, Refuge or Sanctuary Prohibited

No person shall take, carry, or possess any firearms or bow of any description whatsoever (except handguns possessed by legally licensed persons for personal protection) in any wildlife management area in this State during the closed season on game birds, game and/or fur-bearing animals, except on an open designated target range and except a person may possess a bow and arrow only during special bow season allowed for the taking of rough fish. No person shall at any time take, carry or possess any firearms or bows of any description whatsoever in or on any wildlife refuge or wildlife sanctuary located in or on any national forest area in this State, or on or in any state or federal sanctuary except by special permit or when bow and arrows may be legally possessed during special bow season provided for the taking of rough fish on such areas by regulations of the Department of Conservation and Natural Resources; provided, however, that this rule shall not apply to the possession of firearms by State Conservation Officers, state or county enforcement officers, or federal agents, when they are on active duty in the performance of their duties in the enforcement of the laws of this State.

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220-2-.55-.192ER Wildlife Management Areas, Community Hunting Areas, Public Hunting Areas, and Refuges of Alabama

(1) It shall be unlawful on ALL WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT AREAS, COMMUNITY HUNTING AREAS, PUBLIC HUNTING AREAS, AND REFUGE AREAS, all of which are established as "wildlife management areas" by Rule 220-2-.22 and all of which are hereinafter sometimes collectively referred to herein as "AREAS" or "AREA":

(a) To hunt, trap, use dogs, possess firearms, traps, or bow and arrow, except on open designated target ranges and except bow fishing equipment from March 1 -August 31, without a valid permit. A permit is valid only during scheduled AREA seasons during legal hunting hours and only with the required hunting license(s) and stamps and only with weapons and ammunition permitted for hunting the wildlife listed on permit. See (p) and (ff) for limited exception for certain lawfully authorized handguns possessed for personal protection.


…(p) For any person to possess any firearm while hunting with bow and arrow or crossbow, except on days of either sex gun deer hunts. This prohibition shall not apply to the possession of handguns by lawfully authorized persons for their personal protection, provided the handguns are not used to hunt or take or to attempt to take wildlife except as otherwise provided by this regulation.

…(ff) Nothing in this regulation prohibits or requires a wildlife management area permit for the possession of handguns by lawfully authorized persons for personal protection, provided the handguns are not used to hunt or take or to attempt to take wildlife except as otherwise provided by this regulation.


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No pistol permit or license is required by our Constitutions. Everyone is legally authorized to carry pistols by the Constitutions that the people ratified. I have reminded the Commissioner of the DCNR of that fact several times when his rules fall under the AAPA for review. You should remind him as well.

Regardless of our Constitutions, state law requires a pistol license or permit for carrying pistols in your vehicle or if you conceal your pistol while carrying it on land not your own or under your control. Public lands have been excluded by case law and AG opinions.



Authority was said to come from the common law of England by our Alabama Supreme Court in The State v Reid when a sheriff carried a concealed pistol for his own defense in violation of a law after having his own life threatened.


link:
The State v Reid

Quote:
... But let it be conceded that it is doubtful, whether the statute does not come in collision with the constitution, yet it is our duty to maintain its validity.



According to the Court in The State v Reid, law enforcement officers have no need to carry firearms. They don't need to be carrying firearms on WMAs at all according to the Court. It is the citizens of this state who have a duty to be armed when law enforcement calls on us for help.

How is that working out for them??? The judges, the cops, the bureaucrats, and the legislators are all a bit two-faced about the matter, aren't they? They want us to accept the part of Reid that restricts the citizen's right to bear arms, but they don't accept the part that says law enforcement officers have no need to carry firearms because we do.


The Uniform Firearms Act that was later adopted in Alabama relects a changed attitude by our government. It no longer holds to the view that firearms can only be used for defense when carried openly. It now recognizes that concealed pistols can indeed be used for defense, but only as a privilege granted by the sheriff of your county of residence at his own discretion, but not as a right. (The NRA helped draft the UFA, btw.)

Until 1956, you could carry an unconcealed pistol in your vehicle without permission. Now you have to have your sheriff's permission to carry a pistol in your vehicle, either concealed or unconcealed, unless you are a member of one of the privileged classes of citizens our legislature has created:

--link to a history of the Uniform Firearms Act:
Alabama gun control history lesson

[Note: the law (as written by the legislators, not our Constitutions) changed again in 1956 after this was written to require a license for any pistol carried in a vehicle]

The NRA also had a hand in this crap:
The NRA andf the Uniform Firearms Act


Our Constitution still says:

Constitution Of Alabama 1901
Article 1 Declaration of Rights.


Quote:
SECTION 2
People source of power.

That all political power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their benefit; and that, therefore, they have at all times an inalienable and indefeasible right to change their form of government in such manner as they may deem expedient.

Quote:
SECTION 26
Right to bear arms.

That every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state.

Quote:
SECTION 36
Construction of Declaration of Rights.

That this enumeration of certain rights shall not impair or deny others retained by the people; and, to guard against any encroachments on the rights herein retained, we declare that everything in this Declaration of Rights is excepted out of the general powers of government, and shall forever remain inviolate.
(emphasis added)


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