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300 win mag too much gun?

Posted By: tikkaman

300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 12:27 AM

Thinking of buying a Remington Sendero only offered in 300 Win Mag or 7 millimeter mag which would you go with?
Posted By: AU7MM08

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 12:29 AM

Because I have a 7MM08 and nothing in 30 caliber going with 7MM would make sense to me.

But I am not sure of what the circumstances are for you.
Posted By: hayman

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 12:32 AM

7mag long range because of bullet diversification but heck no it ain't too much. Both are great.
Posted By: rut_n_strut75

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 12:35 AM

7 mag
Posted By: mauvilla

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 12:52 AM

I've got both I prefer the 300 but that's just my opinion I've killed a pile of deer with the 7 mag up close they seem to run but 100 plus yards drops em , either or would work and these folks that think u use to much fun like trailing deer I like the ole bang flop
Posted By: hayman

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 12:56 AM

Bang flop x2!
Posted By: James

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 01:34 AM

Never have too much gun lol..I've actually became a 7mm fan (poor 300mag sits in the safe) about 10years ago. I now own a 7mag, 7mmstw, and a 7mm08. I do pull out my 308 warbird a few times and hunt with it . I normally kill a buck too! My buddy's think I'm crazy when they see me with that rifle lol..
Posted By: Stikman

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 02:31 AM

Originally Posted By: tikkaman
Thinking of buying a Remington Sendero only offered in 300 Win Mag or 7 millimeter mag which would you go with?

Remington offers the Sendero in multiple calibers
.300 Winchester Magnum also available in .264 Winchester Magnum, 7mm Remington Magnum, 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum and .300 Remington Ultra Magnum

264 Win Mag is one hell of a round!
Posted By: 1bamashooter

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 02:33 AM

You can get heavier bullets with the 300 but a 168gr Berger will kill one deader than Elvis.
Posted By: jlbuc10

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 05:51 AM

I never seen a deer too dead before
Posted By: sj22

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 07:02 AM

Not to much in my opinion, I shoot one and its not like it blows the deer I half, I do think it helps with marginal shots. Just my thoughts
Posted By: blumsden

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 07:14 AM

I shoot one and love it. When i bought it 17 years ago, it was the same price as a .243. I thought, i might one day be lucky enough to go hunt something bigger, so i bought it. Bang flop 99% of the time. I would recommend getting stainless steel, never have to worry about rust. 7mag is a fine weapon as well.
Posted By: riflenut

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 07:14 AM

Flip a coin
Posted By: Fishduck

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 07:42 AM

This is a personal question. Either caliber will kill deer effectively. Both are excellent at longer ranges and carry enough energy.

I will give you a confession from a reformed "use enough gun" believer. I once used 12 gauge 3 1/2" shells for duck and turkey. Used a 300 Rem Ultra Mag for deer. The heavy, fast loads killed everything quickly and cleanly. Only used these because they didn't make 4 1/2" 12 gauge shells and was too cheap to buy a .416 Rigby.

Killed deer, ducks and turkeys for years with these loads. Then one year I started missing. Spent hours looking for deer I knew I had killed. No way I could have missed but no hair, blood or anything but running tracks. Ducks flew in the decoys and left untouched.

When I sighted back in the problem became apparent. I was flinching. Nothing wrong with any of my guns. Shooting low and left with everything.

Rehab was simple. 3" 12 gauge loads work just as well. Bought some "chicken" (reduced recoil) loads for my 300 and shot bricks of .22. Deer now die again and ducks fold in the decoys.

If you want a new, big gun then go for it! But be mindful of flinching as you shoot.
Posted By: ChrisAU

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 07:47 AM

Overkill is underrated. I like the 338 Win Mag!
Posted By: JW

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 07:59 AM

If you're going to be sitting with a good rest, a Sendero will be fine. No way I'd get one if I had to carry it. I've owned a couple, but sold them cause they were heavy. As far as magnums go, if I had some long shots I'd consider one, but I'm way more accurate with other guns. This is coming from somebody who's been down that road.
Posted By: Bowhunter84

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 08:08 AM

I've killed a pile of deer with a 300 win mag...
Posted By: Geeb

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 08:10 AM


Originally Posted By: tikkaman
Thinking of buying a Remington Sendero only offered in 300 Win Mag or 7 millimeter mag which would you go with?


They are "offered" in other calibers, not sure if those are the only two you want or not. I have a .308 and it is a shooter. They made them in .223, .308, and 25-06 for sure; Also the calibers you mentioned and a few more just can't think of them right now.
Posted By: olemossy

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 08:20 AM

Love my 7 Mag
Posted By: Gobl4me

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 08:24 AM

.300 for me
Posted By: Karl9

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 08:25 AM

300 win would be my choice but either works. I have a Sendero in 300 Weatherby and love it. It is only 8.5 lbs so weight shouldn't be a big problem. I have taken mine on hike in Elk hunts (10 hours to camp) and it carries fine.
Posted By: SLAYER

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 08:35 AM

I have a 300 Ultra Mag and wouldn't get rid of it for anything... It's a tack driver and yes I take it on every hunt... Let the hating begin
Posted By: Possum Hunter

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 08:37 AM

Originally Posted By: 1bamashooter
You can get heavier bullets with the 300 but a 168gr Berger will kill one deader than Elvis.

X2

I have had my browning eclipse in a 300winmag about 4 years now... And haven't lost a deer with it... It doesn't kick much at all the bull barrel and the boss on it takes all the recoil out. And those 168gr Berger do exactly what they are suppose to everytime! It has took 4 deer this year and one bobcat... My 13 year old neighbor killed his first buck with it this year, to tell you how little the recoil is...
Posted By: Stripe

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 08:45 AM

7mm-08 best deer caliber for Alabama hands down.
Posted By: Ben2

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 09:05 AM

300 Weatherby Mag 180 gr here. I have killed probably 20 deer with it. 2 of them ran one made it about 20 yds one about 10 the other 18 or so drt.
Posted By: Clark8907

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 09:10 AM

I had a 300 win mag built and absolutely love it. Best shooting rifle I have ever had. Shoots flat enough for me. Any deer I have shot in the shoulder has died right there. If the 300 hits bone its devastating. Now I have had deer run with deer shot behind the shoulder. I shot federal trophy bonded tip in 180gr. Buy the 300 and never look back.
Posted By: 1bamashooter

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 09:11 AM

Savage actioned .338 Edge pushing a 300 gr OTM @2950 will also killem deader than Elvis.







Posted By: doekiller

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 09:12 AM

Personally, I like the 300 better. I've killed some deer with a 7mag. But, never liked the gun I had and got rid of it. Never regretted it. I know a lot of people that love the 7mag. Nothing wrong with it. 300 is just my preference of the two. 300 win or weatherby.
Posted By: Austin_243

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 09:45 AM

i have a Weatherby .300 Weatherby Mag and my buddy has a Weatherby .300 Winchester Short mag and as far as 7mm i dont like 7mm cal. I like .243 for small caliber if you want power with a small caliber get a weatherby magnum in 257 or 6.5-300
Posted By: Clark8907

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 09:52 AM


Originally Posted By: 1bamashooter
Savage actioned .338 Edge pushing a 300 gr OTM @2950 will also killem deader than Elvis.









Nice gun...but why and the hell would you want to carry that to a deer stand...lol?
Posted By: olemossy

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 10:02 AM

Depends on bullet weight you desire. For 140-165 I would go 7 Mag, not hardly a difference between the two calibers on those weight bullets. Now if you go up to 180 it would be the 300 Win Mag. JMO
Posted By: 257wbymag

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 10:21 AM

I like my Sendero in 7mmstw!
Posted By: Shotts

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 10:22 AM

I bought a 300 Win. Bar a long time ago when I was younger and use to walk a ton of cutover to jump and kill deer. The 300 was great for that as the marginal shots tended to still anchor the deer to be finished with a quick follow up. I now shoot a 7mm Accumark, as I no longer walk cutover. The 7mm is plenty gun for deer and the occasional elk trip.

I have been shooting 175 gr Hornady spire points for both (deer and elk), but will swap back to 150 grain partitions next year for deer as the new club I am in has some really long power line green fields.

Having owned, shot, and killed a truck load of deer with both I like the 7mm better.
Posted By: ALarcher

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 10:42 AM

I've never trailed a deer I shot with my Steyr 300WM. Including a 200+ pounder at 441yds and two 120+ pound does at over 350yds. My dad shoots a 7mm and we've trailed several deer. Probably has as much to do with shot placement as anything.

300 wm tends to a be a little more stable bullet at LONG range as well (with the right round). Been shooting 6" groups at 500 yds with a 180gr Accubond. Gotta get the right bullet for your gun though.

I'd go 300. You can kill anything with it and it doesn't ruin deer meat like some people say it does and I don't like trailing deer.
Posted By: BrentM

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 10:48 AM


Originally Posted By: Shotts


I have been shooting 175 gr Hornady spire points for both (deer and elk), but will swap back to 150 grain partitions next year for deer as the new club I am in has some really long power line green fields.

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Wouldn't the 175 gr spire point be a lot better bullet for super long shots than a 150 gr partition?
Posted By: eskimo270

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 10:56 AM

Only for squirrels
Posted By: Delmer

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 11:02 AM

You mean to tell me you think Elvis is dead. 300win in my opinion..but im a little partial!
Posted By: Shotts

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted By: BrentM

Originally Posted By: Shotts


I have been shooting 175 gr Hornady spire points for both (deer and elk), but will swap back to 150 grain partitions next year for deer as the new club I am in has some really long power line green fields.

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Wouldn't the 175 gr spire point be a lot better bullet for super long shots than a 150 gr partition?


I guess ultimately it depends on the range and desired goal, at 400 yards the 150 grain has 5 inches less drop than the 175 grain load I am using.

I was also planning to switch back to the 150 gr for better expansion at extended ranges that and the rifle really likes that round will shoot honest 5/8 groups at 100 yards.

I bought 4-5 boxes of the 175gr Hornady badged stuff on clearance at Marks for $25/box which is a steal for 7mm Weatherby. I am now down to 2 boxes so will switch back to 150gr and use the 175 grain for elk hunts every other year.
Posted By: BigUncleLeroy

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 11:27 AM

I'm a .30 cal fanatic, have the .300 win, weatherby, and wsm. So much versatility, you can scale down to 150 grain and shoot screamers, or bulk up to 180 or 200 and throw hammers.
Posted By: CNC

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 11:39 AM

I'd get the gun I felt the most comfortable shooting. The most important thing is where you hit the deer.
Posted By: jbatey1

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 11:40 AM

300 for me.
Posted By: mw2015

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 11:48 AM

Not too much gun. Matter of personal choice. I looked at both and went with a Mark V 7mm Weatherby magnum with a muzzle brake and Leupold 4x12 vx2. I like it combined with the Weatherby ammunition but it is expensive. It will drop some deer. I figured if I ever needed more gun than a 7 mag, it would give me an excuse to buy another Mark V in 340 Weatherby or 375 H&H. If you don't plan on buying another rifle get the 300.
Posted By: Strutter

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 01:20 PM

I shoot a 300 when horn hunting with 210 Berger VLDs. I do not shoot this round during the herd thinning process. The VLDs do a lot of damage regardless of where you put the round.
Posted By: ikillbux

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 01:50 PM

What's the difference in a 300 and a 30-06?
Posted By: Strutter

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 01:56 PM

More powder!
Posted By: BrentM

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 02:08 PM


Originally Posted By: ikillbux
What's the difference in a 300 and a 30-06?


A little bit of velocity and a whole lot of powder, barrel length, and recoil.
(Unless you're using super long high BC bullets made to shoot grizzly bears )
Posted By: jdhunter2011

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 02:22 PM

Im a savage guy and I have one in a 300 win mag. I hunted with it more this year than normal. Im usually carrying it in .270. I will warn you though, savage with a synthetic stock in 300 will knock the living piss out of you. It kicks like a pissed off fair mule. I had to put a 1 piece DMV mount on it this summer because the scope wouldnt stay zeroed due to the recoil. 6 rounds to get it dialed back in and I didnt want no more!
Posted By: blumsden

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 02:28 PM

Originally Posted By: jdhunter2011
Im a savage guy and I have one in a 300 win mag. I hunted with it more this year than normal. Im usually carrying it in .270. I will warn you though, savage with a synthetic stock in 300 will knock the living piss out of you. It kicks like a pissed off fair mule. I had to put a 1 piece DMV mount on it this summer because the scope wouldnt stay zeroed due to the recoil. 6 rounds to get it dialed back in and I didnt want no more!

I have a savage weather warrior in 300 win mag and i never feel it kick, shooting at an animal. I don't target practice with it. Its the only gun i deer hunt with and can drive tacks with it. I have a leopold mount and varix-111 scope and haven't had to adjust the scope since i dialed it in 17 years ago. You might want to buy a better mount and rings, make sure they loctite them as well. I actually dropped this gun 8' and it landed on the scope and its still dead on.
Posted By: ChrisAU

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 02:33 PM

My 338 WM is also a Savage 116 weather warrior, but I swapped the snythetic stock for a heavier walnut stock from a 114 and also put on a limbsaver recoil pad and have not noticed anything different while hunting vs any other rifle I've ever shot at a critter. Sound though? Yeah its a little loud...
Posted By: Remington270

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 03:08 PM

I wouldn't shoot a 300mag without ear muffs, that's for sure.
Posted By: 87dixieboy

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 06:35 PM

They are both a wash. 300wm will have more energy down range and a harder kick. The 7mm will have less recoil and has the best range of bullets with the higher BC. That being said I have the 300 sendero, love the gun, though I never shoot it anymore. Actually may sell it soon
Posted By: frezznh2o

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 06:45 PM

My savage started life as a 7 mag but I screwed that junk off and put a magnum contour 300 WM barrel on it. I like 165 gn partitions for deer but 180's and a 300 go together like peas and carrots
Posted By: gbee

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 07:27 PM

.300 Win Mag loaded with 168 gr. Berger VLDs are bad news on deer.
Posted By: joshm28

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 09:22 PM

Originally Posted By: gbee
.300 Win Mag loaded with 168 gr. Berger VLDs are bad news on deer.


That's what me and a buddy are both shooting. He's pushing his at close to 3200 and it makes one heck of an exit wound.
Posted By: dave260rem!

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 10:18 PM

Magnums normally are .532 case diameter standard aught six family is .473. 300 or 7mag? both work.
Posted By: R_H_Clark

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/27/16 11:43 PM

If you are carrying it a little ways to a stand and shooting long distance,go for it, otherwise it's too much gun.
Posted By: Frankie

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 01/28/16 12:09 AM

i agree , no such thing as over kill . if you can handle the kick , go with the 300 . i like the 7mag better though . i hunted with a Ruger and a Rem 7mag for a long time till i started hunting out of pop-up blinds now i'm loving a h&r single shot 35 whelen .

i done some shooting with a browning 300 and felt like it kicked less than the ruger 7mag i have .
Posted By: wew3006

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 02/01/16 11:43 AM

PM sent on Sendero available
Posted By: Big Game Hunter

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 02/01/16 12:26 PM

There's only one degree of dead.

The .300 mag family and the 7mm mag family are both good rounds for all around hunting but by no means do our easy to kill, soft whitetail deer here in the south require that much bullet/velocity.

If you want a .300 mag or a 7mm mag by all means buy one. That being said, most issues I've dealt with over the years with hunters using these magnum calibers is they can't shoot the gun properly due to flinching from recoil. Or, just as common is the mentality that "I can hit him in the foot and kill him" is a bigger issue. You still must have proper bullet placement regardless of caliber.

Some folks decide to go with a muzzle break on these magnums and IMO that causes even more issues. You flinch from the muzzle blast, not the recoil.

Good luck either way.
Posted By: 40Bucks

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 02/01/16 02:42 PM

I like the 300 with 165 gr Hornadys. Lotta thump with not too much recoil. Ben2's 180 gr are killas too.
Posted By: wew3006

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 02/01/16 03:30 PM

If you are shooting something like a Sendero; recoil is not a big deal in 300WM.
Posted By: Kounse

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 03/21/16 03:22 PM

I shoot in the shoulder and it breaks'em down!
Posted By: deerman24

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 03/21/16 05:00 PM

I huntd with 7mag for years, I bought a browning 300 and just love it. I really don't see much difference in what it does to deer when shot. Doesn't mess them up any more. There isn't much difference except for the velocity. The bullet part is about the same size, just powder casing larger.
Posted By: Cuz-Pat

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 03/21/16 06:39 PM

Originally Posted By: tikkaman
Thinking of buying a Remington Sendero only offered in 300 Win Mag or 7 millimeter mag which would you go with?


Not trying to argue with you at all but you are wrong on the Sendero being offered in only 300 win mag & 7 MM mag.

It is offered in 5 different calibers.

http://www.remington.com/rifles/bolt-action/model-700/model-700-sendero-sf-ii

I own one of them in .300 RUM and it would be my first choice of the 5 calibers available if I were buying one today. thumbup
Posted By: Reloader79

Re: 300 win mag too much gun? - 03/27/16 08:11 PM

Originally Posted By: 87dixieboy
They are both a wash. 300wm will have more energy down range and a harder kick. The 7mm will have less recoil and has the best range of bullets with the higher BC. That being said I have the 300 sendero, love the gun, though I never shoot it anymore. Actually may sell it soon


x2, but both will perform, I have both.
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