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Posted By: Hogwild

ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/11/17 07:30 PM

The bunch on the General Forum are so pre-occupied with whining, bitching and thinking they are comedians with their little quips, that they are missing the implications of this change of regime in Montgomery.
I guess they had rather bitch afterwards than look forwards??
Because, so far, Clem is the only one to relaize what may happen!


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Has anybody considered that we may wind up with a new DNR Commissioner??

That is an appointed position that is normally changed during most transitions.


Possibly new Advisory Board members, too. The CAB and Commissioner serve at the pleasure of the governor, who can dismiss and replace them for no reason other than he/she just wants to do so.

Every current member of the board was appointed by Bentley for a 6-year term. All could be replaced, along with the commissioner, in a snap.

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Posted By: THIS_BUCKHUNTER

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/11/17 09:30 PM

So....If I understand you correctly, Chuck Sucks , could, be replaced???...Could....Non committal, but is this typical of a new regime to replace DNR official's? If so, I'm all for it...
Posted By: extreme heights hunter

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/11/17 09:40 PM

So you don't put lime in your beers?
Posted By: bigt

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/11/17 09:50 PM

I doubt seriously that our new Governor is going to be making big changes at the ADNR anytime soon. She got a lot more important things on her plate right now I am sure.....
Posted By: Hogwild

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/12/17 04:02 AM

I have no idea what may transpire.
I had lost faith in the whole system after all of the Bentley controversy came out and he was able to maintain his office so long. But, change has finally come. And, who knows how deep it may go!
Posted By: centralala

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/12/17 04:14 AM

I don't think so. Only what, 2 years left? Think she rides it out. It would be nice to stop the bleeding now. But not gonna happen, IMO. In todays federal politics, everyone gets changed. States are going that route even down to the lowest appointed position. Now in 2 years....

Now this is my forecast. Just like a weather forecast, might be right, might not.
Posted By: Rmart30

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/12/17 06:32 AM

Dont think it will even be on her radar to do any changes unless they get a LOT of feedback hitting them.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
Posted By: Skinny

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/12/17 07:01 AM

doubt you see any significant changes overall. She has to set herself up for re-election and making a bunch of enemies right off the bat is not a good way to start that process.
Posted By: Hogwild

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/12/17 08:54 AM

I see that angle, Skinny.

I also know that there has been a concerted effort 'behind he scenes' to get Bentley gone. Those lines are already drawn, and have been for a while now.

Just a matter of who's on board and who isn't!
Posted By: Clem

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/12/17 09:17 AM

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So....If I understand you correctly, Chuck Sucks , could, be replaced???...Could....Non committal, but is this typical of a new regime to replace DNR official's? If so, I'm all for it...


No, that is incorrect. Sykes is a hired employee. The commissioner and CAB members are appointed.

Ivey asked Tuesday morning for letters of resignation from all cabinet members and (presumably) Executive Branch staff members so she could evaluate who will stay or go. That's typical with any change, even or maybe especially so during times of turmoil.

DCNR generally is removed from the idiotic shenanigans across North Union Street. Doubtful she will do anything immediate or at all, as Skinny noted. With just 19 months until the election and less time before the primary, fences have to be mended and money raised for a campaign.

But you never know.
Posted By: WildlifeBiologist

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/12/17 09:20 AM

DCNR Commissioner serves at the pleasure of the governor, but the WFFD Director works differently. In the event of a WFFD Director vacancy, the Governor & Commish appoint a new Director. After completing a mandatory 6-month probationary period, the new Director becomes permanent a merit system employee and not subject to removal by the Governor or Commish.
Posted By: Clem

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/12/17 09:25 AM

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In the event of a WFFD Director vacancy, the Governor & Commish appoint a new Director.


Is this before or after being vetted by others to find out their stance on fences, corn and feeding, limits, zones, tags and whatnot?

/dontanswerthat/
Posted By: JayHook

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/12/17 09:56 PM

Imagine this....A US Senator, Sessions, from Wilcox County, a Governor,Ivey, and ??????? for Commissioner! How about you Swamphunter...are you in!!

Immediate issues for the CAB will be tackling issues like legalizing telephoning for catfish, Night hunting, road hunting, shooting from a boat, CRAPPIE STOCKING INTO mILLER'S fERRY, reintroduction of fallow deer, etc.
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/13/17 07:35 AM

I thought telephoning for catfish was legal in Wilcox Co.???
Posted By: lefthorn

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/13/17 07:43 AM


Originally Posted By: BhamFred
I thought telephoning for catfish was legal in Wilcox Co.???


Everything is legal till you get caught right?
Posted By: Reloader79

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/13/17 08:10 AM


Originally Posted By: BhamFred
I thought telephoning for catfish was legal in Wilcox Co.???


Anything is legal til you get caught!
Posted By: ronfromramer

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/13/17 05:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Skinny
doubt you see any significant changes overall. She has to set herself up for re-election and making a bunch of enemies right off the bat is not a good way to start that process.



She'd have to sober up first and from what I hear that's not likely to happen
Posted By: JayHook

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/13/17 05:39 PM

Only after you Troy left Troy...
Posted By: Hogwild

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/13/17 06:46 PM

Are you not supposed to telephone catfish in Wilcox County, really??
Posted By: Turkey

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/13/17 07:54 PM

Only if out of M-80's.
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/13/17 08:01 PM

a friend has a pic of several folks including a governors brother with a huge string of telephoned catfish from the river below Millers Ferry. Gotta be legal.
Posted By: Reloader79

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/13/17 08:59 PM

Telephoning is legal in Wilcox county only, just stay on the east side of da riva.
Posted By: 59Hunter

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/13/17 10:53 PM

I think Gunter Guy may be at risk. Doubt it will be her first order of business, but I bet it's a first page agenda item.
Posted By: Hogwild

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/14/17 07:19 AM

Originally Posted By: 59Hunter
I think Gunter Guy may be at risk. Doubt it will be her first order of business, but I bet it's a first page agenda item.


I think so, too.

Evidently, you and I are the only ones, though.......
Posted By: Clem

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/14/17 07:55 AM


I don't believe you're the only ones.
Posted By: Out back

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/14/17 08:14 AM

Originally Posted By: Turkey
Only if out of M-80's.

You can't buy real M80s anymore. I still have a few that we used back in the 70s. I keep them in dry storage. Those things will demolish an oak stump.
Posted By: Turkey

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 04/14/17 08:18 AM

Wow. You DO know everything.
Posted By: Hogwild

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/24/17 06:31 PM

The leaves are rustling........the winds of change are blowing.....
Posted By: ElkHunter

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/24/17 06:45 PM

Hardly news. Gov Ivey has replaced several of the Dept. Commissioners already.
Posted By: Clem

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/24/17 08:02 PM

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Gov Ivey has replaced several of the Dept. Commissioners already.


Who's been replaced?
Posted By: ElkHunter

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/24/17 08:31 PM

So far the directors/Commissioners include
ALEA
Revenue
Chief of Staff
Press Secretary
ADECA
and
Serve Alabama

Whatever that is.
Posted By: centralala

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/24/17 08:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Hogwild
The leaves are rustling........the winds of change are blowing.....


Please elaborate what you predict. I'm not following what you are hinting at.
Posted By: Clem

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/24/17 09:07 PM

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ALEA
Revenue
Chief of Staff
Press Secretary
ADECA
and
Serve Alabama


Serve Alabama was R. Mason's husband's questionable job. Chief of Staff, Press Secretary, ADECA are or were involved in the prior administration's shenanigans. Those were all expected.

What about any other departments like Ag, Transportation, Mental Health, etc.?
Posted By: gobbler

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/24/17 09:57 PM

Man, I thought this crew had the inside scoop on everything relevant. You are still missing one.... by days
Posted By: burbank

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/24/17 10:40 PM

49er will be the new commissioner. Book it.
Posted By: Frankie

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/24/17 10:46 PM

Originally Posted By: burbank
49er will be the new commissioner. Book it.


he does know the law .
Posted By: BhamFred

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/25/17 05:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: burbank
49er will be the new commissioner. Book it.


he does know the law .


no, actually, he doesn't.
Posted By: WildlifeBiologist

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/25/17 06:16 AM

Originally Posted By: gobbler
Man, I thought this crew had the inside scoop on everything relevant. You are still missing one.... by days


Yep
Posted By: Remington270

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/25/17 06:54 AM

Originally Posted By: gobbler
Man, I thought this crew had the inside scoop on everything relevant. You are still missing one.... by days


Enlighten us
Posted By: Hogwild

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/25/17 07:30 AM

Originally Posted By: ElkHunter
Hardly news. Gov Ivey has replaced several of the Dept. Commissioners already.


I have known for a couple of days.
I am certain that you knew much sooner due to your position and connections.

But, it MUST be news......because it seems as if hardly anybody else knows and I have not seen anything online or in print, about it. And, it appears that very few on this forum know.....
Posted By: 59Hunter

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/25/17 07:51 AM

Tomorrow's moving day.
Posted By: bholmes

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/25/17 08:21 AM

Originally Posted By: Remington270
Originally Posted By: gobbler
Man, I thought this crew had the inside scoop on everything relevant. You are still missing one.... by days


Enlighten us


Yes, please.
Posted By: Remington270

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/25/17 08:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Hogwild
Originally Posted By: ElkHunter
Hardly news. Gov Ivey has replaced several of the Dept. Commissioners already.


I have known for a couple of days.
I am certain that you knew much sooner due to your position and connections.

But, it MUST be news......because it seems as if hardly anybody else knows and I have not seen anything online or in print, about it. And, it appears that very few on this forum know.....


I mean, of course I know. I just want to make sure y'all know. Y'all might have some bad information.
Posted By: crenshawco

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/25/17 11:36 AM

Originally Posted By: bholmes
Originally Posted By: Remington270
Originally Posted By: gobbler
Man, I thought this crew had the inside scoop on everything relevant. You are still missing one.... by days


Enlighten us


Yes, please.


X3. Who's getting the axe?
Posted By: abolt300

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/25/17 12:34 PM

Ok, I'll spill the beans. The new Gov. is going to appoint Troy, our own B'ham Fred, as the new commissioner. She's sick of all the political crap and influence and wants someone that will make a decision and tell it like it is. smile
Posted By: WmHunter

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/25/17 01:32 PM

I thought Commnr Guy had done a fair job and I will always be thankful for the extended season in the Southern Zone. I know a lot of people have complaints about other things but for me having Commnr Guy get the southern extension done was gold.
Posted By: 2Dogs

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/25/17 01:35 PM

beers extending season for LA

crazy extending season in extreme NA and just bout everything else he did.
Posted By: 270wsm

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/25/17 02:39 PM

I'm assuming we're talking about someone getting his old job back?
Posted By: Hogwild

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/25/17 02:51 PM

Originally Posted By: 270wsm
I'm assuming we're talking about someone getting his old job back?


Alright, Clem.....
Add one more to the list that knows! LMAO
Posted By: WildlifeBiologist

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/25/17 03:59 PM

Originally Posted By: 270wsm
I'm assuming we're talking about someone getting his old job back?


He's been lobbying hard for it.
Posted By: Clem

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/25/17 04:15 PM


And ... he's back in. Friday's moving day.

No, it's not Jim Martin back for a third term. If he's still alive he'd be 142 years old. If not, condolences and RIP.
Posted By: Hogwild

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/25/17 06:50 PM

I wish him the best!
For a whole plethora of reasons, the Dept has very little Public Support right now.
Posted By: foldemup

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/25/17 07:11 PM

Who?
Posted By: WildlifeBiologist

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/25/17 09:14 PM

This is going to stir up a hornet's nest. And the #2 candidate would have been just as controversial. Either way, it's the return of a familiar name.
Posted By: crenshawco

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/25/17 09:17 PM

Why don't y'all quit beating around the bush, and just tell us politically unaffiliated peasants what the hell yall are talking about?
Posted By: centralala

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/25/17 09:24 PM

Sounds like Lawley.
Posted By: BAMA44

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/25/17 10:48 PM

Centrala hit it on the nose and is the winner !!! Said he had a few things he wanted to clean up since his first gig
Posted By: 59Hunter

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/26/17 07:08 AM

So Lawley has agreed to do it? I heard from a good source that he declined to stay when Bentley ask him.
Posted By: burbank

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/26/17 09:41 AM

Not sure why it is a secret. Would it be an improvement over what we have?
Posted By: centralala

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/26/17 12:57 PM

Originally Posted By: burbank
Would it be an improvement over what we have?


That really is a good question. Can he put an end to the "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" activities? Or does he join in? Does he correct the PR nightmare that's is upon us now? Or does he just not care? IMO, if he wants to show he's in this to correct a downward spiral between ALDCNR and sportsman, he needs to fire Chuck Sykes. He has made it perfectly clear in his actions and the articles he has written that he views himself as a king and he is dictating what we will do or else. Its a shame what use to be as far as public relations compared to the way it is now.
Posted By: Clem

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/26/17 01:27 PM

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Can he put an end to the "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" activities?


Nothing new in politics, in any department or agency.
Posted By: top cat

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/26/17 02:03 PM

Maybe he'll get rid of the extra 10 days in north AL............
Posted By: eskimo270

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/26/17 03:09 PM


Originally Posted By: Clem
Quote:
Can he put an end to the "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" activities?


Nothing new in politics, in any department or agency.
he didn't have any fingernails when he left office because of all the backs he scratched
Posted By: Hogwild

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/27/17 10:20 AM

Looks like I either had bad info, or he backed out!

Deputy Commissioner Blankenship will serve as interim Commissioner.
Posted By: Clem

Re: ALDCNR Commissioner - 05/27/17 10:30 AM


Chris will do a good job in the interim.

Wheels are still turning, though ...
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