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Re: Bible Question [Re: Butchman205] #4129925
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Originally Posted by Butchman205
Psalm 34:18
The Lord is near to the brokenhearted and saves the crushed in spirit.

I had heard this verse many times before my son died, but now I’m living it.
When I was a kid, I never imagined I would be “good enough” to see an honest to goodness miracle. I’m still not. But since my son died, I’ll be a broken piece of what I was for the rest of my life. THE COMFORTER is very real. Jesus promised the Holy Spirit would come back when Jesus left to go to back to Heaven.

I’ve never seen the Holy Spirit, nor have I ever seen the wind…but the leaves blowing around then the wind feeling on my face tells me it’s there. And the Holy Spirit working around me proves He’s here. Last week when I was traveling for work, I met a kid at a Subway that reminded me of my boy a bunch. The kid (in his twenties I guess), had a shirt on that said something like “Treat folks like you want to be treated”. Long story short I offered to buy his lunch because he reminded me very much of someone that is gone to heaven…that I seriously wish I could buy a lunch for sometime…and no I’m not a freakin perv.

The kid looked me up on Facebook, and asked me why I spoke to him. Told him I thought I was supposed to. In James 4:17 says: Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
I told the kid I felt like I was supposed to, or just wanted to buy him a lunch because he reminded of my son that isn’t here anymore…and just happened to be there that day at that time.

He said he had asked God the night before, if there was a reason for him to keep on living…to please show him.
Then an old guy bought his m a sandwich the next day, that sadly knows something about folks not thinking they were what they needed to be or was “supposed” to be.

I’m just glad I got yo be the guy that encouraged him. That’s what a miracle looks like to me. The kid thanked me for buying him a meal, but I told him I got waaaaay more out of it than he did.

Romans 8-28. God works EVERY THING for good for them that love him and who are called according to his purpose! Powerful testimony, thanks for sharing it!


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Re: Bible Question [Re: kyles] #4129929
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Re: Bible Question [Re: 2Dogs] #4130005
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by kyles
2 dogs you are correct I was just trying to pen him down on repentance. Some on here believe that repentance added works which made you trust in your works. Don’t cotton to much to that. But then I have never received a yes or no answer


The answer may be found here.

https://www.jasonsbibleblog.com/2023/10/28/did-christ-do-all-the-work-on-the-cross/



Acts 2:38-41 along with every single other conversion account in Acts.
All the work done in baptism is done by God. It is His work accomplished through water as the means. For us, it's a complete recognition of our hopelessness and surrender to the One who is able to save; the embodiment of faith. This is supposed to be a point of unity, but unfortunately it has become a point of serious division.


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Re: Bible Question [Re: kyles] #4130027
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Originally Posted by kyles
2 dogs you are correct I was just trying to pen him down on repentance. Some on here believe that repentance added works which made you trust in your works. Don’t cotton to much to that. But then I have never received a yes or no answer


I don’t think I believe what you think I believe. Biblically speaking, people generally received blessings from God when they obeyed his conditions to receive said blessings. Noah receive God’s deliverance from the flood when he obeyed God and built an ark. The COI were cured of their snake bites when they obeyed God’s prescription for healing. Naaman received God’s blessings when he obeyed Elisha’s (God’s) command. Obedience is a form of “works”. Jesus claimed that faith (belief) is a work originating from God (John 5:28-29) and Hebrews 11:6 says we must posses faith in order to please God. In the religious world today, “works” is another topic that is grossly misrepresented and very often misunderstood.

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Thank you for that answer you seem to know the scriptures and I am sorry for all the questions. If you have followed these forums much they usually go sideways in a hurry lol.People pull one verse out sometimes and try to make it mean what they want it to. Deuteronomy 28; 1-14 God tells Israel of all the promises that are theirs . But the conditions are if you will obey, people pull Gods promises out of the Bible but they forget their obligations. I in know way mean that about you. I dont come across very well and I have trouble putting my thoughts into the proper words

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Originally Posted by kyles
Thank you for that answer you seem to know the scriptures and I am sorry for all the questions. If you have followed these forums much they usually go sideways in a hurry lol.People pull one verse out sometimes and try to make it mean what they want it to. Deuteronomy 28; 1-14 God tells Israel of all the promises that are theirs . But the conditions are if you will obey, people pull Gods promises out of the Bible but they forget their obligations. I in know way mean that about you. I dont come across very well and I have trouble putting my thoughts into the proper words


Some twist the Bible to meet their needs when they should change their needs to meet the Bible. A lot of Conservatives will argue the US Constitution was not written to change with the times , but want to change and twist what the Bible says to the times.



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Re: Bible Question [Re: Bamarich2] #4130376
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Originally Posted by Bamarich2
Originally Posted by jwalker77
Bamarich2, if you think God has ceased to do miracles, i pray you some day get to know the God i know.


I have repeatedly said the Holy Spirit still does miraculous things through people's hands. What I've said is that He doesn't do them the SAME WAY they were done in the early church times. There is no one on the face of this earth today that can pray/command someone to be raised from the dead... no one that has a body/clothes that can be touched and be made well... command someone to die immediately. It's not that I'm a skeptic... those things simply don't happen today. God, however, DOES continue to work marvels through people - the work of doctors are a good example of that. You need to stop claiming I'm saying something I'm not.

Originally Posted by jwalker77
What day was it the Spirit quit working here on earth? Did it happen all at once or was it gradual? Where is this in the bible. I assume i know the answer. I assume its something some guy decided after the last page of the bible was written. I assume its some guys interpretation of a few verses that builds a nice box for God to live in that he is now comfortable with. If im wrong, i would sure like to know it. You could not answer or provide scripture to prove what you say.


See post #419204 on page 2 of this thread. I indeed DID provide Scripture to answer this question. Just because you do not agree with the answer doesn't mean I didn't answer it. Read the post again.

Originally Posted by jwalker77
Then i wrote this responding to several of the scriptures you quoted that can be interpreted different ways. But if you are saying these things do not happen any more, i would like to know when they stopped. I say they are still happening. Miracles are still happening, tongues is still happening, prophesying is still happening. Maybe not to you ar at your cgurch but it is still happening and you dont have to go far to find it. It's been talked about quite a bit here.


I find it interesting that you accuse me of basing my opinions on what other people say, YET you base some of your opinion on what others write (it's been talked about quite a bit). If you can use comments of others in your argument, why do you attack me for doing the same???

Originally Posted by jwalker77
And prophesying and spiritual testamony is pretty much the same thing.


Incorrect... prophesy is MUCH different than spiritual testimony. 2 Peter 1:20–21 says "knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone’s own interpretation. For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit" (ESV). Prophecy originates with God - it's HIS word. Spiritual testimony is telling people what God has done in our life - it's OUR word. Huge difference there.

Originally Posted by jwalker77
I also know what ive seen and experienced. Ive prayed God would give me knowledge and understanding and he has. I prayed that God heal me, and he did. I begged the Lord to not let my friend die a few weeks ago and i watched life enter back into him. I don't think he will reveal himself in that way if somebody has more faith in some dude who wrote a book than they have in God.


The bible tells us that trusting human experience is not dependable, but God's word is (Proverbs 28:26 (ESV) - "Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom will be delivered"). Paul exalted the word of God in Acts 20:32 - saying it would lead people to an inheritance. He also claimed that what He taught was not his own instruction, but that of God (1 Thessalonians 2:13). Paul was an apostle of Jesus Christ who wrote epistles inspired by the Holy Spirit - I'll take his word in an epistle over anyone telling me something different today.

Originally Posted by jwalker77
(3) building a god that satisfies me....That wasnt even about you, thats what the guy did who youre listening to, you took that oit of context.(4) acting superior....also out of context, i was talking about the guy youre listening to (5) again out of context, i was comparing the guy youre listening to to a saved person who knows the Lord, is filled with the Spirit and has the Spirit working in and through them which that other guy obviously does not hve because he believes that stopped nearly 2000 years ago.


Somehow you think that I'm "listening to someone" because I believe the way I do. And... if I were to be doing that, somehow that's inferior or unacceptable. Paul told Timothy in 2 Timothy 2:2 "what you have heard from me in the presence of many witnesses entrust to faithful men, who will be able to teach others also" (ESV). Was Timothy's reasoning in a discussion with someone "less" because he'd heard what he presented from Paul??? What about the faithful men who were taught by Timothy... were their points of view to be discredited because they "received them from Timothy"??? What about the people taught by the "faithful men"??? Whenever I look at a biblical subject, I try to view all possible angles to that topic. Since I'm one person with a limited view, I pray for understanding/discernment and study God's word and materials on the topic. I then come to a conclusion about that particular subject. I'm not "listening to anyone"... but even if I did that doesn't mean it's the worst thing in the world.

Originally Posted by jwalker77
And by the way, when a saved person says repeatedly they will pray you recieve more of the Lord and his goodness, that is not an attack. It's another human being wanting bad for you to have more.


I've had people curse me out and then tell me at the end of the conversation "have a good day". Were they truly wishing me well because they included that statement? If you don't understand that the language you use in discussions like this is attacking other people, then I highly suggest you seek some feedback on your posts from some unbiased people you don't know. 2 Timothy 2:24ff says we must be kind to everyone and correct opponents with gentleness.


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Re: Bible Question [Re: Bamarich2] #4130398
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Originally Posted by Bamarich2
Originally Posted by jwalker77
Bamarich2, if you think God has ceased to do miracles, i pray you some day get to know the God i know.


I have repeatedly said the Holy Spirit still does miraculous things through people's hands. What I've said is that He doesn't do them the SAME WAY they were done in the early church times. There is no one on the face of this earth today that can pray/command someone to be raised from the dead... no one that has a body/clothes that can be touched and be made well... command someone to die immediately. It's not that I'm a skeptic... those things simply don't happen today. God, however, DOES continue to work marvels through people - the work of doctors are a good example of that. You need to stop claiming I'm saying something I'm not.

Originally Posted by jwalker77
What day was it the Spirit quit working here on earth? Did it happen all at once or was it gradual? Where is this in the bible. I assume i know the answer. I assume its something some guy decided after the last page of the bible was written. I assume its some guys interpretation of a few verses that builds a nice box for God to live in that he is now comfortable with. If im wrong, i would sure like to know it. You could not answer or provide scripture to prove what you say.


See post #419204 on page 2 of this thread. I indeed DID provide Scripture to answer this question. Just because you do not agree with the answer doesn't mean I didn't answer it. Read the post again.

Originally Posted by jwalker77
Then i wrote this responding to several of the scriptures you quoted that can be interpreted different ways. But if you are saying these things do not happen any more, i would like to know when they stopped. I say they are still happening. Miracles are still happening, tongues is still happening, prophesying is still happening. Maybe not to you ar at your cgurch but it is still happening and you dont have to go far to find it. It's been talked about quite a bit here.


I find it interesting that you accuse me of basing my opinions on what other people say, YET you base some of your opinion on what others write (it's been talked about quite a bit). If you can use comments of others in your argument, why do you attack me for doing the same???

Originally Posted by jwalker77
And prophesying and spiritual testamony is pretty much the same thing.


Incorrect... prophesy is MUCH different than spiritual testimony. 2 Peter 1:20–21 says "knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone’s own interpretation. For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit" (ESV). Prophecy originates with God - it's HIS word. Spiritual testimony is telling people what God has done in our life - it's OUR word. Huge difference there.

Originally Posted by jwalker77
I also know what ive seen and experienced. Ive prayed God would give me knowledge and understanding and he has. I prayed that God heal me, and he did. I begged the Lord to not let my friend die a few weeks ago and i watched life enter back into him. I don't think he will reveal himself in that way if somebody has more faith in some dude who wrote a book than they have in God.


The bible tells us that trusting human experience is not dependable, but God's word is (Proverbs 28:26 (ESV) - "Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom will be delivered"). Paul exalted the word of God in Acts 20:32 - saying it would lead people to an inheritance. He also claimed that what He taught was not his own instruction, but that of God (1 Thessalonians 2:13). Paul was an apostle of Jesus Christ who wrote epistles inspired by the Holy Spirit - I'll take his word in an epistle over anyone telling me something different today.

Originally Posted by jwalker77
(3) building a god that satisfies me....That wasnt even about you, thats what the guy did who youre listening to, you took that oit of context.(4) acting superior....also out of context, i was talking about the guy youre listening to (5) again out of context, i was comparing the guy youre listening to to a saved person who knows the Lord, is filled with the Spirit and has the Spirit working in and through them which that other guy obviously does not hve because he believes that stopped nearly 2000 years ago.


Somehow you think that I'm "listening to someone" because I believe the way I do. And... if I were to be doing that, somehow that's inferior or unacceptable. Paul told Timothy in 2 Timothy 2:2 "what you have heard from me in the presence of many witnesses entrust to faithful men, who will be able to teach others also" (ESV). Was Timothy's reasoning in a discussion with someone "less" because he'd heard what he presented from Paul??? What about the faithful men who were taught by Timothy... were their points of view to be discredited because they "received them from Timothy"??? What about the people taught by the "faithful men"??? Whenever I look at a biblical subject, I try to view all possible angles to that topic. Since I'm one person with a limited view, I pray for understanding/discernment and study God's word and materials on the topic. I then come to a conclusion about that particular subject. I'm not "listening to anyone"... but even if I did that doesn't mean it's the worst thing in the world.

Originally Posted by jwalker77
And by the way, when a saved person says repeatedly they will pray you recieve more of the Lord and his goodness, that is not an attack. It's another human being wanting bad for you to have more.


I've had people curse me out and then tell me at the end of the conversation "have a good day". Were they truly wishing me well because they included that statement? If you don't understand that the language you use in discussions like this is attacking other people, then I highly suggest you seek some feedback on your posts from some unbiased people you don't know. 2 Timothy 2:24ff says we must be kind to everyone and correct opponents with gentleness.

You have talked to me just like ive talked to you, but somehow im attacking you. But you also told lies and took things out of context so you could act as if i said bad things about you. But first you made a statement that i disagreed with then you changed your statement and started quoting scripture to prove something else. All this started because you said in your first post that God at one time used the spirit to do miraculous things through men but he no longer does. You said that, its in your first post. That is exactly the thing you said that i responded to. Then you changed your mind and said well he still does but it dont look like it once did. All the scripture you quoted is good stuff, i love it. So i guess now ill say i feel attacked, by Bill too. Matter of fact the conversation i had with Bill a while back was almost just like that. I could see how he would agree with you. Yall are both kinda the pot calling the kettle black. And read back over my speaking directly to you and him, then look at how yall both talked to me. Show me where yall ever tried to make it right, where you apologised, any good wishes for me? Nope, you were both pretty hateful and then said i was the bad guy because i had disagreed with you. And i did disagree with you. I responded to something you said, same with Bill. But both of yall said i couldnt handle it when someone dsagrees with me. I disagreed with you, thats how all this started, go back and check it out. I never belittled you or attacked you. Maybe you felt attacked, i sure hate that but i know what was in my heart. And during my talking with you and Bill, i did have feedback, someone messaged me and said Bill thinks he knows everything and someone messaged me and pretty much said you just were not able to understand what i was talking about. So i have got some feedback. Yall probably got messages from.people saying im a lunatic who thinks he knows God. What does all that prove? Good day sir.

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I don't know what's wrong with you that you feel the need to gaslight anyone that has a different opinion than you but I don't have a single reply in this thread other than giving a thumbs up to his point by point reply to your assertions. I thought he did a good job addressing your accusations with a thorough and detailed reply. I hope whatever is causing you to lash out at every chance gets better for you soon but I'm definitely not going to argue back and forth with you when it appears you enjoy it so much.


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Originally Posted by bill
I don't know what's wrong with you that you feel the need to gaslight anyone that has a different opinion than you but I don't have a single reply in this thread other than giving a thumbs up to his point by point reply to your assertions. I thought he did a good job addressing your accusations with a thorough and detailed reply. I hope whatever is causing you to lash out at every chance gets better for you soon but I'm definitely not going to argue back and forth with you when it appears you enjoy it so much.

He did almost exactly what you did when i disagreed with you. I imagine yu do think he did a good job. What he did was change what he first said. You went off into all manner of other things and never did provide any biblical proof for what you said. And none of the scripture he posted ever proved God no longer uses the spirit through men to do miraculous things, which is what i disagreed with. But he changed that and said he never said that. Its in his first post on this thread. Its still there now. Go back and read it. Then read later where he said he never said that. Youre right, thumbs up, great job.

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Originally Posted by jwalker77
What he did was change what he first said. You went off into all manner of other things and never did provide any biblical proof for what you said. And none of the scripture he posted ever proved God no longer uses the spirit through men to do miraculous things, which is what i disagreed with. But he changed that and said he never said that. Its in his first post on this thread. Its still there now. Go back and read it. Then read later where he said he never said that. Youre right, thumbs up, great job.


Originally Posted by Bamarich2
First, there's the time when miraculous things were done by power given through the apostle's hands. Second, there's the time when God ceased working through those means (the time we're living in today).


JWalker... this is the post you continue to refer to. Notice I said "God CEASED working through those means". "Those means" refer back to "power given through the apostle's hands". God doesn't work through power given to people through an apostle's hands any longer. I could cite it, but the last paragraph of that initial post fully explains it further. I've not "changed my story" as you repeatedly accuse me of doing.

Originally Posted by jwalker77
Bamarich2, if you think God has ceased to do miracles, i pray you some day get to know the God i know. I pray you start trusting God. I pray you stop listening to the men who have convinced you God is not able to do all he can do. I pray you develop a real working relationship with God through the Holy Spirit that is available to every human on earth today in 2024. I really do wish you the best. I pray you find all the Lord has to offer you and learn how to walk in it.


You accused me of "not knowing God", "not trusting God", "blindly listening to other men who turn me against God", and not having a "real working relationship with God".

Originally Posted by jwalker77
I do have a question about this theory. What day was it the Spirit quit working here on earth? Did it happen all at once or was it gradual? Where is this in the bible. I assume i know the answer. I assume its something some guy decided after the last page of the bible was written. I assume its some guys interpretation of a few verses that builds a nice box for God to live in that he is now comfortable with. If im wrong, i would sure like to know it.


In your last four sentences except for the final one, you accuse me of accepting something totally unbiblical. You imply I'm accepting something blindly from someone else.

Originally Posted by jwalker77
You have talked to me just like ive talked to you, but somehow im attacking you. But you also told lies and took things out of context so you could act as if i said bad things about you. But first you made a statement that i disagreed with then you changed your statement and started quoting scripture to prove something else. All this started because you said in your first post that God at one time used the spirit to do miraculous things through men but he no longer does. You said that, it's in your first post. That is exactly the thing you said that i responded to. Then you changed your mind and said well he still does but it dont look like it once did. All the scripture you quoted is good stuff, i love it. So i guess now I'll say i feel attacked, by Bill too. Matter of fact the conversation i had with Bill a while back was almost just like that. I could see how he would agree with you. Yall are both kinda the pot calling the kettle black. And read back over my speaking directly to you and him, then look at how yall both talked to me. Show me where yall ever tried to make it right, where you apologised, any good wishes for me? Nope, you were both pretty hateful and then said i was the bad guy because i had disagreed with you. And i did disagree with you. I responded to something you said, same with Bill. But both of yall said i couldnt handle it when someone dsagrees with me. I disagreed with you, thats how all this started, go back and check it out. I never belittled you or attacked you. Maybe you felt attacked, i sure hate that but i know what was in my heart. And during my talking with you and Bill, i did have feedback, someone messaged me and said Bill thinks he knows everything and someone messaged me and pretty much said you just were not able to understand what i was talking about. So i have got some feedback. Yall probably got messages from.people saying im a lunatic who thinks he knows God. What does all that prove? Good day sir.


Respectfully, no sir... I haven't talked to you the way you've talked to me. I haven't accused you once of not knowing God, not having a relationship with Him, or not trusting God. I haven't accused you of blindly listening to someone else without doing your own study, never called you a "bad guy", not been "hateful" in disagreeing, and I never have said "you can't handle it when someone disagrees with you". If I've used any language to "attack you", I'm sincerely sorry. I've tried to keep our discussion on a "topic only level" - I've tried to keep any personal remarks about your sincerity, level of faith, etc. out of it.

A prominent method of the world today is to not only attack someone's message, but also attack and/or belittle the messenger. It hinders constructive spiritual discussions and it places barriers between individuals that will never allow for healthy exchange of ideas. There's a saying that goes "we can disagree without becoming disagreeable"... and that's the way all Christians should seek to behave in any discussions.

Re: Bible Question [Re: 2Dogs] #4133229
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by kyles
Thank you for that answer you seem to know the scriptures and I am sorry for all the questions. If you have followed these forums much they usually go sideways in a hurry lol.People pull one verse out sometimes and try to make it mean what they want it to. Deuteronomy 28; 1-14 God tells Israel of all the promises that are theirs . But the conditions are if you will obey, people pull Gods promises out of the Bible but they forget their obligations. I in know way mean that about you. I dont come across very well and I have trouble putting my thoughts into the proper words


Some twist the Bible to meet their needs when they should change their needs to meet the Bible. A lot of Conservatives will argue the US Constitution was not written to change with the times , but want to change and twist what the Bible says to the times.


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Re: Bible Question [Re: bill] #4133231
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Originally Posted by bill
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by kyles
Thank you for that answer you seem to know the scriptures and I am sorry for all the questions. If you have followed these forums much they usually go sideways in a hurry lol.People pull one verse out sometimes and try to make it mean what they want it to. Deuteronomy 28; 1-14 God tells Israel of all the promises that are theirs . But the conditions are if you will obey, people pull Gods promises out of the Bible but they forget their obligations. I in know way mean that about you. I dont come across very well and I have trouble putting my thoughts into the proper words


Some twist the Bible to meet their needs when they should change their needs to meet the Bible. A lot of Conservatives will argue the US Constitution was not written to change with the times , but want to change and twist what the Bible says to the times.


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Re: Bible Question [Re: kyles] #4133249
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